US Politics Mega-thread - Page 7628

On May 25 2017 03:28 Plansix wrote:
The real question is, where is the US not collecting taxes that the UK/EU are?

On May 25 2017 04:22 biology]major wrote:
Ofcourse it's starting, the republicans have a chance and they are going to blow it. Trump isn't helping either, and in a few years the majority will be lost and hopefully we can prevent the US from going full socialist when that happens.

On May 25 2017 04:26 Nebuchad wrote:


None of the progressive candidates that are fielded are full socialist, so that should help in preventing that. Hopefully you move left enough to restore balance and have berniecrat vs democrat as the main fight of american politics, as it should be.

On May 25 2017 04:19 Nebuchad wrote:
Pellegrino won in Long Island, Ossoff is ahead in Georgia, Quist is announced as close in Montana for tomorrow.

I think it's starting.

On May 25 2017 04:30 TheDwf wrote:

Well, this is probably what they call "full socialism".

A widely held tenet of the current conventional wisdom is that while President Trump might not be popular overall, he has a high floor on his support. Trump’s sizable and enthusiastic base — perhaps 35 to 40 percent of the country — won’t abandon him any time soon, the theory goes, and they don’t necessarily care about some of the controversies that the “mainstream media” treats as game-changing developments.

It’s an entirely reasonable theory. We live in a highly partisan epoch, and voters are usually loyal to politicians from their party. Trump endured a lot of turbulence in the general election but stuck it out to win the Electoral College. The media doesn’t always guess right about which stories will resonate with voters.

But the theory isn’t supported by the evidence. To the contrary, Trump’s base seems to be eroding. There’s been a considerable decline in the number of Americans who strongly approve of Trump, from a peak of around 30 percent in February to just 21 or 22 percent of the electorate now. (The decline in Trump’s strong approval ratings is larger than the overall decline in his approval ratings, in fact.) Far from having unconditional love from his base, Trump has already lost almost a third of his strong support. And voters who strongly disapprove of Trump outnumber those who strongly approve of him by about a 2-to-1 ratio, which could presage an “enthusiasm gap” that works against Trump at the midterms. The data suggests, in particular, that the GOP’s initial attempt (and failure) in March to pass its unpopular health care bill may have cost Trump with his core supporters.
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So while there’s risk to Democrats in underestimating Trump’s resiliency, there’s an equal or perhaps greater risk to Republicans in thinking Trump’s immune from political gravity.

If you look beneath the surface of Trump’s approval ratings, you find not hidden strength but greater weakness than the topline numbers imply.

On May 25 2017 04:26 Nebuchad wrote:


None of the progressive candidates that are fielded are full socialist, so that should help in preventing that. Hopefully you move left enough to restore balance and have berniecrat vs democrat as the main fight of american politics, as it should be.

Also, you say of course it's starting, but the blowback to Trump could have taken many forms, it could have just been any random democrat elected instead of any random republican. When I say it's starting, I mean socdem.

On May 25 2017 04:30 TheDwf wrote:

Well, this is probably what they call "full socialism".

On May 25 2017 05:12 biology]major wrote:
I wish we had polling of how these bombings are viewed by musims in the UK, and specifically by location where there are isolated clusters of refugees. From what I'm reading, there is a strong sympathetic reaction to the most recent bombing in the libyan refugee community specifically.

On May 25 2017 05:12 biology]major wrote:
I wish we had polling of how these bombings are viewed by musims in the UK, and specifically by location where there are isolated clusters of refugees. From what I'm reading, there is a strong sympathetic reaction to the most recent bombing in the libyan refugee community specifically.

On May 25 2017 06:12 Mohdoo wrote:


The GOP needs old people. Why would they do this? I don't think the GOP is actually as stupid as this makes them look. I want to understand!!