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Karis Vas Ryaar
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United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 02:51:10
May 18 2017 02:50 GMT
#151381
yep this is fun


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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 18 2017 02:50 GMT
#151382
On May 18 2017 11:47 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 11:46 Plansix wrote:
That subscription to the NYT is money well spent.

I sure wish I had one right now, the paywall is super annoying.

The Amazon subscription is pretty cheap and it is what I use for my kindle. I just pay per paper for the WSJ.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 18 2017 02:52 GMT
#151383
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 18 2017 02:55 GMT
#151384
Don't worry guys, this is all liberal media hysteria. Benghazi, though - now THAT was a scandal. People LIED!
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 18 2017 02:56 GMT
#151385
WASHINGTON — Michael T. Flynn told President Trump’s transition team weeks before the inauguration that he was under federal investigation for secretly working as a paid lobbyist for Turkey during the campaign, according to two people familiar with the case.

Despite this warning, which came about a month after the Justice Department notified Mr. Flynn of the inquiry, Mr. Trump made Mr. Flynn his national security adviser. The job gave Mr. Flynn access to the president and nearly every secret held by American intelligence agencies.

Mr. Flynn’s disclosure, on Jan. 4, was first made to the transition team’s chief lawyer, Donald F. McGahn II, who is now the White House counsel. That conversation, and another one two days later between Mr. Flynn’s lawyer and transition lawyers, shows that the Trump team knew about the investigation of Mr. Flynn far earlier than has been previously reported.

His legal issues have been a problem for the White House from the beginning and are at the center of a growing political crisis for Mr. Trump. Mr. Flynn, who was fired after 24 days in the job, was initially kept on even after the acting attorney general, Sally Q. Yates, warned the White House that he might be subject to blackmail by the Russians for misleading Vice President Mike Pence about the nature of conversations he had with the Russian ambassador to Washington.

After Mr. Flynn’s dismissal, Mr. Trump tried to get James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director, to drop the investigation — an act that some legal experts say is grounds for an investigation of Mr. Trump for possible obstruction of justice. He fired Mr. Comey on May 9.

The White House declined to comment on whether officials there had known about Mr. Flynn’s legal troubles before the inauguration.

Mr. Flynn, a retired general, is one of a handful of Trump associates under scrutiny in intertwined federal investigations into their financial links to foreign governments and whether any of them helped Russia interfere in the presidential election.

In congressional testimony, the acting F.B.I. director, Andrew G. McCabe, has confirmed the existence of a “highly significant” investigation into possible collusion between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russian operatives to sway the presidential election. The pace of the investigations has intensified in recent weeks, with a veteran espionage prosecutor, Brandon Van Grack, now leading a grand jury inquiry in Northern Virginia that is scrutinizing Mr. Flynn’s foreign lobbying and has begun issuing subpoenas to businesses that worked with Mr. Flynn and his associates.

The New York Times has reviewed one of the subpoenas. It demands all “records, research, contracts, bank records, communications” and other documents related to work with Mr. Flynn and the Flynn Intel Group, the business he set up after he was forced out as chief of the Defense Intelligence Agency in 2014.

The subpoena also asks for similar records about Ekim Alptekin, a Turkish businessman who is close to President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey and is chairman of the Turkish-American Business Council. There is no indication that Mr. Alptekin is under investigation.

Signed by Dana J. Boente, the United States attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, the subpoena instructs the recipient to direct any questions about its contents to Mr. Van Grack.

Mr. Van Grack, a national security prosecutor based at the Justice Department headquarters in Washington, has experience conducting espionage investigations. He prosecuted a businessman for illegally exporting thousands of sensitive electronics components to Iran and a suspected hacker in the Syrian Electronic Army. In 2015, he prosecuted a Virginia man for acting as an unregistered agent of Syria’s intelligence services.

According to people who have talked to Mr. Flynn about the case, he sees the Justice Department’s investigation as part of an effort by the Obama administration and its holdovers in the government to keep him out of the White House. In his view, this effort began immediately after the election, when President Barack Obama, who had fired Mr. Flynn as the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, told Mr. Trump that he would have profound concerns about Mr. Flynn’s becoming a top national security aide.

The people close to Mr. Flynn said he believed that when that warning did not dissuade Mr. Trump from making him national security adviser, the Justice Department opened its investigation into his lobbying work. They spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid angering Justice Department or White House officials.

The investigation stems from the work Mr. Flynn did for Inovo BV, a Dutch company owned by Mr. Alptekin, the Turkish businessman. On Aug. 9, Mr. Flynn and the Flynn Intel Group signed a contract with Inovo for $600,000 over 90 days to run an influence campaign aimed at discrediting Fethullah Gulen, an reclusive cleric who lives in Pennsylvania and whom Mr. Erdogan has accused of orchestrating a failed coup in Turkey last summer.

When he was hired by Mr. Alptekin, Mr. Flynn did not register as a foreign agent, as required by law when an American represents the interests of a foreign government. Only in March did he file a retroactive registration with the Justice Department because his lawyer, Robert K. Kelner, said that “the engagement could be construed to have principally benefited the Republic of Turkey.”

Trump campaign officials first became aware of a problem with Mr. Flynn’s business dealings in early November. On Nov. 8, the day of the election, Mr. Flynn wrote an op-ed in The Hill that advocated improved relations between Turkey and the United States and called Mr. Gulen “a shady Islamic mullah.”

“If he were in reality a moderate, he would not be in exile, nor would he excite the animus of Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his government,” the op-ed said.

Days later, after an article in The Daily Caller revealed that the Flynn Intel Group had a contract with Inovo, a Trump campaign lawyer held a conference call with members of the Flynn Intel Group, according to one person with knowledge of the call. The lawyer, William McGinley, was seeking more information about the nature of the group’s foreign work and wanted to know whether Mr. Flynn had been paid for the op-ed.

Mr. McGinley now works in the White House as cabinet secretary and deputy assistant to the president.

The Justice Department also took notice. The op-ed in The Hill raised suspicions that Mr. Flynn was working as a foreign agent, and in a letter dated Nov. 30, the Justice Department notified Mr. Flynn that it was scrutinizing his lobbying work.

Mr. Flynn hired a lawyer a few weeks later. By Jan. 4, the day Mr. Flynn informed Mr. McGahn of the inquiry, the Justice Department was investigating the matter.

Mr. Kelner then followed up with another call to the Trump transition’s legal team. He ended up leaving a message, identifying himself as Mr. Flynn’s lawyer. According to a person familiar with the case, Mr. Kelner did not get a call back until two days later, on Jan. 6.

Around the time of Mr. Flynn’s call with Mr. McGahn, the F.B.I. began investigating Mr. Flynn on a separate matter: phone conversations he had in late December with Sergey I. Kislyak, Russia’s ambassador to the United States. Current and former American officials said that, on the calls, Mr. Flynn discussed sanctions that the Obama administration had imposed on Russia for disrupting the November election.

After news of the calls became public, Mr. Flynn misled Mr. Pence about what he had discussed with Mr. Kislyak, telling him that the two had only exchanged holiday pleasantries.

Days after the inauguration, Ms. Yates, the acting attorney general, spoke with Mr. McGahn at the White House, telling him Justice Department lawyers believed that Mr. Flynn might be vulnerable to Russian blackmail. Since the Russians knew that Mr. Flynn had lied to the vice president, she said, they might have leverage over him.


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Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 03:16:47
May 18 2017 03:13 GMT
#151386
NYT and WaPo deserve Medals of Freedom for what they've been doing. (You know, once we have a President who isn't an enemy of Western civilization).

For the first time I can remember, we're really seeing why a free press is the ultimate cornerstone of democracy. We'd be lost without them, at the mercy of this corrupt majority that is strangling our government and refusing accountability.

I subbed with the WaPo today. Least I can do for the one institution that is actually succeeding in protecting our republic from within.
Big water
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
May 18 2017 03:23 GMT
#151387
So... I decided to cruise on over to r/The_Donald out of curiosity for how they're reacting to all this. There was a thread about Laura Ingraham tweeting about how there should be political consequences for any Republican that is helping the Dems resist Trump right now. In the thread I found this:
[image loading]
I'm honestly not sure what to think of this kind of thing. I mean, it's the internet, and I know if you lose sleep over every ugly thing that is said on the internet you'll never sleep again. But seriously, what am I supposed to think about this? There's people here talking about how civil war is imminent and they're gonna win because their side has all the guns, and military veterans talking about how they think the armed forces would side with Trump if an impeachment happened.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 03:41:57
May 18 2017 03:27 GMT
#151388
If some rubes want to fight the National Guard, because their beloved Pravda billionaire got exposed...

Yeah, I'm not losing any sleep over that. I just don't see them as being capable of doing anything effectively.

Not to mention, it's 4chan/reddit keyboard-warriors who probably have internal-struggles just making it to their local grocer.


edit: I've been involved with the Army. Been to many military bases around the country. Know many soldiers. The idea that soldiers would get involved in some political-upheaval is the purest form of fantasy, I promise. I know soldiers who've done multiple tours in Afghan, and now they're rock-climbing in California and smoking pot.

A couple rubes? Sure. Of course. That's the worst-case scenario, really.

Some conservative-types love to think the military is homogenously with them. And in the 80s, there was some truth to that. And a lot of older ranks probably still worship the Reagan portraits on their wall.

But, really, especially since Iraq, and this generation... you're talking about the most diverse group of people imaginable. There is actually very little that is homogenous about the army aside from the unifroms. They follow orders -- they don't make decisions of their own en-masse. This shit is just pure fantasy, which considering the source...
Big water
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 03:30:09
May 18 2017 03:29 GMT
#151389
good luck with that Trump and the military he got one tenth of the generals supporting him during campaign that Romney got.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
May 18 2017 03:40 GMT
#151390
To be clear, I'm not saying I think the Centipede Army is going to take over Washington DC or anything. But there's supposedly 400,000 people (who knows how much they've artificially inflated their subscriber numbers, that's anyone's guess) in that community, and apparently over there when someone talks about literally taking over DC by force that shit gets upvoted.

My immediate impulse is to stop going to those parts of the internet and go back to pretending they don't exist. But seriously, that's some toxic ideology brewing over there. Does that not seem like the sort of thing that can lead to terrorist groups?
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 18 2017 03:40 GMT
#151391
I haven't heard the conspiracy theorists explain why Comey testified under oath that the Trump administration hadn't pressured him to stop the investigation. "It's not happened." I guess special counsel this week, perjury proceedings next week.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 03:46:38
May 18 2017 03:41 GMT
#151392


This tweet chain, which I won't link the entire thing, is scandalous and lines up with a lot of what we know right now. Flynn may have delayed a military operation in Raqqa because Turkey was paying him to do it. Turkey didn't want the Kurds in the city. And the Trump team knew all of this.

On May 18 2017 12:40 Danglars wrote:
I haven't heard the conspiracy theorists explain why Comey testified under oath that the Trump administration hadn't pressured him to stop the investigation. "It's not happened." I guess special counsel this week, perjury proceedings next week.


I believe he was specifically asked if he was being told to drop the Russian investigation. The thing Trump asked him to stop was the investigation into Flynn for being an agent for Turkey. I believe those are two separate cases, only linked because Flynn could have been blackmailed by Russia.

Edit: I stand corrected.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 03:49:55
May 18 2017 03:45 GMT
#151393
On May 18 2017 12:40 Danglars wrote:
I haven't heard the conspiracy theorists explain why Comey testified under oath that the Trump administration hadn't pressured him to stop the investigation. "It's not happened." I guess special counsel this week, perjury proceedings next week.


Umm. Did you watch the testimony? He said under oath that the DOJ and AG didn't ask him to stop an investigation-unfortunately, none of the conservative rags are reporting what question was asked, which specifies AG/senior DOJ officials. Not that nobody in the Trump admin did.

Sessions and the DOJ aren't dumb enough to fuck up like Trump.

I'm glad you've absorbed the latest conservative talking points though! It makes my job easier.

Edit: Basically, his statement was standard hedging and nothing in the revealed memo indicates it's perjury afaik
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 18 2017 03:47 GMT
#151394
On May 18 2017 12:23 ChristianS wrote:
So... I decided to cruise on over to r/The_Donald out of curiosity for how they're reacting to all this. There was a thread about Laura Ingraham tweeting about how there should be political consequences for any Republican that is helping the Dems resist Trump right now. In the thread I found this:
[image loading]
I'm honestly not sure what to think of this kind of thing. I mean, it's the internet, and I know if you lose sleep over every ugly thing that is said on the internet you'll never sleep again. But seriously, what am I supposed to think about this? There's people here talking about how civil war is imminent and they're gonna win because their side has all the guns, and military veterans talking about how they think the armed forces would side with Trump if an impeachment happened.

Don't cruise over to The_Donald if you're going to examine it critically rather than have a nice laugh and catch some memes. I'm not tuning into Mensch for deep analysis of Russian-American relations.
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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 03:49:54
May 18 2017 03:47 GMT
#151395
In all honesty, The_Donald is pretty much a dumpster for human failures. Every now and then i tune in for amusement (which very quickly turns into disgust), but i wouldn't take anything there seriously. Like, i wouldn't take that salt with a grain of truth.

You should've seen them when Le Pen lost. Then again, the worst part is, they're just a little bit more extreme than self-proclaimed "normal" trump supporters. Somehow, trump managed to lead a minority of americans into a parallel universe where everything that doesn't praise the cheeto is fake news, liberal agenda, and in general so SAD.

I still can't comprehend how people actually believe in trump after constantly being shown the opposite. It's like a fucking cult now. Completely neglecting actual facts like how trump loves to harp on chinese and will do anything to get jobs back to the US - while his daughter just got under scrutiny for possibly paying unfair/too low wage in china. A realistic person would wonder how much you can trust his words if he can't get his own daughter to do what was a major cornerstone in his campaign: employ americans.

But nah. That's just smart business.

conspiracy theorists


Trump, almost through no fault of his own, is revealing just how politically driven the fourth branch, courts, and media are.


.. right.
On track to MA1950A.
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
May 18 2017 03:48 GMT
#151396
On May 18 2017 12:47 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 12:23 ChristianS wrote:
So... I decided to cruise on over to r/The_Donald out of curiosity for how they're reacting to all this. There was a thread about Laura Ingraham tweeting about how there should be political consequences for any Republican that is helping the Dems resist Trump right now. In the thread I found this:
[image loading]
I'm honestly not sure what to think of this kind of thing. I mean, it's the internet, and I know if you lose sleep over every ugly thing that is said on the internet you'll never sleep again. But seriously, what am I supposed to think about this? There's people here talking about how civil war is imminent and they're gonna win because their side has all the guns, and military veterans talking about how they think the armed forces would side with Trump if an impeachment happened.

Don't cruise over to The_Donald if you're going to examine it critically rather than have a nice laugh and catch some memes. I'm not tuning into Mensch for deep analysis of Russian-American relations.

Probably good advice, for my sanity's sake.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 03:49:21
May 18 2017 03:48 GMT
#151397
On May 18 2017 12:40 ChristianS wrote:
To be clear, I'm not saying I think the Centipede Army is going to take over Washington DC or anything. But there's supposedly 400,000 people (who knows how much they've artificially inflated their subscriber numbers, that's anyone's guess) in that community, and apparently over there when someone talks about literally taking over DC by force that shit gets upvoted.

My immediate impulse is to stop going to those parts of the internet and go back to pretending they don't exist. But seriously, that's some toxic ideology brewing over there. Does that not seem like the sort of thing that can lead to terrorist groups?


I mean, you can look at SPLC and find these people are everywhere.

Right-wing extremists have been talking "revolution" shit for decades, like it's going to happen tomorrow.

It's kind of funny, until you get some Dylan Roof asshole who shoots up a place, and hurts some innocent folk.

That's the danger, I guess. But... these people are ALWAYS mad, and ALWAYS have an excuse to martyr themselves if they want.

American-Taliban.
Big water
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
May 18 2017 03:51 GMT
#151398
On May 18 2017 12:48 Leporello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 12:40 ChristianS wrote:
To be clear, I'm not saying I think the Centipede Army is going to take over Washington DC or anything. But there's supposedly 400,000 people (who knows how much they've artificially inflated their subscriber numbers, that's anyone's guess) in that community, and apparently over there when someone talks about literally taking over DC by force that shit gets upvoted.

My immediate impulse is to stop going to those parts of the internet and go back to pretending they don't exist. But seriously, that's some toxic ideology brewing over there. Does that not seem like the sort of thing that can lead to terrorist groups?


I mean, you can look at SPLC and find these people are everywhere.

Right-wing extremists have been talking "revolution" shit for decades, like it's going to happen tomorrow.

It's kind of funny, until you get some Dylan Roof asshole who shoots up a place, and hurts some innocent folk.

That's the danger, I guess. But... these people are ALWAYS mad, and ALWAYS have an excuse to martyr themselves if they want.

American-Taliban.


Fox news is already beginning to lay the groundwork of a violent unrest if impeachment were to occur. They refer to trump's base as "people who do more than protest on streets" and are "not to be taken lightly" etc etc
Question.?
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
May 18 2017 03:51 GMT
#151399
On May 18 2017 12:48 Leporello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 12:40 ChristianS wrote:
To be clear, I'm not saying I think the Centipede Army is going to take over Washington DC or anything. But there's supposedly 400,000 people (who knows how much they've artificially inflated their subscriber numbers, that's anyone's guess) in that community, and apparently over there when someone talks about literally taking over DC by force that shit gets upvoted.

My immediate impulse is to stop going to those parts of the internet and go back to pretending they don't exist. But seriously, that's some toxic ideology brewing over there. Does that not seem like the sort of thing that can lead to terrorist groups?


I mean, you can look at SPLC and find these people are everywhere.

Right-wing extremists have been talking "revolution" shit for decades, like it's going to happen tomorrow.

It's kind of funny, until you get some Dylan Roof asshole who shoots up a place, and hurts some innocent folk.

That's the danger, I guess. But... these people are ALWAYS mad, and ALWAYS have an excuse to martyr themselves if they want.

American-Taliban.


Ameliban?
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 18 2017 03:54 GMT
#151400
On May 18 2017 12:45 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 12:40 Danglars wrote:
I haven't heard the conspiracy theorists explain why Comey testified under oath that the Trump administration hadn't pressured him to stop the investigation. "It's not happened." I guess special counsel this week, perjury proceedings next week.


Umm. Did you watch the testimony? He said under oath that the DOJ and AG didn't ask him to stop an investigation-unfortunately, none of the conservative rags are reporting what question was asked, which specifies AG/senior DOJ officials. Not that nobody in the Trump admin did.

Sessions and the DOJ aren't dumb enough to fuck up like Trump.

I'm glad you've absorbed the latest conservative talking points though! It makes my job easier.

Edit: Basically, his statement was standard hedging and nothing in the revealed memo indicates it's perjury afaik

Conservative talking points? Cute, bro. I'm pretty incredulous that Trump impeded the progress of the investigation and he's squirming and dodging in sworn testimony because the question was senior doj officials and not Trump administration officials. But you're right, he could dodge the perjury charge on the basis of the question.
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