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On March 12 2017 11:24 Doodsmack wrote:


It's just funny to hear a trump supporter criticize "credibility capital" without saying anything about trump.

On March 12 2017 11:48 Danglars wrote:

I think we're making forward progress by you finally accepting a_flayer's claims about the media so we can continue to what this means about Trump's rhetoric and the rest. I just expected more opposition than acceptance out of you and I hope more will follow your example.

On March 12 2017 10:02 Doodsmack wrote:
I didn't say anything about whether a_flayer has it right

On March 12 2017 11:54 Aquanim wrote:


Stop trolling, Danglars.

On March 12 2017 12:11 Danglars wrote:

Lay off it or read the original. Seriously. I don't care if he has in his mind the media charges are so ruinous that he'd better shift to talking about Trump. And then claim "you keep going on about trump." That's up to how much whataboutism he likes spewing. What I do find interesting is how everything is almost immediately accepted, like he knows how dead-on the criticism really is because he'd rather instantly shift to parallels. I didn't say anything about Trump, yet he claims I keep going on about Trump. I talked about a_flayer's critique of the media, but he doesn't even dip his pinkie toe in that pond. Clearly, we need some actual focus here and not repeated deflection.

On March 12 2017 12:45 Aquanim wrote:

I have read the original. Doodsmack never said anything which indicated an opinion in either direction on a_flayer's argument. You asserted that he did, he corrected you, and yet you're still trying to assert that he did.

Your desire to appear that you are being convincing or that you have a good argument, and ignoring the facts which don't correspond to that desire, is not making you look good to anybody else here Danglars.

On March 12 2017 11:43 Philoctetes wrote:
Trump really believes Obamacare is bad. Republicans merely want to repeal it so people only get the health care they can afford on the free market.

Trump wants to give people more and better coverage under his new plan, and he thinks that is possible. However, Republicans are blocking him.

So Trump's 'solution' is to wait until Obamacare fails so so badly, that it will create extreme backlash against the democrats, and Trump can say 'I told you so'.

However, Republicans aren't so eager, for obvious reasons.

Yes, Trump is apparently that delusional.

(CNN)A 64-year-old Florida man tried to set a convenience store on fire because he thought the owners were Muslim, St. Lucie County Sheriff Ken Mascara said.

Richard Lloyd told deputies he wanted to "run the Arabs out of our country" so he pushed a dumpster in front of the Port St. Lucie store and set the contents on fire, Mascara said in a news release posted on Facebook

Lloyd told detectives he assumed the owner was Muslim and that angered him because of "what they are doing in the Middle East," Mascara said.
"It's unfortunate that Mr. Lloyd made the assumption that the store owners were Arabic when, in fact, they are of Indian descent," Mascara said.
The sheriff said Lloyd's mental health will be evaluated and the state attorney's office will decide if this was a hate crime.
The fire at the Met Mart in Port St. Lucie was quickly put out Friday morning and did not cause much damage, Mascara said. The store was closed and protected by security shutters.

On March 12 2017 14:12 Danglars wrote:
Who needs to make any argument when people prefer to talk about Y when I comment on X? I find it extremely troubling to always deflect to Y when X is brought up, so I'm forced to believe that X is far too damaging to admit that whataboutism enters in.

On March 12 2017 14:31 a_flayer wrote:
Based on responses such as "I can't believe I actually agree with a_flayer", I'm pretty sure everyone just outright dismisses my views unless they explicitly state otherwise.

(CNN)By the narrowest of margins, a bill expanding Utah's anti-bigamy law passed the state Senate just before a midnight deadline Thursday.

The bill changes the wording of what makes someone a bigamist in the state and adds penalties for cases that involve abuse, fraud and human trafficking, according to the text of the bill.
Kody Brown and his four wives, the stars of the reality TV show "Sister Wives," sued Utah in 2011, saying its law was unconstitutional. The polygamists won in US District Court in 2013 but the decision was overturned on appeal last year.
According to The Salt Lake Tribune, Utah state Rep. Mike Noel, a Republican, proposed changes to the anti-bigamy law after reviewing the Brown case. His goal with rewording the law is to avoid any potential lawsuits, he told CNN affiliate KTSU in February.
The law would now say that a person is guilty of bigamy if he or she lives with a purported spouse while legally married to someone else. The current law says bigamy occurs when a married man weds someone "spiritually" or when he cohabitates with someone.

According to KTSU, the office of Utah's attorney general has said it will prosecute polygamy cases only if they involve other crimes.

On March 12 2017 15:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Not going to lie, as a Floridian, it's getting scary with all the local news around here.

This happened not to long ago, and I mean nothing racial, but crazy. And I've only been seeing crazy stuff lately

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Man-Shot-in-Face-in-Road-Rage-Incident-in-Southwest-Miami-Dade-415344503.html

On March 12 2017 15:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Not going to lie, as a Floridian, it's getting scary with all the local news around here.

This happened not to long ago, and I mean nothing racial, but crazy. And I've only been seeing crazy stuff lately

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Man-Shot-in-Face-in-Road-Rage-Incident-in-Southwest-Miami-Dade-415344503.html

On March 12 2017 14:39 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
republican campaign slogan 2018. "we ran on repealing and replacing Obamacare but despite majorities in both the senate and house it's still broken and what we passed arguably made it worse and raised all your premiums by thousands of dollars but elect us because we need to fix the mess Obama made."

Dems still need to start getting some positive platforms to run on though. off the top of my head childhood hunger, veteren reintegration and support, and fighting opioid addiction are be pretty universally popular. Mental health reform also.

On March 12 2017 17:01 LegalLord wrote:
By the way, does anyone think we'll ever have a president who reduces the national debt? Or are we going to increase debt-to-GDP in perpetuity until the country starts to be owned by China?