EPTBonus points if he wins again with a massive electoral-popular split.
Four more years of daily diplomatic scuffles between the US and any other country.
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Bonus points if he wins again with a massive electoral-popular split. Four more years of daily diplomatic scuffles between the US and any other country. | ||
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pmh
1416 Posts
he is not the youngest anymore and might also want enjoy time with his family a bit more. He will be president trump for the rest of his lifetime already. first female president of the usa: a:oprah b:ivanka trump c:someone else | ||
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ChristianS
United States3304 Posts
On March 12 2017 04:57 pmh wrote: would trump even want a 2nd term? he is not the youngest anymore and might also want enjoy time with his family a bit more. He will be president trump for the rest of his lifetime already. He filed his candidacy virtually immediately after inauguration. Which is both highly unusual and means he can already start collecting campaign donations. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24505 Posts
On March 12 2017 05:38 LegalLord wrote: Hopefully someone better than Hillary Clinton is put up by the Democrats so as to not lose twice to a delusional clown. Not if Democrats like Peter Daou get their way. I know there will be a wing of Democrats calling for her to run, it will boil down to whether some of her supporters and/or she will tell them "no, that's a terrible idea". | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On March 12 2017 05:38 LegalLord wrote: Hopefully someone better than Hillary Clinton is put up by the Democrats so as to not lose twice to a delusional clown. Changes in structural factors (i.e. stuff like incumbent position tends to get worse) will likely be sufficient to prevent Trump from winning. if trump lasts that long, and doesn't lose the primary. too early to tell who the dems will run, as most of the old guard is really getting too old. I don't think there's any other candidates like hillary in the party atm (i.e. people with lots of establishment strength but terrible public charisma); at least none with enough clout to win. | ||
Liquid`Drone
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
Probably another thing to keep in mind when evaluating the Clinton loss. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On March 12 2017 05:50 Liquid`Drone wrote: Aren't incumbents considered 'structurally favored' in the US? Yes but there is precedent for a significant primary challenge to the incumbent president. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On March 12 2017 05:50 Liquid`Drone wrote: Aren't incumbents considered 'structurally favored' in the US? at lower levels, yes; at the presidential level it's far weaker, and presidential approval ratings tend to get worse over time, adn the president's party tends to lose seats in congress. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On March 12 2017 05:58 zlefin wrote: at lower levels, yes; at the presidential level it's far weaker, and presidential approval ratings tend to get worse over time, adn the president's party tends to lose seats in congress. Well red states are starting to lose their state senate seats already to democrats. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On March 12 2017 01:09 Danglars wrote: They're putting all their chips on Russia and they'll have a big payout if, against all odds, there was criminal collusion or pay-to-hack. But like Rolling Stone laid out, if nothing turns up they lose hard. The thing they have so little of right now is credibility capital. The idea that you would mention "credibility capital" without ever noting the (complete lack of) credibility of trump's claims is pretty astounding. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 12 2017 09:27 Doodsmack wrote: The idea that you would mention "credibility capital" without ever noting the (complete lack of) credibility of trump's claims is pretty astounding. Seeing you finally accept that the a_flayer has it right here is heartening. Thank you. Maybe we won't need to restate the reasons why this half of the equation is the truth in the future. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 12 2017 10:02 Doodsmack wrote: I didn't say anything about whether a_flayer has it right but you keep going on about trump and the truth. There's not much of a relationship between the two. He's mostly just a con. Brother, I mentioned the media twice and specifically without Trump, and both times you brought up Trump. So you tell me who keeps going on and on about Trump. You're really just projecting the insecurities you wish everybody talked about more. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24505 Posts
(not the Obamacare part) | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 12 2017 10:20 GreenHorizons wrote: Do Republicans think this is an accurate read of the healthcare debate? https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/840572799202783233 (not the Obamacare part) The current plan was not progress and Republicans are not coming together to get job done. But Obamacare is arguably imploding and won't be getting better. Inaccurate. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Maybe the next Democratic leadership will push UHC since I think the "socialism" phobia has slowly receded. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On March 12 2017 10:08 Danglars wrote: Brother, I mentioned the media twice and specifically without Trump, and both times you brought up Trump. So you tell me who keeps going on and on about Trump. You're really just projecting the insecurities you wish everybody talked about more. It's just funny to hear a trump supporter criticize "credibility capital" without saying anything about trump. | ||
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