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On March 03 2017 09:44 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2017 09:26 Doodsmack wrote:On March 03 2017 09:17 Danglars wrote:On March 03 2017 09:01 Introvert wrote:On March 03 2017 08:34 Danglars wrote:On March 03 2017 07:21 LegalLord wrote:On March 03 2017 07:02 Shield wrote: Sad days for America. From the greatest state in the world to laughing stock. Why did you choose Trump guys? Because people hated his opponent enough for an "accident" to happen. On March 03 2017 07:34 LegalLord wrote:On March 03 2017 07:32 Shield wrote:On March 03 2017 07:29 Mohdoo wrote:On March 03 2017 07:25 ShoCkeyy wrote:On March 03 2017 07:21 LegalLord wrote: [quote] Because people hated his opponent enough for an "accident" to happen. This. I remember hearing some of my friends say they would rather not vote Hillary, and let Trump win as punishment. Every friend I know who is like this makes a very comfortable living and really doesn't have anything to lose from a Trump presidency. Your friends have flawed logic. Hillary Clinton is probably so rich it doesn't bother her too much. However, punishment in this case is more like self-punishment as a nation. People hate Hillary so badly that that is acceptable. Besides Trump, she is the least popular nominee in history. Two pristine chances to use 'electable' and you whiffed. On topic: the better candidate won. Better luck next time! I know we're all still enjoying Hillary's loss, but let's not encourage this, as it also leads to bitching about use of the word "electable." And better president? Yeah probably. Better candidate? That's hardly obvious :p I know one day the meme will wear out. Today is not that day nor is tomorrow. Shock and outrage at Trump in the "why was he elected" vein renews the lease. And yeah unequivocably better candidate for a major party. Not that the bar was set all that high this time around. You've been conned, and enthusiastically at that. + Show Spoiler + Reminding myself that it was between this and Hillary is an incredibly comforting thought. Supreme Court going to be better, cabinet picks pretty good overall. So far, the rolls of the dice have been better than I expected.
Not for immigrants, legal citizens that have been affected by this, and the eco system. Good job on that...
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On March 03 2017 09:37 Tachion wrote: I wonder how Ted Cruz would be doing as president right now.
Don't do that to me.
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On March 03 2017 09:46 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2017 09:44 Danglars wrote:On March 03 2017 09:26 Doodsmack wrote:On March 03 2017 09:17 Danglars wrote:On March 03 2017 09:01 Introvert wrote:On March 03 2017 08:34 Danglars wrote:On March 03 2017 07:21 LegalLord wrote:On March 03 2017 07:02 Shield wrote: Sad days for America. From the greatest state in the world to laughing stock. Why did you choose Trump guys? Because people hated his opponent enough for an "accident" to happen. On March 03 2017 07:34 LegalLord wrote:On March 03 2017 07:32 Shield wrote:On March 03 2017 07:29 Mohdoo wrote:On March 03 2017 07:25 ShoCkeyy wrote: [quote]
This. I remember hearing some of my friends say they would rather not vote Hillary, and let Trump win as punishment. Every friend I know who is like this makes a very comfortable living and really doesn't have anything to lose from a Trump presidency. Your friends have flawed logic. Hillary Clinton is probably so rich it doesn't bother her too much. However, punishment in this case is more like self-punishment as a nation. People hate Hillary so badly that that is acceptable. Besides Trump, she is the least popular nominee in history. Two pristine chances to use 'electable' and you whiffed. On topic: the better candidate won. Better luck next time! I know we're all still enjoying Hillary's loss, but let's not encourage this, as it also leads to bitching about use of the word "electable." And better president? Yeah probably. Better candidate? That's hardly obvious :p I know one day the meme will wear out. Today is not that day nor is tomorrow. Shock and outrage at Trump in the "why was he elected" vein renews the lease. And yeah unequivocably better candidate for a major party. Not that the bar was set all that high this time around. You've been conned, and enthusiastically at that. + Show Spoiler + Reminding myself that it was between this and Hillary is an incredibly comforting thought. Supreme Court going to be better, cabinet picks pretty good overall. So far, the rolls of the dice have been better than I expected. Not for immigrants, legal citizens that have been affected by this, and the eco system. Good job on that... He's rounding up legal citizens and throwing them in concentration camps without me knowing, isn't he? Legal citizens could also be celebrating his win and continued efforts that affect them. Eco system is this some reference to EPA or climate change? Sometimes I lose track of what I should be outraged about with all these wannabe scandals.
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On March 03 2017 09:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2017 09:37 Tachion wrote: I wonder how Ted Cruz would be doing as president right now. The democrats would of lit the whole gay/cheating on his wife scandal back up. Preeeettttty sure infidelity was not a major concern this past election given the results.
Ironically for the republicans, the SCOTUS legalizing gay marriage was probably the best thing to happen to the party in a good while. That was a huge social issue that the democrats no longer have on their side.
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On March 03 2017 09:55 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2017 09:46 ShoCkeyy wrote:On March 03 2017 09:44 Danglars wrote:On March 03 2017 09:26 Doodsmack wrote:On March 03 2017 09:17 Danglars wrote:On March 03 2017 09:01 Introvert wrote:On March 03 2017 08:34 Danglars wrote:On March 03 2017 07:21 LegalLord wrote:On March 03 2017 07:02 Shield wrote: Sad days for America. From the greatest state in the world to laughing stock. Why did you choose Trump guys? Because people hated his opponent enough for an "accident" to happen. On March 03 2017 07:34 LegalLord wrote:On March 03 2017 07:32 Shield wrote:On March 03 2017 07:29 Mohdoo wrote: [quote]
Every friend I know who is like this makes a very comfortable living and really doesn't have anything to lose from a Trump presidency. Your friends have flawed logic. Hillary Clinton is probably so rich it doesn't bother her too much. However, punishment in this case is more like self-punishment as a nation. People hate Hillary so badly that that is acceptable. Besides Trump, she is the least popular nominee in history. Two pristine chances to use 'electable' and you whiffed. On topic: the better candidate won. Better luck next time! I know we're all still enjoying Hillary's loss, but let's not encourage this, as it also leads to bitching about use of the word "electable." And better president? Yeah probably. Better candidate? That's hardly obvious :p I know one day the meme will wear out. Today is not that day nor is tomorrow. Shock and outrage at Trump in the "why was he elected" vein renews the lease. And yeah unequivocably better candidate for a major party. Not that the bar was set all that high this time around. You've been conned, and enthusiastically at that. + Show Spoiler + Reminding myself that it was between this and Hillary is an incredibly comforting thought. Supreme Court going to be better, cabinet picks pretty good overall. So far, the rolls of the dice have been better than I expected. Not for immigrants, legal citizens that have been affected by this, and the eco system. Good job on that... He's rounding up legal citizens and throwing them in concentration camps without me knowing, isn't he? Legal citizens could also be celebrating his win and continued efforts that affect them. Eco system is this some reference to EPA or climate change? Sometimes I lose track of what I should be outraged about with all these wannabe scandals. Wouldn't be the first time legal citizens have been undocumented and have been deported without due process because immigration courts aren't actual courts.
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Don't know if someone already posted this:
Washington (CNN)-Several US officials told CNN Thursday that the US is now taking action to locate and monitor hundreds of people or "contacts" found as part the intelligence retrieved during the deadly raid last month in Yemen targeting al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.
Some of these people are believed to be in the West, but not in the United States.
The government is taking action to find and monitor these AQAP-linked individuals because of the threat they may pose to Europe, the officials added.
The fact that officials said they are actively pursuing leads uncovered from the raid indicates that the intelligence was indeed actionable despite some media reports to the contrary.
The terabyte's worth of intelligence gathered from computers and cell phones is now being reviewed at the National Media Exploitation Center outside Washington, which analyzes documents, electronic media, cell phones, video and audio tapes seized on overseas missions.
Defense officials have told CNN that information pertaining to the location of safe havens, explosives manufacturing, training and targets was acquired in the January ground operation. http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/02/politics/yemen-raid-al-qaeda-intelligence-contacts/index.html
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When Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak traveled to the GOP convention last summer, he met with then Sen. Jeff Sessions, as well as with two other Trump campaign advisers, including oil industry consultant Carter Page.
Page, at the time an unpaid foreign policy adviser to Trump, engaged in a conversation with the ambassador at the same July 20 luncheon in Cleveland where Sessions, now attorney general, and Kislyak chatted, according to J.D. Gordon, a national security adviser to the Trump campaign who was also present at the lunch.
Page declined to comment Thursday about what he and the Russian ambassador discussed, saying it was a private, off-the-record conversation. "Everyone assumes everything is nefarious!" Page said a text message. "Thanks, but no comment."
Contacts between Russian officials and Trump campaign staff are now the subject of investigations by the FBI and congressional committees into Russian interference in the election, and whether Trump campaign representatives played any role in it. On Thursday, Sessions recused himself from investigations into Russian efforts to sway the 2016 election in Trump's favor.
The disclosure that other Trump officials met with Kislyak raise additional questions about White House assertions that the Trump campaign had little or no contact with Russian officials prior to the election.
Page's conversation with Kislyak just days after news reports of Russian hacking of the Democratic National Committee is part of a broader pattern of activity by Page that raised U.S. suspicions about his interactions with the Russians, according to a former Obama White House official. At the time of the lunch, Page had just returned from a trip to Moscow.
The official said the Obama administration was gravely concerned in its final days about increasingly apparent ties between Trump associates and Russians, and about what appeared to be promises made by more than one individual to people affiliated with Russian President Vladimir Putin about policy changes that would occur once Trump was sworn in as president. The Obama official declined to discuss specifics but said Page was one of the Trump associates whose activities had drawn the most U.S. attention and concern.
Trump has defended Sessions. White House spokesman Sean Spicer repeated Thursday afternoon that Sessions and other officials have not done anything wrong. "There's no there there," Spicer told reporters.
Gordon, a retired Navy commander, said Page and Kislyak spoke at some length about how to improve relations between the two countries on issues like counterterrorism and energy security. "Carter told him we should have a new chapter of U.S.-Russia relations that build on mutual respect and common goals and that there is no need to keep up this hostility," Gordon said. "He said we should have better relations with Russia."
He added that Kislyek suggested the two countries should share intelligence "so that we don’t have problems like the Tsarnaev brothers," the Chechen-Americans who set off two pressure-cooker bombs at the 2013 Boston Marathon, more than a year after Russia tried to warn U.S. officials about one of them.
Page and Sessions were among several people affiliated with the Trump campaign who engaged with Kislyak while in Cleveland, including at the lunch, which was part of a State Department-funded initiative to bring foreign ambassadors to both political conventions, Gordon said. "The Trump campaign advisers were there to interact with the ambassadors, just like [the ambassadors] were interacting with the Democrats in Philadelphia the next week," Gordon said. "That was the whole point of the program."
Trump officials have distanced themselves from Page, who left the campaign in late September. The founder and managing partner of Global Energy Capital, Page spent seven years as an investment banker at Merrill Lynch in London, Moscow and New York. His website says he has been involved in more than $25 billion of transactions in the energy and power sector, and that he spent 3 years in Moscow where he was an adviser on key transactions for Russian state-owned gas company Gazprom and other energy-related companies.
After Trump identified Page as one of his foreign policy and energy advisers last March, Page said in a Bloomberg News interview that he had been an investor in, and adviser to, the Gazprom. He also criticized the Obama administration sanctions on Russia imposed because of its annexation of Crimea.
Officially, Page's role was "advising Mr. Trump on energy policy and Russia," according to a campaign release at the time. Throughout the spring and summer, Page sent policy memos to the campaign and kept in contact with Trump’s national security advisory board, including Sessions, Gordon said. "He wanted access to Trump, he wanted his policy memos to be reflected in Trump speeches, he was always calling. And he wanted to go to Russia, which we thought was a bad idea," he added.
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On March 03 2017 09:56 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2017 09:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:On March 03 2017 09:37 Tachion wrote: I wonder how Ted Cruz would be doing as president right now. The democrats would of lit the whole gay/cheating on his wife scandal back up. Preeeettttty sure infidelity was not a major concern this past election given the results. Ironically for the republicans, the SCOTUS legalizing gay marriage was probably the best thing to happen to the party in a good while. That was a huge social issue that the democrats no longer have on their side.
Of course not, the people apparently wanted more drama.
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On March 03 2017 09:44 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2017 09:26 Doodsmack wrote:On March 03 2017 09:17 Danglars wrote:On March 03 2017 09:01 Introvert wrote:On March 03 2017 08:34 Danglars wrote:On March 03 2017 07:21 LegalLord wrote:On March 03 2017 07:02 Shield wrote: Sad days for America. From the greatest state in the world to laughing stock. Why did you choose Trump guys? Because people hated his opponent enough for an "accident" to happen. On March 03 2017 07:34 LegalLord wrote:On March 03 2017 07:32 Shield wrote:On March 03 2017 07:29 Mohdoo wrote:On March 03 2017 07:25 ShoCkeyy wrote:On March 03 2017 07:21 LegalLord wrote: [quote] Because people hated his opponent enough for an "accident" to happen. This. I remember hearing some of my friends say they would rather not vote Hillary, and let Trump win as punishment. Every friend I know who is like this makes a very comfortable living and really doesn't have anything to lose from a Trump presidency. Your friends have flawed logic. Hillary Clinton is probably so rich it doesn't bother her too much. However, punishment in this case is more like self-punishment as a nation. People hate Hillary so badly that that is acceptable. Besides Trump, she is the least popular nominee in history. Two pristine chances to use 'electable' and you whiffed. On topic: the better candidate won. Better luck next time! I know we're all still enjoying Hillary's loss, but let's not encourage this, as it also leads to bitching about use of the word "electable." And better president? Yeah probably. Better candidate? That's hardly obvious :p I know one day the meme will wear out. Today is not that day nor is tomorrow. Shock and outrage at Trump in the "why was he elected" vein renews the lease. And yeah unequivocably better candidate for a major party. Not that the bar was set all that high this time around. You've been conned, and enthusiastically at that. + Show Spoiler + Cabinet picks pretty good overall. It's already been established how inappropriate/incompetent many of the picks are. Either support what you're saying or quit trolling.
I'm also still waiting to hear where you get your news. It'd be good if you could share, as you seem to think many of us are so ill-informed.
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Well this is awkward.
Vice-president Mike Pence used a personal email account to discuss security issues as governor of Indiana and was hacked last summer, it was reported on Thursday.
Pence’s AOL account was compromised by a scammer who sent an email to his contacts claiming Pence and his wife had been attacked on their way back to their hotel in the Philippines, losing their money, bank cards and mobile phone, the Indianapolis Star reported.
“In response, Pence sent an email to those who had received the fake communication apologising for any inconvenience,” the paper said. “He also set up a new AOL account. Because the hacker appears to have gained access to Pence’s contacts, experts say it is likely that the account was actually penetrated, giving the hacker access to Pence’s inbox and sent messages.” Jeff Sessions recuses himself from Russia inquiry amid calls for resignation Read more
The revelation comes after a bruising election campaign in which Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while secretary of state was a recurring theme. Commenting on an FBI investigation last September, Pence told NBC’s Meet the Press that the Democrat was “the most dishonest candidate for President of the United States since Richard Nixon”.
But now it is his own email system under scrutiny. The Indianapolis Star said Pence used his personal account to communicate with top advisers on subjects including security gates at the governor’s residence, efforts to prevent the resettlement of Syrian refugees and the state’s response to a shooting at Canada’s national parliament building.
“In one email, Pence’s top state homeland security adviser relayed an update from the FBI regarding the arrests of several men on federal terror-related charges,” the Star reported.
Not all the emails have been released, however, because some were deemed to be confidential or too sensitive, raising questions over what might content might have been accessed by hackers.
Indiana law does not prohibit public officials from using personal email accounts, the Star added. But it requires all records dealing with state business to be retained and available for public information requests. This would happen automatically with those sent from state servers, but a private account would require Pence to volunteer them.
The vice-president, normally seen as a safe pair of hands alongside the volatile Trump, came under swift criticism on Thursday. Paul Begala, former White House counsel to President Bill Clinton, tweeted: “Oh, and Pence’s private email? It was hacked.”
Journalist Shaun King, alluding to the chants of “Lock her up!” that haunted Clinton, posted on Twitter: “Lock him up. Lock him up. Lock him up.” Donald Trump's first 100 days as president – daily updates Read more
Marc Lotter, a spokesman for Pence, told the Star that any comparison was “absurd” since Pence would not have been dealing with classified information on the level of a secretary of state. Whereas Pence used a consumer email provider, he added, Clinton had a private server installed in her home.
The Star said it received a statement from Pence’s office that read: “Similar to previous governors, during his time as Governor of Indiana, Mike Pence maintained a state email account and a personal email account. As Governor, Mr Pence fully complied with Indiana law regarding email use and retention.
“Government emails involving his state and personal accounts are being archived by the state consistent with Indiana law, and are being managed according to Indiana’s Access to Public Records Act.”
Some observers made fun of Pence for using AOL, now seen as old fashioned compared to providers such as Gmail. “Pence is the grandpa we all think he is,” tweeted Julia Ioffe, a writer at the Atlantic.
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Can we get the pitch forks ready?
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Guess this Russia thing is blowing over again.... Maybe this nuclear bomb shelter I built isn't going to be used after all. oh well.
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The best part of that Pence story is that he was using AOL. You can't make shit like this up, folks. It's amazing. I wonder if he chose it because it clearly had "America" in the name -- the email provider of patriots everywhere.
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One would think the Pentagon would be using such projects such as this to help with Foreign Aid and so on. Helps people but also a major power projection.
An aircraft flying at night drops a flock of unpowered drones. They carry food, medicines and batteries. After delivering their load on the ground, the drones vaporize into thin air within hours.
Disposable drones that can make precise deliveries before vanishing may look like a product of Stark Industries. But the fictional giant of military technology run by Tony "Iron Man" Stark has nothing to do with them. Instead, the development of "disappearing delivery vehicles" is a project by DARPA, the Department of Defense's research and development agency.
DARPA, officially called the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, is working with several companies in the field of ephemeral materials to achieve a prototype.
The name of the $8 million program is ICARUS (Inbound, Controlled, Air-Releasable, Unrecoverable Systems), which alludes to the mythological hero who flew too close to the sun by using wings made of wax and feathers. The program aims to mimic the material transience that is depicted in the myth. In fact, finding a balance between the properties of the material to build disposable drones is the main challenge, says Troy Olsson, ICARUS program manager.
"The material [which disposable drones will be made of] has to be reliable enough to enable the flight," but then be able to vanish after delivering its payload, he says.
Options range from cardboard to polymer-based or glass-based materials. San Francisco firm Otherlab, for example, received a grant of about $1 million from DARPA in 2015 to develop cardboard-made expandable and disposable drones, according to Mikell Taylor, team lead of the project at Otherlab.
All the disposable drones under development as part of ICARUS are, technically, gliders — they don't have motors like traditional drones. They have to be dropped by an aircraft and then take advantage of the wind. An on-board navigation system allows disposable drones to correct their course and land in a precise location.
While the drone is flying, on-board sensors are supposed to measure wind and adjust its path accordingly. "[Disposable drones] fly themselves, which is a difference with commercial drones," which are remotely operated, Olsson notes. Ideally, disposable drones could carry payloads of three to 10 pounds.
The dream result would be a prototype glider that travels from 150 to 200 kilometers [93 to 124 miles] when dropped from 35,000 feet, lands within 10 meters [33 feet] of its target and vanishes within four hours after delivering its load, Olsson says.
Otherlab researchers did some actual testing. Taylor says they used off-the-shelf traditional drones to drop disposable ones from below 400 feet, the maximum altitude drones are allowed to operate under Federal Aviation Administration rules. Later, at an Army facility, researchers were able to drop disposable vehicles from 1,000 feet, she says.
"We bought all the materials we used off the shelves to focus on the airframe design," she says.
DARPA wants the disposable drones to be low-cost — from $250 to a couple of thousand dollars each, including the guidance and navigation system that combined are the size of a tennis ball, according to Olsson.
In the battlefield, applications of disposable drones would range from bringing medicines to injured soldiers to providing any critical supply — food, batteries or electrical components — to helping troops that encounter an unexpected situation. But disposable drones may also come in handy as part of a wide-scale response to earthquakes or other disasters, when people need humanitarian supplies.
"We are competing with parachute dropping, and the precision of landing is the difference," Taylor says. "For disposable drones, the range of landing accuracy is 50 feet. In an emergency situation, you want that precision."
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On March 03 2017 12:25 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2017 09:44 Danglars wrote:On March 03 2017 09:26 Doodsmack wrote:On March 03 2017 09:17 Danglars wrote:On March 03 2017 09:01 Introvert wrote:On March 03 2017 08:34 Danglars wrote:On March 03 2017 07:21 LegalLord wrote:On March 03 2017 07:02 Shield wrote: Sad days for America. From the greatest state in the world to laughing stock. Why did you choose Trump guys? Because people hated his opponent enough for an "accident" to happen. On March 03 2017 07:34 LegalLord wrote:On March 03 2017 07:32 Shield wrote:On March 03 2017 07:29 Mohdoo wrote:On March 03 2017 07:25 ShoCkeyy wrote: [quote]
This. I remember hearing some of my friends say they would rather not vote Hillary, and let Trump win as punishment. Every friend I know who is like this makes a very comfortable living and really doesn't have anything to lose from a Trump presidency. Your friends have flawed logic. Hillary Clinton is probably so rich it doesn't bother her too much. However, punishment in this case is more like self-punishment as a nation. People hate Hillary so badly that that is acceptable. Besides Trump, she is the least popular nominee in history. Two pristine chances to use 'electable' and you whiffed. On topic: the better candidate won. Better luck next time! I know we're all still enjoying Hillary's loss, but let's not encourage this, as it also leads to bitching about use of the word "electable." And better president? Yeah probably. Better candidate? That's hardly obvious :p I know one day the meme will wear out. Today is not that day nor is tomorrow. Shock and outrage at Trump in the "why was he elected" vein renews the lease. And yeah unequivocably better candidate for a major party. Not that the bar was set all that high this time around. You've been conned, and enthusiastically at that. + Show Spoiler + Cabinet picks pretty good overall. It's already been established how inappropriate/incompetent many of the picks are. Either support what you're saying or quit trolling. I'm also still waiting to hear where you get your news. It'd be good if you could share, as you seem to think many of us are so ill-informed. You might ask, inappropriate or incompetent to whom? Presumably, Trump likes them. I like most of them. And if we're going to go "it's already been established" you might as well go whole hog and say it's already been established that Trump was too extreme for America and we needn't worry about his candidacy (wink wink Nate silver 2015). It's a remarkably conservative cabinet and more than half align with my thoughts of how things should be run and what ideas would lead to more prosperity for all.
I sense you also know this is a clash of ideologies that are fundamentally irreconciliable, so at some core level you may know that people who think differently than you might also come to different conclusions on suitability. And darn good thing we still have the secret ballot so people like college educated women can say they're voting Hillary to the pollsters, but vote Trump. They might not like explaining to friends how they arrived at their vote despite all there was not to like ... because some people think it's already been established that Trump is the last person that would champion their causes.
I expect I get the news from roughly the same outlets you do. Cut through the editorializing every sentence, but I mostly read the NYT, WaPo, Politico, WSJ, IBD, Washington examiner. Then a little time on the opinion pages of many dozens of outlets and syndicated columnists on twitter and the conservative blogosphere. And this thread to hear what people who REALLY think differently from me rationalize their choices and thoughts. Just look at the preponderance of my links here in this thread using the search function if you have any doubts.
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The Trump Admin cannot be happy with the interview that Carter Page just gave to Chris Hayes tonight.
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This "Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak" fellow sounds like a really chatty guy.
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But it was totally in his capacity as a senator!
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uh, of course he used campaign funds to attend the RNC.
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On March 03 2017 14:13 Introvert wrote:uh, of course he used campaign funds to attend the RNC. Haha, no shit! Can you imagine the headlines if Sessions used US Gov't funds to go to the RNC? "SENATOR SESSIONS PARTIES ON FEDERAL DIME!"
#moarfakenews.
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