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On February 06 2017 00:06 farvacola wrote:

Obama was Deporter in Chief, so try harder, genius.

On February 06 2017 00:17 biology]major wrote:


I'm glad he was, but I think we should really focus more on the peso. Once it's value gets high enough no one will want to come to the USA. In fact I think people might actually start immigrating to Mexico illegally!

On February 06 2017 00:06 farvacola wrote:

Obama was Deporter in Chief, so try harder, genius.

On February 05 2017 23:51 biology]major wrote:
Is that what dems mean when they keep saying "immigration reform" as a nebulous term that no one understands? To ignore our immigration process and it's weaknesses and to help other countries become great again so they don't even want to come to thtenUSA? Genius!

On February 06 2017 00:36 Sermokala wrote:

You can't seriously mean this. Immigration reform means to reform the immigration process. Its the only thing government an reform in regards to immigration. You reference it as something bad that the government should reform and list reasons why it should be reformed in the very next sentence.

On February 05 2017 23:49 a_flayer wrote:


Regarding increasing radicalization: exactly the same can be said for doing things such as invading Iraq, droning & terrorizing families in Afghanistan, funding the "moderate" opposition in Syria, as well as NSA-hacking that resulted in a complete internet blackout (which was likely blamed on Assad by that same opposition), weaponizing extremist regimes that bomb the entire infrastructure of neighbouring countries (like in Yemen) whilst fuelling Wahhabi propaganda in other regions at the same time, or doing things such as pretending to vaccinate people as a cover-up to find terrorists (which fuels & legitimises the already radical conspiracy theories that float around in the Middle East).

However, arguments such as "run[ning] the risk of stemming more radicalisation" didn't stop previous administrations from doing exactly these things with generally widespread support from both sides of the political aisle. To pretend that the so-called Muslim ban (which very clearly and obviously targets countries with ISIS presence, and has nothing to do with Trump's financial interests, or even Muslims in general) is somehow 'too much' or 'not in line with American values' is a fucking joke. The United States has been a joke for a long time, and it's extremist punchline after a several decades long build-up is Trump.

On February 06 2017 00:50 biology]major wrote:


"immigration reform means to reform the immigration process". Thanks for that clarification. I was referring to my distaste of policitians using that term whenever any question about immigration came up. No specifics, no solutions, just "comprehensive immigration reform". So I interpret it as lip service, that was one of the best things about Trump's run. He never said it, and just talked about a wall instead. Atleast a solution was proposed.

On February 06 2017 00:01 biology]major wrote:


Im sure stories of their family members being killed in random drone strikes or propaganda from ISIS don't really do it for them. They really need us to declare radical Islam an enemy before they all of a sudden decide to join ISIS.

On February 06 2017 00:19 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:

haha when Trump finally finishes the wall it will be Americans climbing over it due to him having fucked up the dollar

Donald Trump’s defense of Vladimir Putin’s homicidal history isn’t sitting well with fellow Republicans.

Three Republican senators and several other conservatives were quick to condemn or distance themselves from the president seeming to put Putin on equal standing with the United States when it comes to killing.

In a pre-taped Fox interview partially released on Saturday and set to air in full during the Super Bowl pre-game show, Bill O’Reilly pressed Trump on his warm relationship with Putin.

Trump stressed that stronger U.S.- Russia ties could help defeat the Islamic State.

But “Putin’s a killer,” O’Reilly said.

“You got a lot of killers,” Trump shot back. “What, you think our country’s so innocent?”

Trump’s repeated expressions of admiration for Putin was already a sore spot for Republicans who consider the Russian leader a threat to the post-WWII global order. The president's latest statement has put the breach right back in the spotlight.

“He’s a thug,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said of Putin on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “The Russians annexed Crimea, invaded Ukraine and messed around in our elections. No, I don’t think there’s any equivalency between the way the Russians conduct themselves and the way the United States does.”

When host Jake Tapper responded that Republicans would have been in revolt if Barack Obama said something similar, McConnell, who’s made a point of not harshly criticizing Trump, made clear his opinion on the matter.

“I’m not going to critique the president’s every utterance," the Senate leader said. "But I do think America is exceptional, America is different. We don’t operate in any way the way the Russians do. I think there’s a clear distinction here that all Americans understand and I would not have characterized it that way.”

Was McConnell confident that Trump understood? Tapper asked. “I obviously don’t see this issue the same way he does,” McConnell replied.

The Republican leader wasn’t alone in his discomfort.

“When has a Democratic political activists been poisoned by the GOP, or vice versa? We are not the same as #Putin,” Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), a Russia hawk, tweeted Sunday.