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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 09 2016 04:09 GMT
#121021
On November 09 2016 13:05 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:58 xDaunt wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:55 TheYango wrote:
Can someone who supports Trump give me a positive spin on why I should be okay with Christie and Gingrich being a part of his administration?

Trump is a political neophyte. At this point, I'm willing to give it a shot. Some of his surrogates, however, that have a very real shot at being part of his administration already have...less-than-stellar track records in government.

Because Christie, Gingrich, and Trump will all work with democrats to get shit done.


Just confirming that you're being sarcastic, right?

"Gingrich" and "work with democrats" seem like they don't go together at all.

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On November 09 2016 13:05 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Wasn't Gingrich the entire architect behind the Contract With America that initiated obstructionism and not working with Democrats?

Yes.

And Gingrich got a lot done with Clinton at the expense of liberal democrats in Congress.

Regardless, the key is Trump. Like I have been saying for a year or so, Trump is going to make deals in Washington to get things done. He will give things up to get what he really wants. There's going to be a return to more "bipartisan" normalcy under Trump.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5082 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 04:09:27
November 09 2016 04:09 GMT
#121022
On November 09 2016 13:07 BigFan wrote:
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On November 09 2016 13:05 Clonester wrote:
On November 09 2016 13:05 BigFan wrote:
On November 09 2016 13:04 StarStruck wrote:
CBC 191 to 172 for Clinton.

wth what's with this jump? There wasn't any map change. How did she change 60 seats all of a sudden? ;;


California.

is California really 60 seats? That's nuts!


55 votes. Always go D, and she's gonna get a LOT of useless votes in the state.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Hexe
Profile Joined August 2014
United States332 Posts
November 09 2016 04:09 GMT
#121023
On November 09 2016 13:07 Wolfstan wrote:
TYT is ranting fucking hard right now. Holy shit

Will there be highlights tomorrow?
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6344 Posts
November 09 2016 04:09 GMT
#121024
On November 09 2016 13:07 Wolfstan wrote:
TYT is ranting fucking hard right now. Holy shit

Alex Jones' livestream is just listing people that are going to jail.
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 04:09:58
November 09 2016 04:09 GMT
#121025
On November 09 2016 13:07 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:05 Clonester wrote:
On November 09 2016 13:05 BigFan wrote:
On November 09 2016 13:04 StarStruck wrote:
CBC 191 to 172 for Clinton.

wth what's with this jump? There wasn't any map change. How did she change 60 seats all of a sudden? ;;


California.

is California really 60 seats? That's nuts!

it's 55 according to google
Oregon was called at the same time which is another 7 though
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 09 2016 04:09 GMT
#121026
Fair points, just never realized that California had so many seats.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 04:09 GMT
#121027
I don't think you guys are giving it enough credit. It's extremely close right now.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6344 Posts
November 09 2016 04:09 GMT
#121028
Trump has taken Utah
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 09 2016 04:09 GMT
#121029
On November 09 2016 13:09 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
wish more people would come move to california and become proper californian libtards

I totally would if I had the economic resources to move. Issue with living in KY is that you can't get a decent enough job to build up enough economic capital to actually leave the area.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 09 2016 04:10 GMT
#121030
I do not get where you're getting those numbers from.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 09 2016 04:10 GMT
#121031
On November 09 2016 13:09 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:07 Wolfstan wrote:
TYT is ranting fucking hard right now. Holy shit

Alex Jones' livestream is just listing people that are going to jail.

Hahahaha, I'd expect nothing less from Alex the Great.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 09 2016 04:10 GMT
#121032
On November 09 2016 13:09 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
wish more people would come move to california and become proper californian libtards


No, 10% of libtard Californians should move to North Carolina or Florida. Please

User was temp banned for this post.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 09 2016 04:11 GMT
#121033
On my drive home (at long last) I was looking for what I could use as my personal description of what's happening here. Ultimately, I came up with "the fuck-you to Hillary and the establishment that I was not willing to risk my own skin to send."

Trump is now favored to win, and we are favored to see four very interesting years. If that is what happens, I really hope that at the very least the Democrats understand exactly why it is that this happened. Their attitude towards this was absolutely not acceptable.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5082 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 04:12:14
November 09 2016 04:11 GMT
#121034
Was part of this Obamacare? It has to be right?

Obama has presided over a Democratic collapse at the local, state, and now maybe national level? People voted for Barack Obama, not his progressive vision.

And they hate Hillary. Let's not forget that.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
November 09 2016 04:11 GMT
#121035
Or they could just make it so it isn't winner-takes all. Allocate electorates based on % of popular vote per state
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2016 04:12 GMT
#121036
Cenk on TYT just made a profound point about the media and Clinton campaign about attacking Trump. All voters heard was he is not a politician. That and the mainstream media is on it's deathbed.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 09 2016 04:12 GMT
#121037
On November 09 2016 13:09 xDaunt wrote:
Regardless, the key is Trump. Like I have been saying for a year or so, Trump is going to make deals in Washington to get things done. He will give things up to get what he really wants. There's going to be a return to more "bipartisan" normalcy under Trump.

I'm just praying what you say is true.
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 09 2016 04:12 GMT
#121038
On November 09 2016 12:59 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 12:53 Danglars wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:48 xDaunt wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:47 Clonester wrote:
NYTimes closes Ohio and predicts a +8% for Trump.
Seriously, from +3% for Obama...

Hillary Clinton is the worst candidate since 30 years.

Which was also pointed out repeatedly in this thread for over a year, and which was also vehemently denied.

We had quote chains at hundreds of words, not that she was some close call, but she was clearly a good candidate that just had enough s*** thrown at her by Republicans that tarnished her name somewhat. I'm wondering if there's anybody on the fence that will finally conclude that in THIS close of a race, something was more wrong with their girl than truthless scandals and an uninformed populace.

My more nuanced position was that it was stupid to nominate someone who had been the target of a 20 year smear campaign, regardless of the whether or no the the accusations were true. Made the general election needlessly hard.

It's not even a more nuanced position. Her record was Hillary Clinton pulling a smear campaign on Hillary Clinton. Her conduct contained enough unforced errors to give the Jr High Reporting Team an easy job doing a 1 year reporting campaign on substantial accusations. I mean, where's the nuance between saying the accusations wouldn't have mattered and calling attention to an alleged smear campaign over decades, versus saying the accusations mattered on substance and the supposed targeting is pretty laughable given just how transparent her character has been.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
November 09 2016 04:12 GMT
#121039
On November 09 2016 13:10 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:09 zeo wrote:
On November 09 2016 13:07 Wolfstan wrote:
TYT is ranting fucking hard right now. Holy shit

Alex Jones' livestream is just listing people that are going to jail.

Hahahaha, I'd expect nothing less from Alex the Great.


If Trump wins, even that nutjob is a hero.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
November 09 2016 04:12 GMT
#121040
Burn it down... burn it down...

Anyway if there's any semblance of democracy left in 4 years let's hope the DNC chooses a candidate that's not a complete scumbag.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
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