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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
November 09 2016 04:02 GMT
#120981
On November 09 2016 13:00 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Pennsylvania now within 2% with 77% reporting. Down from a 13% deficit at 25%~.


NYTimes says Pennsylvania is going for Trump longer ago. Just look at what still needs to be counted, the rural areas edge out the 2 cities just a little bit and that should be enough.
Wisconson and Michigan follow, Trump will be a over 300 president.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46221 Posts
November 09 2016 04:02 GMT
#120982
On November 09 2016 12:58 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 12:55 TheYango wrote:
Can someone who supports Trump give me a positive spin on why I should be okay with Christie and Gingrich being a part of his administration?

Trump is a political neophyte. At this point, I'm willing to give it a shot. Some of his surrogates, however, that have a very real shot at being part of his administration already have...less-than-stellar track records in government.

Because Christie, Gingrich, and Trump will all work with democrats to get shit done.


Just confirming that you're being sarcastic, right?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
November 09 2016 04:02 GMT
#120983
On November 09 2016 13:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
God I love America


Hell yeah best country on earth
Question.?
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
November 09 2016 04:02 GMT
#120984
On November 09 2016 12:54 SoSexy wrote:
How will you guys deal with this in 6 months, when you will notice the world hasn't ended?

I'll thank my lucky stars. I don't really give a damn about being right about this election... and honestly the odds are probably a lot better than 50/50 that a Trump presidency isn't completely catastrophic for the entire world in the short term. Perhaps the decline of the USA is accelerated by a decade or two but that was coming anyway.

In other words, I'll feel completely fine about my doubts about a Trump presidency even if nothing does go wrong. Even if it doesn't happen there is certainly a significant likelihood from my current perspective that it will happen. + Show Spoiler +
In the same way as Nate Silver will feel fine about his predictions for this election, even though he predicted there was some possibility of a clear Clinton win.


tl;dr I feel a lot more strongly about my preference for the world not going to shit, than being able to say "I was right".
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 09 2016 04:02 GMT
#120985
On November 09 2016 12:54 blade55555 wrote:
I know a majority of TL will disagree and hate this result, but this is for the best. Out of the two candidates we are choosing the least corrupt out of the two.

Originally I wasn't even going to vote as both candidates were so shitty. Then I did legit research, not doing research on biased sites like fox news/CNN/MSN/etc. Not listening to the Media, this site, reddit and definitely not my Facebook, but actually looking into them. Reading the DNC emails, I will never understand how people can vote for Hillary. If the leaks where Trump cheated his way into the Primary, had CNN paid off to ask specific questions to his opponent, I would vote Hillary 100%. But that's not what happened, instead we got one of, if not the most corrupt candidate the US has ever had, Hillary as his opponent.


I hope Trump is good, don't know if he will actually be a good president or not, but I know he's better than Hillary will ever be. So I hope Trump wins tonight, I know it's looking good, but until it's 100% it's not over.


The guy has gone bankrupt so many times and has been part of many pyramid schemes. He has gotten away with so much shit. They're both terrible and you're fellow Americans put them both in position to run your country.

Based off what has been said it sounds like Trump is ready to run your country into the ground.
Xialos
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada508 Posts
November 09 2016 04:03 GMT
#120986
On November 09 2016 13:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:


AHAHAHA. I'm building a wall. Who wants to help?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 09 2016 04:03 GMT
#120987
On November 09 2016 13:02 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:00 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Pennsylvania now within 2% with 77% reporting. Down from a 13% deficit at 25%~.


NYTimes says Pennsylvania is going for Trump longer ago. Just look at what still needs to be counted, the rural areas edge out the 2 cities just a little bit and that should be enough.
Wisconson and Michigan follow, Trump will be a over 300 president.

That is unbelievable. I thought it was possible that he could win, though unlikely. But an actual #trumpslide in the electoral college? No way.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 09 2016 04:03 GMT
#120988
On November 09 2016 13:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/Gizmodo/status/796199689356005377

turns out it will be Canada building the wall
Neosteel Enthusiast
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 09 2016 04:03 GMT
#120989
On November 09 2016 13:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 12:58 xDaunt wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:55 TheYango wrote:
Can someone who supports Trump give me a positive spin on why I should be okay with Christie and Gingrich being a part of his administration?

Trump is a political neophyte. At this point, I'm willing to give it a shot. Some of his surrogates, however, that have a very real shot at being part of his administration already have...less-than-stellar track records in government.

Because Christie, Gingrich, and Trump will all work with democrats to get shit done.


Just confirming that you're being sarcastic, right?

Nope.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 09 2016 04:03 GMT
#120990
On November 09 2016 13:02 Danglars wrote:
My state called within two minutes of polls being closed.

my libertarian vote apparently didnt count for much. =(
RealityIsKing
Profile Joined August 2016
613 Posts
November 09 2016 04:03 GMT
#120991
On November 09 2016 13:02 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 12:54 blade55555 wrote:
I know a majority of TL will disagree and hate this result, but this is for the best. Out of the two candidates we are choosing the least corrupt out of the two.

Originally I wasn't even going to vote as both candidates were so shitty. Then I did legit research, not doing research on biased sites like fox news/CNN/MSN/etc. Not listening to the Media, this site, reddit and definitely not my Facebook, but actually looking into them. Reading the DNC emails, I will never understand how people can vote for Hillary. If the leaks where Trump cheated his way into the Primary, had CNN paid off to ask specific questions to his opponent, I would vote Hillary 100%. But that's not what happened, instead we got one of, if not the most corrupt candidate the US has ever had, Hillary as his opponent.


I hope Trump is good, don't know if he will actually be a good president or not, but I know he's better than Hillary will ever be. So I hope Trump wins tonight, I know it's looking good, but until it's 100% it's not over.


The guy has gone bankrupt so many times and has been part of many pyramid schemes. He has gotten away with so much shit. They're both terrible and you're fellow Americans put them both in position to run your country.

Based off what has been said it sounds like Trump is ready to run your country into the ground.


Trump is a player that knows how to play the game properly.

He will reframe his strategy different with different rules.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5001 Posts
November 09 2016 04:03 GMT
#120992
Look at this WI senate stomping. Lordy.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 09 2016 04:04 GMT
#120993
On November 09 2016 13:02 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
God I love America


Hell yeah best country on earth


what makes it the best country?
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
November 09 2016 04:04 GMT
#120994
From the New York Times (so you know they don't have Trump bias /s)

[image loading]

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 09 2016 04:04 GMT
#120995
CBC 191 to 172 for Clinton.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 09 2016 04:04 GMT
#120996
On November 09 2016 12:54 blade55555 wrote:
I know a majority of TL will disagree and hate this result, but this is for the best. Out of the two candidates we are choosing the least corrupt out of the two.

Originally I wasn't even going to vote as both candidates were so shitty. Then I did legit research, not doing research on biased sites like fox news/CNN/MSN/etc. Not listening to the Media, this site, reddit and definitely not my Facebook, but actually looking into them. Reading the DNC emails, I will never understand how people can vote for Hillary. If the leaks where Trump cheated his way into the Primary, had CNN paid off to ask specific questions to his opponent, I would vote Hillary 100%. But that's not what happened, instead we got one of, if not the most corrupt candidate the US has ever had, Hillary as his opponent.


I hope Trump is good, don't know if he will actually be a good president or not, but I know he's better than Hillary will ever be. So I hope Trump wins tonight, I know it's looking good, but until it's 100% it's not over.

That is incredibly biased research. Any DNC email that makes its way to you will show Hillary in a negative light by selection.

I am disappointed that Hillary was able to clear out the Democratic primary before it even started. Maybe she could have ended up losing the primary to Biden or something.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
November 09 2016 04:04 GMT
#120997
#Skill

On July 07 2016 09:18 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 09:16 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 07 2016 09:06 kapibara-san wrote:
@GH

i feel like both have a pretty solid chance of beating trump. bernie maybe even higher, but in my eyes its just a question of who wins by a bigger margin, which isn't that meaningful. i think both would win, and the difference in chance is not significant enough to matter.

though on a meta note, your continued repeated thoughts about bernie are still pretty off-putting to me. on the one hand, most of what's going on in this thread is just inconsequential musing, but on the other, this is the type of musing that's among what i'm least interested in. bernie has no chance this year barring some sort of extreme circumstances involving hillary not being able to run anymore.



Personally I think people are underestimating how much Trump could drive republican turnout against Hillary and overestimating how well Hillary will do to assuage concerns about her among the left and turn people out against Trump. But I can save those conversations for delegates who actually have influence over the outcome rather than here.


I think a lot of people are in for a big surprise in November when Trump destroys her in the general election.



That makes me 3 for 0 at predicting the last 3 presidential elections
CAPSLOCKED
Profile Joined April 2011
563 Posts
November 09 2016 04:04 GMT
#120998
Whether he closes this out or not it is refreshing to see so many people reject the media's 24/7 "muh nukes" "muh stalin" "muh hitler" fear mongering. It's a global movement folks!

I dearly hope the rest of europe takes the dagger off their wrists and sticks it in the globalists' hearts. France referendum when?!
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2016 04:04 GMT
#120999
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 09 2016 04:05 GMT
#121000
On November 09 2016 13:03 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:58 xDaunt wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:55 TheYango wrote:
Can someone who supports Trump give me a positive spin on why I should be okay with Christie and Gingrich being a part of his administration?

Trump is a political neophyte. At this point, I'm willing to give it a shot. Some of his surrogates, however, that have a very real shot at being part of his administration already have...less-than-stellar track records in government.

Because Christie, Gingrich, and Trump will all work with democrats to get shit done.


Just confirming that you're being sarcastic, right?

Nope.


Wasn't Gingrich the entire architect behind the Contract With America that initiated obstructionism and not working with Democrats? Am I misremembering this?
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