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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6313 Posts
November 09 2016 03:58 GMT
#120961
Look at these graphs. That volatility is crazy.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-09/several-markets-are-having-their-biggest-moves-since-brexit?cmpid=socialflow-facebook-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 09 2016 03:58 GMT
#120962
On November 09 2016 12:55 TheYango wrote:
Can someone who supports Trump give me a positive spin on why I should be okay with Christie and Gingrich being a part of his administration?

Trump is a political neophyte. At this point, I'm willing to give it a shot. Some of his surrogates, however, that have a very real shot at being part of his administration already have...less-than-stellar track records in government.

Because Christie, Gingrich, and Trump will all work with democrats to get shit done.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 03:58 GMT
#120963
On November 09 2016 12:57 Introvert wrote:
I still think CA is going to come in big for Hillary, this could be another electoral college classic. I think she'll win the popular vote.


Want to put a 30 day ban on the line for it? Me vs you?
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
November 09 2016 03:58 GMT
#120964
On November 09 2016 12:55 Netscape9 wrote:
Florida was just called for Trump. Virginia narrowly went to Hillary though.


Well Trump seems to win PA, Mich. and Wisc or at least has a better shot then Clinton to do so.
She needs all 3 states, he needs one of them. He will get at least 2 of them, maybe even 3.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
November 09 2016 03:58 GMT
#120965
On November 09 2016 12:57 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 12:57 Grettin wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:53 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Wasn't there some betting website that already paid out the people who bet on Hillary? What happened to that? Are they bankrupt now?


Also want to know.

Mine:

[image loading]

paddypower paid out


oh it did? lmfao
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 03:59:16
November 09 2016 03:58 GMT
#120966
On November 09 2016 12:55 TheYango wrote:
Can someone who supports Trump give me a positive spin on why I should be okay with Christie and Gingrich being a part of his administration?

Trump is a political neophyte. At this point, I'm willing to give it a shot. Some of his surrogates that have a very real shot at being part of his administration already have...less-than-stellar track records in government.


Not to mention Trump's policies are not anti-establishment.

The track-record of his policies is tried and disastrous.

People talk about corruption and lying. Mostly, these things are baseless, but more importantly, they just don't matter.


We just re-elected George W. Bush. But now he's got a really shitty personality that our allies hate, and has a weird thing with Russia.
We're fucked. It isn't insta-lose, world ends. It's 4-8 years of terrible economics and abrasive foreign-policy.

But at least he'll "tell it like it is".

User was warned for this post
Big water
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46393 Posts
November 09 2016 03:58 GMT
#120967
On November 09 2016 12:57 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Hopefully the FBI can investigate Hillary properly once Obama is out of office.


I don't know what that means... the past ten investigations haven't been proper?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 04:00:12
November 09 2016 03:58 GMT
#120968
which means that either it goes magically amazing like they say it will, or it will crash horribly and dems take sweeping majorities in 2018 and are poised to make good gains in 2020 ala 2010 which is why the repubs have their house till 2020 gov elections.

Dems are doing what repubs did during obama, diverting all resources for 2020 gov races to secure a house majority now.

and hopefully being less corrupt in the process. The RNC at least allowed for the free democratic primary process, but unfortunately that allowed for a donald trump. The DNC might have had Bernie if it wasnt so corrupt.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 03:59:23
November 09 2016 03:58 GMT
#120969
Whatever black sorcery the Cubs used to win the World Series had a price.
+ Show Spoiler +

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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
November 09 2016 03:58 GMT
#120970
On November 09 2016 12:57 FiWiFaKi wrote:
RealityIsKing.

Man, I'm happy you're on my side, but man, you give us Trump guys here a really bad rep.

I don't' think Trump would ever have a good rep here mate
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 09 2016 03:59 GMT
#120971
On November 09 2016 12:53 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 12:48 xDaunt wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:47 Clonester wrote:
NYTimes closes Ohio and predicts a +8% for Trump.
Seriously, from +3% for Obama...

Hillary Clinton is the worst candidate since 30 years.

Which was also pointed out repeatedly in this thread for over a year, and which was also vehemently denied.

We had quote chains at hundreds of words, not that she was some close call, but she was clearly a good candidate that just had enough s*** thrown at her by Republicans that tarnished her name somewhat. I'm wondering if there's anybody on the fence that will finally conclude that in THIS close of a race, something was more wrong with their girl than truthless scandals and an uninformed populace.

My more nuanced position was that it was stupid to nominate someone who had been the target of a 20 year smear campaign, regardless of the whether or no the the accusations were true. Made the general election needlessly hard.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5027 Posts
November 09 2016 03:59 GMT
#120972
On November 09 2016 12:58 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 12:57 Introvert wrote:
I still think CA is going to come in big for Hillary, this could be another electoral college classic. I think she'll win the popular vote.


Want to put a 30 day ban on the line for it? Me vs you?


I'm generally not a bettor, and I'm not rooting for Hillary. Or Trump. But maybe that doesn't matter?

If he wins I kinda want to enjoy liberal tears.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 09 2016 04:00 GMT
#120973
On November 09 2016 12:54 blade55555 wrote:
I know a majority of TL will disagree and hate this result, but this is for the best. Out of the two candidates we are choosing the least corrupt out of the two.

Originally I wasn't even going to vote as both candidates were so shitty. Then I did legit research, not doing research on biased sites like fox news/CNN/MSN/etc. Not listening to the Media, this site, reddit and definitely not my Facebook, but actually looking into them. Reading the DNC emails, I will never understand how people can vote for Hillary. If the leaks where Trump cheated his way into the Primary, had CNN paid off to ask specific questions to his opponent, I would vote Hillary 100%. But that's not what happened, instead we got one of, if not the most corrupt candidate the US has ever had, Hillary as his opponent.


I hope Trump is good, don't know if he will actually be a good president or not, but I know he's better than Hillary will ever be. So I hope Trump wins tonight, I know it's looking good, but until it's 100% it's not over.

It's practically thread heresy to say the race is legitimately a close least-worse choice between two very bad candidates. Most of her defenders say she's objectively better than Trump on a decent margin.

We got somebody that made Trump look good.

And right now it looks like Michigan and Wisconsin agree.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
November 09 2016 04:00 GMT
#120974
God I love America
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 09 2016 04:00 GMT
#120975
Pennsylvania now within 2% with 77% reporting. Down from a 13% deficit at 25%~.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 09 2016 04:00 GMT
#120976
On November 09 2016 12:54 blade55555 wrote:
I know a majority of TL will disagree and hate this result, but this is for the best. Out of the two candidates we are choosing the least corrupt out of the two.

Originally I wasn't even going to vote as both candidates were so shitty. Then I did legit research, not doing research on biased sites like fox news/CNN/MSN/etc. Not listening to the Media, this site, reddit and definitely not my Facebook, but actually looking into them. Reading the DNC emails, I will never understand how people can vote for Hillary. If the leaks where Trump cheated his way into the Primary, had CNN paid off to ask specific questions to his opponent, I would vote Hillary 100%. But that's not what happened, instead we got one of, if not the most corrupt candidate the US has ever had, Hillary as his opponent.


I hope Trump is good, don't know if he will actually be a good president or not, but I know he's better than Hillary will ever be. So I hope Trump wins tonight, I know it's looking good, but until it's 100% it's not over.


Is it not true that trump is filling his cabinet with idiots?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 09 2016 04:00 GMT
#120977
On November 09 2016 12:58 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 12:55 TheYango wrote:
Can someone who supports Trump give me a positive spin on why I should be okay with Christie and Gingrich being a part of his administration?

Trump is a political neophyte. At this point, I'm willing to give it a shot. Some of his surrogates, however, that have a very real shot at being part of his administration already have...less-than-stellar track records in government.

Because Christie, Gingrich, and Trump will all work with democrats to get shit done.

I thought Christie is politically dead no matter if Clinton or Trump wins at this point with bridge scandal confirmed and all?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2016 04:00 GMT
#120978
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2016 04:01 GMT
#120979
Clinton takes California, Hawaii, Oregon, and Washington state.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 09 2016 04:02 GMT
#120980
My state called within two minutes of polls being closed.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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