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On November 01 2016 04:46 KwarK wrote:

Ah, you must be here on a cultural exchange from the universe in which he wasn't hounded for 8 years about his national origins.

DNC interim chairwoman passed debate questions along to Clinton campaign

Interim Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Donna Brazile is coming under fire Monday after a newly released WikiLeaks email indicated she gave Hillary Clinton’s team an explicit heads-up about debate questions last spring.

In one exchange, released in Monday’s batch of emails from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s account, Brazile apparently wrote to Podesta ahead of the March 6 Democratic debate in Flint, Mich.

“One of the questions directed to HRC tomorrow is from a woman with a rash,” the subject line of the email read. It continued: “Her family has lead poison and she will ask what, if anything, will Hillary do as president to help the ppl [sic] of Flint.”

And in a March 12 email to Clinton campaign communications director Jennifer Palmieri, Brazile wrote: “From time to time I get the questions in advance.”

The email included the text of what looked like a question about the death penalty, presumably for a CNN town hall Clinton was doing the following day. “I’ll send a few more,” Brazile said.

In a statement, CNN denied providing Brazile with any advance debate questions or preparation material and noted that she had officially resigned as a CNN contributor as of Oct. 14.

“We are completely uncomfortable with what we have learned about her interactions with the Clinton campaign while she was a CNN contributor,” CNN’s statement read.

On November 01 2016 04:59 GoTuNk! wrote:


You believe the government should get bigger and bigger? when does it stop?

GreenHorizons is literally campaigning for an anti-science nut case who believes the internet could cause cancer. Not because he's stupid, not because he's a sheep, and not because he's brainwashed (although I am simply assuming these things), but he is willing to literally go against all sense and logic just because he hates Hillary. He's smarter than that--but he is blinded by hate. And so are a lot of Hillary haters.

On November 01 2016 05:08 GreenHorizons wrote:

Article

Even CNN thinks the actions of Clinton's minions are too much. Of course the DNC is cool with it though.

On November 01 2016 05:25 WolfintheSheep wrote:

Same article Sanders' press secretary says they were in regular contact with Brazile as well.

On November 01 2016 05:06 cLutZ wrote:

Which is his conspiratorial crazies subset. Its similar to the Hillary Clinton health issues allegations (before she publicly collapsed). There is no Obama analogy to the Clinton foundation, Whitewater, email-craziness, Terry McAuliffe, etc. Unless you think that right wingers are an order of magnitude more motivated at investigating Clinton than Obama there is no explanation other than his objective level of corruption being lower.

The white nationalist who has sponsored pro-Trump robocalls throughout the election cycle unveiled a new campaign in Utah intended to convince voters there that conservative independent candidate Evan McMullin is secretly gay.

The robocall features William Daniel Johnson, a Los Angeles-based attorney and leader of the white nationalist American Freedom Party (AFP), telling Utahans that he believes “Evan is a closet homosexual.”

The script of the robocall says:

Hello, My name is William Johnson. I am a farmer and a white nationalist. I make this call against Evan McMullin and in support of Donald Trump. Evan McMullin is an open borders, amnesty supporter. Evan has two mommies. His mother is a lesbian, married to another woman. Evan is okay with that. Indeed, Evan supports the Supreme Court ruling legalizing gay marriage. Evan is over 40 years old and is not married and doesn’t even have a girlfriend. I believe Evan is a closet homosexual. Don’t vote for Evan McMullin. Vote for Donald Trump. He will respect all women and be a president we can all be proud of. I paid for this ad through the American National super-PAC.

During the primary, Johnson’s super-PAC sponsored pro-Trump robocalls that said, “We don’t need Muslims. We need smart, well-educated white people.” Another robocall featured a woman identifying herself as a member of the AFP and saying, “I am voting for Donald Trump because he will not only be presidential, he will put America first. Furthermore, he will respect all women and will help preserve Western civilization.”

Trump has disavowed Johnson’s robocalls, but he said that they were attributable to people being justifiably angry.

Johnson was also chosen to be a delegate for the Trump campaign. “I can be a white nationalist and be a strong supporter of Donald Trump and be a good example to everybody,” he told Mother Jones at the time. The Trump campaign chalked his selection up to a “database error” and removed him from that role after MoJo broke the story.

He has expressed a desire to create “a white ethno-state” since “that’s the only way western civilization and the white race will survive.” The AFP, of which Johnson is the chair, was “initially established by racist Southern California skinheads,” and “aims to deport immigrants and return the United States to white rule,” according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

McMullin is currently polling in second place behind Trump in Utah, according to an RCP average of recent polls.

The McMullin campaign did not immediately return a request for comment

On November 01 2016 05:14 Sermokala wrote:

It stops when we're living in a world of milk and honey.

You can't make an argument for stopping the expansion of government. You can make an argument for screwtinizeing the size of the expansions and for examining old expansions for their currnet value. Ie getting rid of some brewing laws beacuse technology is really good on that now.

We can't live in a world of pre obamacare anymore beacuse it was literaly total shit. You can't justify insurance companies being able to kick off insurance anyone who gets "pre existing condidions" because thats total shit and we know that now.

People that shield Hillarys clear problems as a candidate as "you're only saying that because shes a woman" piss me off. Shes gotten the same scrutiny as any man would. especially as one that clearly was in the national stage for as long as she has. You're literally ruining the conversation by calling everyone that disagrees with you as sexist off the bat. That doesn't work for any argument

I can say that freeing the slaves after the civil war was the worst thing done to black people sense people decided to enslave them. That doesn't automatically make me a racist. I think that it was the worst thing done because there wasn't an effort made to integrate them into the economy and they were automatically ushered into the poor class of the nation at a level worse then immigrants.

On November 01 2016 05:11 Thieving Magpie wrote:
When I first heard about Bernie Sanders jumping into the primary I was super excited. Told my friends, told some coworkers, shared everyone. And I was ready to jump on the hype train for Bernie the same way I did for Obama in 08.

But then the debates happened. Then the interviews happened. Then I watched him crumble into so much water soaked newspaper that I just could not even come close to defending him.

On the flip side Hillary just become so much more impressive for me with each passing week. Even her supposed scandals are barely even impressive as scandals. She gets blamed for Iraq as if it was her plan to invade it. She gets blamed for emails other people send. She gets blamed for Benghazi when attacked embassies are actually fairly plentiful under most other administrations. Over and over the worse things people throw at her are things other people have done. Pretty much anything Bush, Bill, or Obama was responsible for gets redirected to Hillary. You can't help but feel there's a reason Bernie got the white male vote down, you can't help but feel that all these misogynists are coming out the wood work to project hate at anything and everything Hillary does much like the xenophobes did for Obama.

For the most part, it is clear to me why a predominantly male website like this will have difficulties with Hillary. Why Reddit will have difficulties with Hillary. It doesn't matter how many people vote for her, how many things she changes, or how many people she saves. There's nothing they can do to change the actual problem they have with her--and that's she's a her and not a him. I mean, seriously, one of her employees emailed a risotto recipe and that was considered "scandal" worthy. We have an email of DWS telling her employees not to do shady things, and we consider that a Hillary scandal. There is NOTHING Hillary can do to change the minds of people who wants to believe despite lack of evidence that Hillary did anything right.

GreenHorizons is literally campaigning for an anti-science nut case who believes the internet could cause cancer. Not because he's stupid, not because he's a sheep, and not because he's brainwashed (although I am simply assuming these things), but he is willing to literally go against all sense and logic just because he hates Hillary. He's smarter than that--but he is blinded by hate. And so are a lot of Hillary haters.

On November 01 2016 06:00 Thieving Magpie wrote:


A.) Show me what she's done wrong that is somehow worse than what everyone else has done? So far its emails other people send, a husband whose sexual escapades are popular, and a record of siding mostly with the status quo of democrats. Where in that is physical evidence of her doing something scandalous? What would you call attacking someone's legitimacy without evidence against them? How many people have attacked other politicians they had no evidence against? How many politicians have you publicly attacked on a forum who has done nothing wrong? If the answer is none but Hillary then there is a distinct possibility we know the reasons you're attacking her. Its the same with Obama.

B.) Reparations is actually something the government has actively not payed off since the freeing of the slaves. I can promise you that if we pay back reparations to all african americans in a grossed up lump sum that takes into account inflation--majority of blacks will be quickly taken out of poverty. They are only still poor not because they were freed, but because they were gypped by a government thinking too small supported by a people who has (for too long) been too white.

On November 01 2016 06:06 GreenHorizons wrote:


I'm not even going near the "it's because she's a woman" thing, but I'd point out "gypped" is a racist slur (albeit one of the most commonly accepted ones) so we probably should try not to use it here.

On November 01 2016 06:08 Rebs wrote:


How is gypped a racist slur ? Serious question, this is new to me. Is this like a Roma gypsy thing ?

Explained Jake Bowers, editor of Travellers Times, to British newspaper the Telegraph: “Gypped is an offensive word, it’s derived from Gypsy and it’s being used in the same context as a person might once have said they ‘jewed’ somebody if they did an underhand business transaction.”

On November 01 2016 06:01 Lazare1969 wrote:


Bernie did strongly in the primaries because many Democrats wanted a progressive presidential nominee, not because of some patriarchal conspiracy that you seem to be suggesting.

Hillary would not be having as much difficulty with parts of the Democratic base if she chose Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders as her running mate. Instead she chose the centrist Tim Kaine. Which is basically a big middle finger to all of those who campaigned for Bernie's progressive platform.