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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14047 Posts
October 18 2013 15:39 GMT
#10981
Why not? Pretty sure they have oil and thats all you need to go to war with someone. Then we can invade mexico and solve our ilegial immigration problem.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 15:58:50
October 18 2013 15:55 GMT
#10982
How would that solve our illegal immigration problem? Annex them and make them all American?
MstrJinbo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1251 Posts
October 18 2013 16:02 GMT
#10983
On October 19 2013 00:39 Sermokala wrote:
Why not? Pretty sure they have oil and thats all you need to go to war with someone. Then we can invade mexico and solve our ilegial immigration problem.


As has been said many times in the past, "Poor Mexico, so far from God and so close to the United States."
Scareb
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany173 Posts
October 18 2013 16:20 GMT
#10984
On October 19 2013 00:39 Sermokala wrote:
Why not? Pretty sure they have oil and thats all you need to go to war with someone. Then we can invade mexico and solve our ilegial immigration problem.

The US is in the next two to five years the biggest oil and natural gas producing country in the world.So you guys don't have to war for it anymore. Only to defend it. But Canada has enough for itself. So no war, no gg. ;-)
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 18 2013 16:26 GMT
#10985
Thank god. Could you imagine the horrors of the moose battalions crossing the border?
dude bro.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 18 2013 18:11 GMT
#10986
The GOP primary challenger to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) received an endorsement Friday from the Senate Conservatives Fund, a PAC founded by former Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.).

The endorsement of Kentucky businessman Matt Bevin escalates the effort by outside conservative groups to back primary challenges next year against those congressional lawmakers who finally voted for the bipartisan budget deal. On Thursday, the Senate Conservatives Fund, the Club for Growth and the Madison Project all endorsed Mississippi state Sen. Chris McDaniel, a primary challenger to Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.). The Madison Project had already endorsed Bevin.

McConnell himself helped craft the budget deal that left Obamacare virtually unscathed. The Senate Conservatives Fund also hammered him over a provision in the legislation boosting funding for the Olmsted Locks and Dam in Kentucky from $775 million to $2.9 billion.

"Matt Bevin is a true conservative who will fight to stop the massive spending, bailouts, and debt that are destroying our country," said Senate Conservatives Fund Director Matt Hoskins in a statement. "He is not afraid to stand up to the establishment and he will do what it takes to stop Obamacare. We know that winning this primary won't be easy. Mitch McConnell has the support of the entire Washington establishment and he will do anything to hold on to power. But if people in Kentucky and all across the country rise up and demand something better, we're confident Matt Bevin can win this race."


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 18:27:01
October 18 2013 18:26 GMT
#10987
Thomas S. Foley, who as speaker of the House sought to still the chamber’s rising tide of partisan combat for five years before it swept the Democratic majority, and Mr. Foley himself, out of office in 1994, died on Friday in Washington. He was 84.


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RIP Tom Foley. It's a rather strange parallel with partisanship and all.
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jeremycafe
Profile Joined March 2009
United States354 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 19:49:05
October 18 2013 19:08 GMT
#10988
you are confusing partisanship with bi-


Doh' Edited out my stupidity Thank you sir
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
October 18 2013 19:35 GMT
#10989
you are confusing partisanship with bi-
shikata ga nai
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 20:09:24
October 18 2013 20:09 GMT
#10990
On October 19 2013 03:11 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
The GOP primary challenger to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) received an endorsement Friday from the Senate Conservatives Fund, a PAC founded by former Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.).

The endorsement of Kentucky businessman Matt Bevin escalates the effort by outside conservative groups to back primary challenges next year against those congressional lawmakers who finally voted for the bipartisan budget deal. On Thursday, the Senate Conservatives Fund, the Club for Growth and the Madison Project all endorsed Mississippi state Sen. Chris McDaniel, a primary challenger to Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.). The Madison Project had already endorsed Bevin.

McConnell himself helped craft the budget deal that left Obamacare virtually unscathed. The Senate Conservatives Fund also hammered him over a provision in the legislation boosting funding for the Olmsted Locks and Dam in Kentucky from $775 million to $2.9 billion.

"Matt Bevin is a true conservative who will fight to stop the massive spending, bailouts, and debt that are destroying our country," said Senate Conservatives Fund Director Matt Hoskins in a statement. "He is not afraid to stand up to the establishment and he will do what it takes to stop Obamacare. We know that winning this primary won't be easy. Mitch McConnell has the support of the entire Washington establishment and he will do anything to hold on to power. But if people in Kentucky and all across the country rise up and demand something better, we're confident Matt Bevin can win this race."


Source


And so the war begins . Semi-sensible republicans vs the tea party. Whoever loses, democrats win.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 18 2013 20:16 GMT
#10991
If you can't beat them, sue them.

At least that's Tea Party Unity leader Rick Scarborough's thinking, who suggested Friday that conservative activists should take a page from campaigns against Big Tobacco and file a “class action lawsuit” against homosexuality.

The far-right pastor was responding to fellow tea partier and president of Americans for Truth Peter LaBarbera, who was arguing that Fox News should tell more "stories of happy men and women who have left the homosexual lifestyle" in the same way they highlight black conservatives.

"Peter, the whole issue of a class action lawsuit, you and I have talked about this a little bit," Scarborough said. "I just wonder if you’ve explored that, talked to anyone about it. Obviously, statistically now even the Centers for Disease Control verifies that homosexuality much more likely leads to AIDS than smoking leads to cancer.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
October 18 2013 20:21 GMT
#10992
He should be looking into expanding the class action lawsuit against anyone practising sex without the contraceptives he's trying to keep from them.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 18 2013 20:23 GMT
#10993
Please tell me I'm not the only one watching MSNBC, it's Klayman versus Martin Bashir.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23469 Posts
October 18 2013 20:48 GMT
#10994
I don't know what's funnier that Arnold Schwarzenegger is petitioning to to amend the constitution so he can run for president, or that I would be more likely to vote for him than any of the other potential Republican candidates to date...

I would love to see him and Christie debating with the Tea Party loons... hahaha


Source
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
October 18 2013 20:57 GMT
#10995
On October 19 2013 05:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
I don't know what's funnier that Arnold Schwarzenegger is petitioning to to amend the constitution so he can run for president, or that I would be more likely to vote for him than any of the other potential Republican candidates to date...

I would love to see him and Christie debating with the Tea Party loons... hahaha


Source


Is there anyone actually opposed to amending the constitution so he can run? I think its a really, really silly rule. It doesn't make any amount of practical sense. Am I missing something? I wouldn't be surprised if there was an actually legit reason for this, but I'm not seeing it right now.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 21:05:15
October 18 2013 21:04 GMT
#10996
On October 19 2013 05:57 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 05:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
I don't know what's funnier that Arnold Schwarzenegger is petitioning to to amend the constitution so he can run for president, or that I would be more likely to vote for him than any of the other potential Republican candidates to date...

I would love to see him and Christie debating with the Tea Party loons... hahaha


Source


Is there anyone actually opposed to amending the constitution so he can run? I think its a really, really silly rule. It doesn't make any amount of practical sense. Am I missing something? I wouldn't be surprised if there was an actually legit reason for this, but I'm not seeing it right now.


You'd be surprised... In fact, I wouldn't doubt that a majority of Americans do not want to amend that clause.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 18 2013 21:45 GMT
#10997
In explaining the origins of the first government shutdown since 1996, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) reportedly admitted to President Barack Obama earlier this month that he was "overrun" by his Republican caucus.

“John, what happened?” Obama asked Boehner on the second day of the shutdown, according to Politico.

“I got overrun, that’s what happened,” Boehner replied as he reportedly tried to exit a White House meeting for a smoke break.

Democrats repeatedly questioned Bohener's clout over Republican House members throughout the budget and debt standoff, arguing that the speaker capitulates too often to conservatives on Capitol Hill.

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said Boehner has become a "puppet — with Ted Cruz pulling the strings," while Obama said the speaker's inability to "control his caucus" contributed to the impasse.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11370 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 21:54:51
October 18 2013 21:52 GMT
#10998
On October 19 2013 06:04 Souma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 05:57 Mohdoo wrote:
On October 19 2013 05:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
I don't know what's funnier that Arnold Schwarzenegger is petitioning to to amend the constitution so he can run for president, or that I would be more likely to vote for him than any of the other potential Republican candidates to date...

I would love to see him and Christie debating with the Tea Party loons... hahaha


Source


Is there anyone actually opposed to amending the constitution so he can run? I think its a really, really silly rule. It doesn't make any amount of practical sense. Am I missing something? I wouldn't be surprised if there was an actually legit reason for this, but I'm not seeing it right now.


You'd be surprised... In fact, I wouldn't doubt that a majority of Americans do not want to amend that clause.

Given how much weight was put on Obama the Kenyan, birth certificates long or short I would not be surprised that most would not want it changed. The entire controversy was predicated that being foreign born would be a bad thing. Could people's love for Arnie overcome their hatred for Obama? Doubt it. But considering how well the Republicans last president who was both governor of California and a former actor did for their party, maybe just maybe

Joking aside as that view was admittedly fringed, even if there were strict residency requirements, I just can not see it changing. The rule has been around for too long and I'm sure out of 300 million people, they can find someone else.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
October 18 2013 21:53 GMT
#10999
On October 19 2013 06:52 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 06:04 Souma wrote:
On October 19 2013 05:57 Mohdoo wrote:
On October 19 2013 05:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
I don't know what's funnier that Arnold Schwarzenegger is petitioning to to amend the constitution so he can run for president, or that I would be more likely to vote for him than any of the other potential Republican candidates to date...

I would love to see him and Christie debating with the Tea Party loons... hahaha


Source


Is there anyone actually opposed to amending the constitution so he can run? I think its a really, really silly rule. It doesn't make any amount of practical sense. Am I missing something? I wouldn't be surprised if there was an actually legit reason for this, but I'm not seeing it right now.


You'd be surprised... In fact, I wouldn't doubt that a majority of Americans do not want to amend that clause.

Given how much weight was put on Obama the Kenyan, birth certificates long or short I would not be surprised that most would not want it changed. The entire controversy was predicated that being foreign born would be a bad thing. Could people's love for Arnie overcome their hatred for Obama? Doubt it. But considering how well the Republicans last president who was both governor of California and a former actor did for their party, maybe just maybe

Even if there was a strict residency requirements, I just can not see it changing. The rule has been around for too long and I'm sure out of 300 million people, they can find someone else.

The people in the GOP who had a problem with Obama's heritage didnt have a problem with it because he was merely a 'foreigner'
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11370 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 21:59:11
October 18 2013 21:58 GMT
#11000
On October 19 2013 06:53 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 06:52 Falling wrote:
On October 19 2013 06:04 Souma wrote:
On October 19 2013 05:57 Mohdoo wrote:
On October 19 2013 05:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
I don't know what's funnier that Arnold Schwarzenegger is petitioning to to amend the constitution so he can run for president, or that I would be more likely to vote for him than any of the other potential Republican candidates to date...

I would love to see him and Christie debating with the Tea Party loons... hahaha


Source


Is there anyone actually opposed to amending the constitution so he can run? I think its a really, really silly rule. It doesn't make any amount of practical sense. Am I missing something? I wouldn't be surprised if there was an actually legit reason for this, but I'm not seeing it right now.


You'd be surprised... In fact, I wouldn't doubt that a majority of Americans do not want to amend that clause.

Given how much weight was put on Obama the Kenyan, birth certificates long or short I would not be surprised that most would not want it changed. The entire controversy was predicated that being foreign born would be a bad thing. Could people's love for Arnie overcome their hatred for Obama? Doubt it. But considering how well the Republicans last president who was both governor of California and a former actor did for their party, maybe just maybe

Even if there was a strict residency requirements, I just can not see it changing. The rule has been around for too long and I'm sure out of 300 million people, they can find someone else.

The people in the GOP who had a problem with Obama's heritage didnt have a problem with it because he was merely a 'foreigner'

Well that's true. Something about his uncle or father holding anti-American views and that Obama was going to intentionally tear America down from the inside, 5th column style. I can't remember who I got the flurry of PMs at the height of that controversy. But anyways, that part was mostly a joke. It might sound like an arbitrary rule, but I think you need to draw a line at some point of what does it mean to be an American citizen and be able to run for president rather than having hypothetical foreign celebrities parachuting into election cycles. Dalai Lama for president anyone? lol
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