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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On October 09 2016 08:30 Grumbels wrote: http://www.newsweek.com/epileptogenic-pepe-video-507417 Speaking of evil... Man thats just deplorable Also shout out to trump for putting his rape accusations on the table by retweeting Juanita Broadman claiming she was raped by Bill Clinton, but said she wasn't under oath. Now Hillary can point out hes been accused of raping a 13 year old. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On October 09 2016 09:27 Madkipz wrote: What do you want to lead this nation. an AI? GOD? I can tell you right now that there are nobody in the world that's squeaky clean. Especially nobody with money. You think the clintons and their foundation is that much better? They're only using a different brand of fertilizer to keep the stench down. there's plenty of people who're clean enough. especially in a place like norway, so I don't get why you're complaining. and the standard of the person you were responding to isn't that high. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 09 2016 09:27 Madkipz wrote: What do you want to lead this nation. an AI? GOD? I can tell you right now that there are nobody in the world that's squeaky clean. Especially nobody with money. You think the clintons and their foundation is that much better? They're only using a different brand of fertilizer to keep the stench down. Most of those people aren't literally losing sleep at night over people who think ill of them, then tweeting at 3AM about it. I don't expect my president to not be a crook. God forbid enough presidents in history already were and the US is still here anyway. But that's not really the whole issue here. The issue is that Donald Trump has repeatedly and consistently demonstrated a lack of emotional inhibition that would clearly affect his ability to do the high-stress job of being the US president before he's even in office. The fact that the Clintons have "kept the stench down" better than Trump has is the entire point here. Demonstrating composure, even faux composure, in the face of stress and scrutiny is actually a rather important skill for the president to have. Right-wing conspiracy theorists were raising questions of Clinton's health issues and how they might affect her ability to handle the stress of being the president. At this stage, Trump's emotional immaturity should raise just as many questions as far as fitness for the job goes as Clinton's deteriorating physical health. We're at the point where both candidates are going to be shit from a policy perspective, and both are crooks. The only real metric left for deciding who's going to be better is "basic competency with the necessary skills to be president", even though that should already have been a given for anyone to win a primary for a major party anyway, and Trump's even failing that somehow. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 09 2016 10:45 zlefin wrote: So Yango, what people are good from a policy perspective? At this point, I'm not really even sure myself. | ||
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Chris1
44 Posts
"I was 35 years old when Bill Clinton, Ark. Attorney General raped me and Hillary tried to silence me. I am now 73....it never goes away." https://twitter.com/atensnut?ref_src=twsrc^tfw | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On October 09 2016 10:47 TheYango wrote: At this point, I'm not really even sure myself. how about me? am I good from a policy perspective? what makes someone good/bad from a policy perspective? | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On October 09 2016 10:47 TheYango wrote: At this point, I'm not really even sure myself. Hillary called in enough political favors to crowd out any effective chance of a viable establishment Democratic opponent in the primary well before voting even began. The Republican Party is just so internally terrible that they weren't able to make anything happen and they were stupid enough to push Jeb Bush of all people. Basically, there was no chance of anyone good having a chance, and I could see by 2012 that 2016 was going to suck. | ||
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riotjune
United States3393 Posts
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4329 Posts
What did Hillary mean when she said she had a public and a private position on policy? https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927 | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
re: hillary pub/priv policy I don't know; my first guess would be the stance and wording you take for political advantage and safety vs your actual assessment of policy feasibility and soundness. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 09 2016 11:42 zlefin wrote: wikileaks would be better if it didn't have such an agenda to it. (the non-truth parts of their agenda that is) They are going to cherry pick and doctor documents until the end of time. That is the power of these sort of leaks, they are not original documents and cannot be corroborated. But people treat them like they are because of wikileaks previous dumps of "un-redacted" information. But no one holds wikileaks accountable. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4329 Posts
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1280Z9?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44298 Posts
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On October 09 2016 12:00 Djzapz wrote: With all the absolutely insane statements Trump has made purposefully in this election, it's funny that it's some bullshit he said in private in a hot mic without his knowledge that seems to harm him the most. I'm a lot more concerned with the stuff he's said in public than some macho quip he made in a bus full of douchebags. I mean he described sexually assaulting women and getting away with it because hes rich and famous. Thats pretty awful. Then again hes also been accused of rape multiple times, including of a 13 year old, so its not like any one should be shocked that hes a rapey piece of shit. I'm still not sure why Trump and surrogates think going after Bill Clinton when Trump is as bad or worse, and Bill isn't running for president is a good move, but its sure not going to end well for them. | ||
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