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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
October 04 2016 21:31 GMT
#106421
On October 05 2016 06:25 Titan107 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 06:24 Nyxisto wrote:
The GOP campaign consists of Assange, Alex Jones and Guccifer. The desperation is real


Don't forget Russia -- or is it North Korea now?

CNN propaganda machine is pathetic.

cnn isn't a propaganda outlet, so not really sure what you're talking about. unless it's just the general patheticness of CNN, that would make sense.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17983 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-04 21:33:09
October 04 2016 21:31 GMT
#106422
On October 05 2016 06:18 LegalLord wrote:
Regardless of what comes of this purported leak, this year has been a great reminder of the meaning of "paper trail."

These people need a lesson in off-the-books corruption.

Well, that's not "regardless of the outcome". If nothing is found, then there's a paper trail showing nothing of note. They only need a lesson if you actually find on-the-books corruption...

And that's assuming this is even real.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-04 21:34:03
October 04 2016 21:33 GMT
#106423


According to this NYT guy it's apparently just public stuff lol. The devastating Assange leaks will arrive every minute. Buy his book, it's 40% off
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-04 21:34:10
October 04 2016 21:34 GMT
#106424
Even file systems hate Philadelphia. Had to give it its own folder just to keep it away from everything else.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
October 04 2016 21:34 GMT
#106425
On October 05 2016 06:31 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 06:18 LegalLord wrote:
Regardless of what comes of this purported leak, this year has been a great reminder of the meaning of "paper trail."

These people need a lesson in off-the-books corruption.

Well, that's not "regardless of the outcome". If nothing is found, then there's a paper trail showing nothing of note. They only need a lesson if you actually find on-the-books corruption...

And that's assuming this is even real.

There have been plenty of other shitty leaks so this is just one more in a line of many.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 04 2016 21:39 GMT
#106426
So Guccifer 2.0 basically hacked records that were available to the public and is bragging about how they had very little security on it?
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9118 Posts
October 04 2016 21:42 GMT
#106427
On October 05 2016 06:39 Nevuk wrote:
So Guccifer 2.0 basically hacked records that were available to the public and is bragging about how they had very little security on it?

We don't know yet, not enough time passed for anyone to sift through all of files he released and check it vs public information
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
October 04 2016 21:48 GMT
#106428
On October 05 2016 06:39 Nevuk wrote:
So Guccifer 2.0 basically hacked records that were available to the public and is bragging about how they had very little security on it?

Email addresses of donors are available to the public?
News to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Titan107
Profile Joined March 2016
30 Posts
October 04 2016 21:54 GMT
#106429
I'd say this part of the leak looks like a big deal...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/breaking-guccifer-2-0-clinton-foundation-docs-show-top-dems-including-nancy-pelosi-funneled-tarp-funds-pacs/
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-04 22:03:22
October 04 2016 21:59 GMT
#106430
That excel spread sheet proves a whole lot. Verified 100% accurate. I also like how there are no dates and the table is labeled "Tarp funds" so we 100% know its dirty shit. Like the Tarp funds were paid back. Who got them was public, along with the amounts. Super packs are required to list their who donates. You could make this list by merging two excel spreadsheets.
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
October 04 2016 22:01 GMT
#106431
On October 05 2016 06:54 Titan107 wrote:
I'd say this part of the leak looks like a big deal...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/breaking-guccifer-2-0-clinton-foundation-docs-show-top-dems-including-nancy-pelosi-funneled-tarp-funds-pacs/

Interesting.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-04 22:03:43
October 04 2016 22:02 GMT
#106432
Also like how the third column is "Amount of" and is truncated. Because, you know, screenshots are high value real estate, can't add those extra 20 pixels to show what that amount represents. Nope, gotta cut off the context and then describe it outside of the image.

Why do all these "leaks" have to be so bush league? If it's a big deal then the material should speak for itself.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 04 2016 22:08 GMT
#106433


C'mon! Our balls are already so blue!
Titan107
Profile Joined March 2016
30 Posts
October 04 2016 22:08 GMT
#106434
On October 05 2016 07:02 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Also like how the third column is "Amount of" and is truncated. Because, you know, screenshots are high value real estate, can't add those extra 20 pixels to show what that amount represents. Nope, gotta cut off the context and then describe it outside of the image.

Why do all these "leaks" have to be so bush league? If it's a big deal then the material should speak for itself.


You're right. It is missing the stamp that says, "CERTIFIED," at the bottom. I swear I saw it there earlier... None the less, the documents are not proven to be true yet, but in a few days time we'll know.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21668 Posts
October 04 2016 22:09 GMT
#106435
On October 05 2016 07:02 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Also like how the third column is "Amount of" and is truncated. Because, you know, screenshots are high value real estate, can't add those extra 20 pixels to show what that amount represents. Nope, gotta cut off the context and then describe it outside of the image.

Why do all these "leaks" have to be so bush league? If it's a big deal then the material should speak for itself.

Because there is no smoking gun and you have to fluff it up to keep the drama going before people inevitably realize it is nothing and move on, while leaving behind the tiny sliver in your mind that there was once this shady thing about the Clinton Foundation so that enough of these slivers pile on to created a general feeling of 'scum' without ever having provided anything worth a damn.

You know, how the entire 'Hillary is crooked' scenario has gone.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
October 04 2016 22:10 GMT
#106436
On October 05 2016 06:54 Titan107 wrote:
I'd say this part of the leak looks like a big deal...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/breaking-guccifer-2-0-clinton-foundation-docs-show-top-dems-including-nancy-pelosi-funneled-tarp-funds-pacs/


Also from that website:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/clinton-campaign-mgr-refuses-condemn-hillary-clintons-death-threat-wikileaks-founder-video/

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/unreal-corrupt-us-media-totally-ignores-story-bill-clintons-illegitimate-son/

So forgive me for not taking it even remotely seriously.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21668 Posts
October 04 2016 22:11 GMT
#106437
On October 05 2016 07:08 xDaunt wrote:
https://twitter.com/GUCCIFER_2/status/783425088796364800

C'mon! Our balls are already so blue!

Yes, why a server used by the Democratic candidate for campaign documentation contain a folder about the Democratic national Convention. What ever would she have to do there....

plz...

We had this same shitshow half a day ago.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 04 2016 22:13 GMT
#106438
On October 05 2016 07:11 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 07:08 xDaunt wrote:
https://twitter.com/GUCCIFER_2/status/783425088796364800

C'mon! Our balls are already so blue!

Yes, why a server used by the Democratic candidate for campaign documentation contain a folder about the Democratic national Convention. What ever would she have to do there....

plz...

We had this same shitshow half a day ago.

Exactly, which is why I'm not getting my panties in a bunch yet.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 04 2016 22:14 GMT
#106439
On October 05 2016 07:09 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 07:02 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Also like how the third column is "Amount of" and is truncated. Because, you know, screenshots are high value real estate, can't add those extra 20 pixels to show what that amount represents. Nope, gotta cut off the context and then describe it outside of the image.

Why do all these "leaks" have to be so bush league? If it's a big deal then the material should speak for itself.

Because there is no smoking gun and you have to fluff it up to keep the drama going before people inevitably realize it is nothing and move on, while leaving behind the tiny sliver in your mind that there was once this shady thing about the Clinton Foundation so that enough of these slivers pile on to created a general feeling of 'scum' without ever having provided anything worth a damn.

You know, how the entire 'Hillary is crooked' scenario has gone.


Yup...it's all about the slow drip of headlines.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 04 2016 22:15 GMT
#106440
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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