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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-04 20:37:54
October 04 2016 20:37 GMT
#106401
Unless the CF is so dumb as to have a folder literally titled "Pay for Play" those are fake. Then again, it has been that kind of year where they could be real.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 04 2016 20:39 GMT
#106402
On October 05 2016 05:10 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 04:52 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 05 2016 03:17 Danglars wrote:
On October 05 2016 03:04 TheYango wrote:
On October 05 2016 02:56 Slaughter wrote:
Deomocrats didn't call out Obama for "not telling them" about the problems he had with the bill, even though he publicly said what his problems with it were. That was your boy McConnell.

To be fair, there's plenty on the conservative side of this thread who are sick of McConnell's bullshit too.

I distinctly remember Danglars calling him out on this earlier in the thread.

He's one of the most reviled men amongst conservatives.

This is all rather funny. Someone wants to stick up for Obama's alleged bipartisanship and expects naming Republican leaders will provoke the same. He deserves to be gone, even at the cost of a GOP seat, but it's going to be a long time and I expect he'll retire into a cozy lobbying position if the race becomes tough.

So why exactly is this terrible man The single biggest spokesperson for the Republican party? Why has he not been driven out of atleast his leader position if his seat is so safe.
Is it perhabs because he indeed does speak for the majority of Republican politicians? And if so what does that tell you about where your party stands in relation to yourself?

Incumbency and the resources that come from it are a stiff challenge to surmount for a challenger with low name recognition. The reason he's still there is the same reason the Tea Party (and current waves of anti-establishment backlash) revolted against elected GOP politicians. The party's leadership is both ineffective and corrupt. You should ask yourself what kind of primary numbers a well-loved politician would get, then look up how well he did in 2014. Also ask yourself how the majority leader of the house fared from that epoch.


Yes, McConnell is not well loved for the same reason as Boehner, he gave in on power of the pur...I mean obstruction. He didn't stand strong with the Tea Party.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15728 Posts
October 04 2016 20:42 GMT
#106403
I think Kaine's focus of this debate is making Pence say things that are in direct conflict with Trump. Wins for Kaine will look like Pence saying "Of course Trump doesn't actually want that" and other similar such things
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 04 2016 20:47 GMT
#106404
So Guccifer 2.0 just made a post claiming that he hacked the Clinton Foundation and linking to a metric shitton of documents. Get a load of some these folders that he claims were on the server:

[image loading]

"pay to play" "intern sandbox" It's just absurd.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23580 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-04 20:57:22
October 04 2016 20:49 GMT
#106405
On October 05 2016 05:37 Nevuk wrote:
Unless the CF is so dumb as to have a folder literally titled "Pay for Play" those are fake. Then again, it has been that kind of year where they could be real.


They were legit last time, no?

Hard to keep track of which info came from which leak/FOIA/hack.

On October 05 2016 05:47 xDaunt wrote:
So Guccifer 2.0 just made a post claiming that he hacked the Clinton Foundation and linking to a metric shitton of documents. Get a load of some these folders that he claims were on the server:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


"pay to play" "intern sandbox" It's just absurd.


Allow me to save us all some time:
1. It's fake
2. It's not a big deal
3. You know Russian hackers are trying to win the election for Trump!
4. Maybe it's true, maybe it's bad, but it's not as bad as what Trump said the other day.
5. Why are you bringing up that old conspiracy again, clearly it provides no context for what recently happened?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 04 2016 20:52 GMT
#106406
Guccifer 2.0 missed the "Corrupt Dealings" folder. The most important one.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15728 Posts
October 04 2016 20:52 GMT
#106407
On October 05 2016 05:47 xDaunt wrote:
So Guccifer 2.0 just made a post claiming that he hacked the Clinton Foundation and linking to a metric shitton of documents. Get a load of some these folders that he claims were on the server:

"pay to play" "intern sandbox" It's just absurd.


There is no way they have a folder named "pay to play" which substantiates the kinda stuff that has been suggested previously. I just can't imagine that being the case. We'll know in the next couple days I guess.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-04 20:54:23
October 04 2016 20:53 GMT
#106408
On October 05 2016 05:47 xDaunt wrote:
So Guccifer 2.0 just made a post claiming that he hacked the Clinton Foundation and linking to a metric shitton of documents. Get a load of some these folders that he claims were on the server:

[image loading]

"pay to play" "intern sandbox" It's just absurd.

Okay the Clinton people fail at corruption and subsequent coverup, but this is too hard to believe. The first floor of these enterprises is conducting business off the books.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 04 2016 20:54 GMT
#106409
On October 05 2016 05:52 LegalLord wrote:
Guccifer 2.0 missed the "Corrupt Dealings" folder. The most important one.

The only folder that's missing is the "Bimbo Explosion" folder.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15728 Posts
October 04 2016 20:56 GMT
#106410
This thing is organized like my backup hard drive. I just can't.

"Finance 2013-2014" AND "Financials"?? "February event"?????????????????????

Similar deal as the Assange "October surprise". If this doesn't turn out to be legit, Guccifer's integrity is down the tubes.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 04 2016 20:59 GMT
#106411
Lol what are we supposing intern sandbox means? Sounds like a folder for interns to use.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 04 2016 21:03 GMT
#106412
Apparently "pay to play" is an SEC term of art for certain regulated activities. That would mean that it wouldn't be unexpected for certain entities to have such a folder.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
October 04 2016 21:04 GMT
#106413
On October 05 2016 05:59 Doodsmack wrote:
Lol what are we supposing intern sandbox means? Sounds like a folder for interns to use.

it would mean that interns can put documents in that folder and not have access to the other folders
© Current year.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22050 Posts
October 04 2016 21:12 GMT
#106414
1). unsure if real
2) 99.9% sure there is no smoking gun if real
3) How stupid do you think the Clintons are. People claim they are this massive shadow organisation that no one has been able to catch for decades but now they have all their dirt just lying around in conveniently labeled folders on a complete mess of a file server?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Titan107
Profile Joined March 2016
30 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-04 21:16:09
October 04 2016 21:14 GMT
#106415
On October 05 2016 05:37 Nevuk wrote:
Unless the CF is so dumb as to have a folder literally titled "Pay for Play" those are fake. Then again, it has been that kind of year where they could be real.


One word. Stonetear.

Also, with the leaks:

There is a file showing TARP funds were given to big banks (which they were supposed to) and then given at a percentage to the Clinton Foundation. That is stealing taxpayer money. If this holds up, that's pretty corrupt.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 04 2016 21:18 GMT
#106416
Regardless of what comes of this purported leak, this year has been a great reminder of the meaning of "paper trail."

These people need a lesson in off-the-books corruption.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
October 04 2016 21:24 GMT
#106417
The GOP campaign consists of Assange, Alex Jones and Guccifer. The desperation is real
Titan107
Profile Joined March 2016
30 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-04 21:26:31
October 04 2016 21:25 GMT
#106418
On October 05 2016 06:24 Nyxisto wrote:
The GOP campaign consists of Assange, Alex Jones and Guccifer. The desperation is real


Don't forget Russia -- or is it North Korea now?

CNN propaganda machine is pathetic.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 04 2016 21:29 GMT
#106419
North Korea only hacks companies that make terrible movies about them.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43468 Posts
October 04 2016 21:30 GMT
#106420
I call cover-up. They started it at C so we couldn't see B for Benghazi and ended it at P so we didn't see the R for rape victims. Media is covering for Crooked Hillary.
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