EPTOn September 27 2016 11:54 LegalLord wrote:
The symbolism of Hillary's red dress people.
The symbolism of Hillary's red dress people.
I'm sorely tempted to make a Schindler's List joke.
But the DNC really is a big tent this year.
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I'm sorely tempted to make a Schindler's List joke. But the DNC really is a big tent this year. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On September 27 2016 11:58 Nakajin wrote: For a second I read poisoned, I was only mildly surprise, that where I am. Same. | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On September 27 2016 11:57 radscorpion9 wrote: I feel like Clinton seemed more knowledgeable and had specific policies in mind. On one hand I empathize with Trump's statement that she has been in power for so long and what has really changed, it seems like politicians talk about all these things and yet the country still has these enormous problems. But on the other hand, she was a senator for most of her life and can't single handedly alter the course of government, and even when she was in power there's only so much you can do when you are in a major recession. So you have to be fair. I'm just not convinced Trump really has a better alternative or a magic answer; just because he's an outsider doesn't mean he can solve all these things. As far as I can see Clinton has a plan to make things better, Trump has vague appeals to better trade deals. The economists think she has a better plan on the economy, that kind of influence would significantly affect my vote towards Clinton. And most of all I think she clearly cares about climate change which is an extremely important problem. I actually think Donald Trump might be better on foreign policy, in the sense that I think he had better intuitions on Iraq and to be honest I didn't find Hillary's defense of why they left Iraq very convincing (I'm pretty sure there were major protestations by George Bush and the military at the time). I do think Hillary did a great thing with Iran and that that country is being unfairly demonized for a statement their leaders never even said. On the whole she just seems to have a clear plan, that is vetted by experts. We are not in wartime, so its not too relevant that Donald Trump has the support of so many generals. Its the honest truth. Whether we wanted to be in there or not we could not be in there any longer without a new agreement with the government of Iraq and they did not want to give one and without we can not stay in that country. It was not a matter of choice we had to leave when we did. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On September 27 2016 11:59 Adreme wrote: Its the honest truth. Whether we wanted to be in there or not we could not be in there any longer without a new agreement with the government of Iraq and they did not want to give one and without we can not stay in that country. It was not a matter of choice we had to leave when we did. well, iirc, technically, we could've stayed IF we agreed to let them prosecute our troops if our troops kill somebody improperly. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On September 27 2016 11:59 plasmidghost wrote: I'm rather annoyed with Garry Kasparov's dicksucking of America all the time, he keeps holding the country up as this pillar of virtue and democracy that defeated the Soviet Union but honestly America is only a good country in theory. In practice, since the country's founding to now, there have been so many awful atrocities and undemocratic interventions that America has done and as such, it should not be respected as a good power and especially should not be world police. The last time I cared about what Garry Kasparov had to say was when he gave his thoughts on the Anand vs Carlsen world championship match. He's not a political figure worth listening to. | ||
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Monochromatic
United States997 Posts
On September 27 2016 11:57 radscorpion9 wrote: I'm just not convinced Trump really has a better alternative or a magic answer; just because he's an outsider doesn't mean he can solve all these things. As far as I can see Clinton has a plan to make things better, Trump has vague appeals to better trade deals. The economists think she has a better plan on the economy, that kind of influence would significantly affect my vote towards Clinton. And most of all I think she clearly cares about climate change which is an extremely important problem. Economists are not a very good source of translating policies to real life. Look at all the economists who supported negative interest rates, and look at where that's got the global economy. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On September 27 2016 12:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/780582448732176384 HOOOOOOOOOLY SHIT They're actually dumber than that guy who deleted all his reddit posts about scrubbing email addresses. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On September 27 2016 12:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/780582448732176384 Not true. It's still up. | ||
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Edit: not true in this case | ||
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On September 27 2016 11:56 Sermokala wrote: I don't think anything really big happened. The debate was really more of the same from the campaigns both have been running. Trump showing more energy and acting much more aggressively while hillary keeps trying to act presidential. Both testing the waters some. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On September 27 2016 12:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/David_Leavitt/status/780582448732176384 I guess this is what he meant with ''we invented the internet and we've lost control of the internet and need to take it back' LOL edit: but the tweet is still up so this must be fake | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On September 27 2016 12:00 zlefin wrote: well, iirc, technically, we could've stayed IF we agreed to let them prosecute our troops if our troops kill somebody improperly. That is a thing that was never going to be given. The US is not going to hang it military out to dry like that which basically meant the US had to leave when it did. | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
On September 27 2016 12:02 Monochromatic wrote: Economists are not a very good source of translating policies to real life. Look at all the economists who supported negative interest rates, and look at where that's got the global economy. My introduction to macroeconomics taught me that economics is just about making guesses, hoping said guesses work, and then just saying it was probably 50/50 either way. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On September 27 2016 12:02 Monochromatic wrote: Economists are not a very good source of translating policies to real life. Look at all the economists who supported negative interest rates, and look at where that's got the global economy. iirc few supported negative interest rates; and even support would only be tentatives; for a long time negative interest rates were a nono. so I don't think your point significantly applies. | ||
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oBlade
United States5570 Posts
On September 27 2016 12:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Not true. It's still up. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/265895292191248385 Journalists wouldn't lie, must just be some mistake. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On September 27 2016 12:03 Adreme wrote: That is a thing that was never going to be given. The US is not going to hang it military out to dry like that which basically meant the US had to leave when it did. I know, that's why I said technically. | ||
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