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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
On September 27 2016 11:47 TheTenthDoc wrote: Well he already did technically by saying he was a Democrat that was rigging the debate iirc lester holt is a registered republican | ||
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oBlade
United States6669 Posts
On September 27 2016 11:46 Aceace wrote: No one expected anything new from candidates... They fought and Hillary won first round. Thats all. Like a boxing match. You don't expect kicking from a boxing match :D I don't think anyone won, it was just ceremony to the bases. But we'll see if independents say anything. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On September 27 2016 11:48 CorsairHero wrote: iirc lester holt is a registered republican Yep. That's what made it even more ridiculous | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On September 27 2016 11:48 CorsairHero wrote: iirc lester holt is a registered republican I saw this as well. | ||
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Deleted User 173346
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On September 27 2016 11:49 plasmidghost wrote: Sad thing is, these debates are not going to even matter at all in terms of swaying voters I'm sure they will. | ||
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CobaltBlu
United States919 Posts
I think Trump started better than expected but ended up getting baited and lost control for the majority of the debate. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On September 27 2016 11:48 CorsairHero wrote: iirc lester holt is a registered republican still seems like a trump hater xd cant trust the blacks get a white man up there User was warned for this post | ||
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Introvert
United States5082 Posts
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On September 27 2016 11:44 LegalLord wrote: I don't think the moderator did a good job today. Anderson Cooper will be much better. He is great at calling bullshit from all sides. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
People that don't trust her still won't trust her, but Trump just looked bad. He was more or less holding serve at the beginning, but as time went on, he looked worse and worse as he offered zero concrete details, repeatedly and blatantly lied, looked buffoonish as he stammered, repeated himself, and yelled over the other two constantly, and fell into some pretty slick one-liners by Clinton towards the end. As for the moderator, I agree that he didn't do the greatest, but if he would've done well, the entire debate would've been him calling Trump out for the incredible amount of lies that he told in one sitting. They really just need to install a button that lets the moderator turn off one or both microphones if they refuse to stop talking or keep spouting total B.S. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On September 27 2016 11:50 CorsairHero wrote: do any trump supporters think he interrupted too much Yes I do Especially with the moderator. | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On September 27 2016 11:49 Introvert wrote: I wonder what it would have been like with almost any other Republican on that stage... missed opportunities. And Trump was the only one who could stick it to Hillary! lol. Any other Republican I think can win that debate. Honestly I think the best way for Trump to win is for him to catch a serious flu right before the 2nd debate and have Pence step in for him because he can win that debate or at least not look that terrible. | ||
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oBlade
United States6669 Posts
On September 27 2016 11:50 CorsairHero wrote: do any trump supporters think he interrupted too much Only in the one spot, don't remember what they were talking about. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On September 27 2016 11:50 CorsairHero wrote: do any trump supporters think he interrupted too much (not a Trump supporter but) If Trump had stayed Xanax'd like he was the first 15 minutes with minimal interruptions he would have walked away with it I think Edit: To add more, he was really hammering the 30 years thing effectively (or as meaningfully as he can), but clearly lost the thread of that argument | ||
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Antyee
Hungary1011 Posts
On September 27 2016 11:38 The_Templar wrote: + Show Spoiler + On September 27 2016 11:31 Antyee wrote: For those who cite Politifact as a reliable source: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.redd.it/hl8w9hsf7ynx.png) ![[image loading]](https://i.sli.mg/jn7NAx.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.sli.mg/7rUCyY.jpg) The first one is 100% accurate. Crime hasn't been rising at all except for this one year. The point of the second one is that the number cited is misleading. See the paragraphs directly below: • The number refers to "potential" jobs lost, not actual jobs lost. This is an important point that would not be obvious from the way Trump phrased his statement. By leaving the impression that these were actual jobs lost, Trump’s statistic invites a degree of outrage that isn’t warranted. ... • The number doesn’t reflect that coal is increasingly being replaced by natural gas. Trump’s decision to use this number tells only part of the story of how the electricity sector has been developing. The third one is just wrong because Sanders was talking about a small section of African-Americans. It even says so in the title. "For young people who have graduated high school or dropped out of high school, who are between the ages of 17 and 20, if they happen to be white, the unemployment rate is 33 percent," he said. "If they are Hispanic, the unemployment rate is 36 percent. If they are African-American, the real unemployment rate for young people is 51 percent." Meanwhile, with Trump, he was counting people not looking for work as unemployed which is misleading.So, is one year of crimes rising after so many years of decline is not something to be noted? If he said 'Crime has been rising', you would be right, but right now, it IS rising. He never said it was actual job lost, he said it costs 50k+ jobs. Even in the worst case it is partly true. Sanders said between 17 and 20, Trump said 'youth'. He said this: "If you look at what’s going on in this country, African-American youth is an example: 59 percent unemployment rate; 59 percent," Trump said. "If you look at what’s going on with Latinos, Hispanics - tremendous unemployment rates. You look at what’s going on with so many groups. We’re going to make it great for everyone. We’re going to bring jobs back to our country." How can you tell what he refers to with "unemployed"?He says the exact same thing Sanders said instead said 'youth' instead of 17-20, and didn't say the word 'real', because it's meaningless. EDIT: If you reply, do it in a PM if possible. It's 5 AM, so I'll go to sleep and I'm unlikely to scroll back all the pages. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24491 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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