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On September 27 2016 11:50 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Debate went about as well as it possibly could for Hillary.
People that don't trust her still won't trust her, but Trump just looked bad. He was more or less holding serve at the beginning, but as time went on, he looked worse and worse as he offered zero concrete details, repeatedly and blatantly lied, looked buffoonish as he stammered, repeated himself, and yelled over the other two constantly, and fell into some pretty slick one-liners by Clinton towards the end.
As for the moderator, I agree that he didn't do the greatest, but if he would've done well, the entire debate would've been him calling Trump out for the incredible amount of lies that he told in one sitting. They really just need to install a button that lets the moderator turn off one or both microphones if they refuse to stop talking or keep spouting total B.S.
so much for that stamina 
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Hillary might have won, but how many Americans will realize that or care
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Some time later, after our discussion has calmed down, I'd like to try answering some questions as if I were in a debate; anyone else wanna do that maybe tomorrow?
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The Trump campaign manager just said that he was poised, there truly is an alternate reality here
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Trump is already out talking to the press trying to spin
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Jake Tapper got it right, not enough substance, the town hall will probably be better for that.
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On September 27 2016 11:54 LegalLord wrote:
The symbolism of Hillary's red dress people.
indeed, some caller on cspan was about to start ranting on that; I heard him say the word "blood" and they cut him off. it was pretty clear what was coming after that.
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On September 27 2016 11:55 oBlade wrote:
Jake Tapper got it right, not enough substance, the town hall will probably be better for that.
debates are always terrible for substance. also, the american people don't want actual substance, actual substance is incredibly boring, and also usually so arcane that they can't usefully understand it because they're missing piles of background knowledge.
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On September 27 2016 11:55 Nevuk wrote:
Trump is already out talking to the press trying to spin
He started doing this shit even before the debates, sending signals that 'he's not preparing'
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I don't think anything really big happened. The debate was really more of the same from the campaigns both have been running. Trump showing more energy and acting much more aggressively while hillary keeps trying to act presidential.
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On September 27 2016 11:55 TheTenthDoc wrote:
The Trump campaign manager just said that he was poised, there truly is an alternate reality here
Dont trust the spin people. If Trump had stripped down naked with 5 minutes to go and done the Charleston in the middle of the stage, they would say he looked presidential the entire time and they would say that because that is there job.
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I feel like Clinton seemed more knowledgeable and had specific policies in mind. On one hand I empathize with Trump's statement that she has been in power for so long and what has really changed, it seems like politicians talk about all these things and yet the country still has these enormous problems. But on the other hand, she was a senator for most of her life and can't single handedly alter the course of government, and even when she was in power there's only so much you can do when you are in a major recession. So you have to be fair.
I'm just not convinced Trump really has a better alternative or a magic answer; just because he's an outsider doesn't mean he can solve all these things. As far as I can see Clinton has a plan to make things better, Trump has vague appeals to better trade deals. The economists think she has a better plan on the economy, that kind of influence would significantly affect my vote towards Clinton. And most of all I think she clearly cares about climate change which is an extremely important problem.
I actually think Donald Trump might be better on foreign policy, in the sense that I think he had better intuitions on Iraq and to be honest I didn't find Hillary's defense of why they left Iraq very convincing (I'm pretty sure there were major protestations by George Bush and the military at the time). I do think Hillary did a great thing with Iran and that that country is being unfairly demonized for a statement their leaders never even said.
On the whole she just seems to have a clear plan, that is vetted by experts. We are not in wartime, so its not too relevant that Donald Trump has the support of so many generals.
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i wanted trump to be good, but as it turns out, hillary is the one favored by the illuminati
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On September 27 2016 11:55 TheTenthDoc wrote:
The Trump campaign manager just said that he was poised, there truly is an alternate reality here
maybe if she watched the first 30 min only but what do you expect her to say
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Trump started off okay but then it got worse from there. His answers on race relations were horrid.
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On September 27 2016 11:57 radscorpion9 wrote:
I feel like Clinton seemed more knowledgeable and had specific policies in mind. On one hand I empathize with Trump's statement that she has been in power for so long and what has really changed, it seems like politicians talk about all these things and yet the country still has these enormous problems. But on the other hand, she was a senator for most of her life and can't single handedly alter the course of government, and even when she was in power there's only so much you can do when you are in a major recession. So you have to be fair.
I'm just not convinced Trump really has a better alternative or a magic answer; just because he's an outsider doesn't mean he can solve all these things. As far as I can see Clinton has a plan to make things better, Trump has vague appeals to better trade deals. The economists think she has a better plan on the economy, that kind of influence would significantly affect my vote towards Clinton. And most of all I think she clearly cares about climate change which is an extremely important problem.
I actually think Donald Trump might be better on foreign policy, in the sense that I think he had better intuitions on Iraq and to be honest I didn't find Hillary's defense of why they left Iraq very convincing (I'm pretty sure there were major protestations by George Bush and the military at the time). I do think Hillary did a great thing with Iran and that that country is being unfairly demonized for a statement their leaders never even said.
On the whole she just seems to have a clear plan, that is vetted by experts. We are not in wartime, so its not too relevant that Donald Trump has the support of so many generals.
i'm pretty sure hillary got the support of an equal number of generals/admirals.
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On September 27 2016 11:55 TheTenthDoc wrote:
The Trump campaign manager just said that he was poised, there truly is an alternate reality here
For a second I read poisoned, I was only mildly surprise, that's where I am.
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On September 27 2016 11:57 CorsairHero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2016 11:55 TheTenthDoc wrote:
The Trump campaign manager just said that he was poised, there truly is an alternate reality here maybe if she watched the first 30 min only but what do you expect her to say
I mean I would try to spin his actions that actually happened a better way rather than hide in an alternate reality
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