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On September 20 2016 02:37 Liquid`Drone wrote: what if there's already present a number of people who might statistically be more likely to become autocombusters if they are discriminated against by the reasoning that they are more likely to autocombust than other people? Like, say there are 1000000 people living somewhere, and they have an autocombustability rate of 1/100000, so 10 of those are gonna autocombust the next year. Then, from the outside, there's a group of 100000 people, who are exactly the same as that first group, except their autocombustability rate is 20/100000- so by admitting that group, you'd have a tripling of the autocombusting. However, the first group of 1000000 which has a current autocombustability rate of 1/100000 is going to somehow start combusting more frequently if the first group is not admitted (because the restriction of access to that group is bound to be coupled with distrust and mistreatment towards people who seem to belong to that group and people experiencing distrust and mistreatment are more likely to autocombust), perhaps reaching an autocombustability rate of 5/100000, which would be more total than what we'd experience allowing the initial group of high-risk autocombusters to enter.
yeah possibly. but this seems to be regarding the "decidably combustible" scenario. then we are simply engaged in empirical discussions about how likely muslims are to combust and have already accepted the legitimacy of restricting or not restricting based on that population characteristic.
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On September 20 2016 02:37 Liquid`Drone wrote: what if there's already present a number of people who might statistically be more likely to become autocombusters if they are discriminated against by the reasoning that they are more likely to autocombust than other people? Like, say there are 1000000 people living somewhere, and they have an autocombustability rate of 1/100000, so 10 of those are gonna autocombust the next year. Then, from the outside, there's a group of 100000 people, who are exactly the same as that first group, except their autocombustability rate is 20/100000- so by admitting that group, you'd have a tripling of the autocombusting. However, the first group of 1000000 which has a current autocombustability rate of 1/100000 is going to somehow start combusting more frequently if the first group is not admitted (because the restriction of access to that group is bound to be coupled with distrust and mistreatment towards people who seem to belong to that group and people experiencing distrust and mistreatment are more likely to autocombust), perhaps reaching an autocombustability rate of 5/100000, which would be more total than what we'd experience allowing the initial group of high-risk autocombusters to enter.
Then they are mentally unstable.
Verdict: No.
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Just heard a HRC ad and did some googling to see Trump's language. "Good-paying jobs" instead of "well-paying jobs" from both parties makes my blood boil.
/end grammar Nazi
(yeah, yeah, colloquial adverb, but if I hear both of them at the debates say "we're doing good" or any version of that my faith is going to totally go)
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On September 20 2016 02:45 TheTenthDoc wrote: Just heard a HRC ad and did some googling to see Trump's language. "Good-paying jobs" instead of "well-paying jobs" from both parties makes my blood boil.
/end grammar Nazi
(yeah, yeah, colloquial adverb, but if I hear both of them at the debates say "we're doing good" or any version of that my faith is going to totally go) + Show Spoiler +
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On September 20 2016 02:45 TheTenthDoc wrote: Just heard a HRC ad and did some googling to see Trump's language. "Good-paying jobs" instead of "well-paying jobs" from both parties makes my blood boil.
/end grammar Nazi
(yeah, yeah, colloquial adverb, but if I hear both of them at the debates say "we're doing good" or any version of that my faith is going to totally go) We're gonna win and we're gonna win bigly.
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On September 20 2016 02:37 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2016 02:31 Nebuchad wrote:On September 20 2016 02:21 IgnE wrote:On September 20 2016 02:17 CobaltBlu wrote: I'm not keen on this auto combusting thought experiment since it seems to imply that people from certain places are defunct humans and are bound to randomly cause harm. Syrians should be subject to more stringent screening because their country of origin is engaged in a civil war and is home to an active terrorist group not because there is something inherently wrong with Syrians. im confused. you are against thought experiments because you think people might become confused? you can raise that objection as the analysis progresses. we are plumbing into the depths here to get our foundations in order and ultimately clear up confusions. I'm not sure how you expect to clear confusions by basically presenting a specific immigration as a breach of quarantine. in a sense isn't that what opposition to syrian refugees is about? or even the idea of quarantining muslims until they civilize themselves? i dont think your objection makes sense
Well in that case the way to clear confusion about this is the Rubio way, in which you dispell the notion that immigration is or should be viewed as a breach of quarantine.
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On September 20 2016 02:48 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2016 02:45 TheTenthDoc wrote: Just heard a HRC ad and did some googling to see Trump's language. "Good-paying jobs" instead of "well-paying jobs" from both parties makes my blood boil.
/end grammar Nazi
(yeah, yeah, colloquial adverb, but if I hear both of them at the debates say "we're doing good" or any version of that my faith is going to totally go) We're gonna win and we're gonna win bigly.
Like this catchphrase.
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On September 20 2016 02:48 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2016 02:45 TheTenthDoc wrote: Just heard a HRC ad and did some googling to see Trump's language. "Good-paying jobs" instead of "well-paying jobs" from both parties makes my blood boil.
/end grammar Nazi
(yeah, yeah, colloquial adverb, but if I hear both of them at the debates say "we're doing good" or any version of that my faith is going to totally go) We're gonna win and we're gonna win bigly.
Appealing to the average voter with left wing rethoric.
Trump tries to inspire his voting base, unlike Hillary. There is a massive gap between voting intent and actually getting up and going to vote that favors Trump.
"Make America Great Again" v/s "I suck but he sucks more".
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"In Israel...[t]hey see somebody that’s suspicious they will profile. They will take that person and they’ll check them."
"[Attacks are] something that will happen perhaps, more and more all over the country.”
On his solution to the problem:
“We’re going to have to do something extremely tough over there...Like knock the hell out of them. And we have to get everybody together and we have to lead for a change...We’re going to have to be very tough and you have other countries over there that we are getting devastated far more than we are. And you have to get them together. It’s called leadership. And they have to fight. You know, they have to fight the battle. The battle is over there. And we have to fight the battle and we can’t let any more people come into this country and when we have bad ones — you know, we have people going over fighting for ISIS and coming back and we know they are fighting for ISIS and we take them. Once you leave this country, you fight for ISIS, you never come back.”
- D. Trump, 9/19/16
For now I'm going to keep the faith that most Americans recognize this rhetoric for the non-solution that it is.
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On September 20 2016 02:51 GoTuNk! wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2016 02:48 LegalLord wrote:On September 20 2016 02:45 TheTenthDoc wrote: Just heard a HRC ad and did some googling to see Trump's language. "Good-paying jobs" instead of "well-paying jobs" from both parties makes my blood boil.
/end grammar Nazi
(yeah, yeah, colloquial adverb, but if I hear both of them at the debates say "we're doing good" or any version of that my faith is going to totally go) We're gonna win and we're gonna win bigly. Appealing to the average voter with left wing rethoric. Trump tries to inspire his voting base, unlike Hillary. There is a massive gap between voting intent and actually getting up and going to vote that favors Trump. "Make America Great Again" v/s "I suck but he sucks more". How is the implication that America is no longer great and needs a clown like Trump to fix it inspirational? I feel Trump's message has been overwhelmingly negative. That America is broken, that it is being overrun with terrorists, Mexican rapists and people who hate Christmas, guns and Jesus. That's why the Democrats have stolen so much patriotic "USA USA USA" ground.
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On September 20 2016 02:56 Doodsmack wrote: "In Israel...[t]hey see somebody that’s suspicious they will profile. They will take that person and they’ll check them."
"[Attacks are] something that will happen perhaps, more and more all over the country.”
On his solution to the problem:
“We’re going to have to do something extremely tough over there...Like knock the hell out of them. And we have to get everybody together and we have to lead for a change...We’re going to have to be very tough and you have other countries over there that we are getting devastated far more than we are. And you have to get them together. It’s called leadership. And they have to fight. You know, they have to fight the battle. The battle is over there. And we have to fight the battle and we can’t let any more people come into this country and when we have bad ones — you know, we have people going over fighting for ISIS and coming back and we know they are fighting for ISIS and we take them. Once you leave this country, you fight for ISIS, you never come back.”
- D. Trump, 9/19/16
For now I'm going to keep the faith that most Americans recognize this rhetoric for the non-solution that it is. I like how he completely misunderstands what profiling is. Like fails to understand what it is at a basic level.
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On September 20 2016 02:56 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2016 02:51 GoTuNk! wrote:On September 20 2016 02:48 LegalLord wrote:On September 20 2016 02:45 TheTenthDoc wrote: Just heard a HRC ad and did some googling to see Trump's language. "Good-paying jobs" instead of "well-paying jobs" from both parties makes my blood boil.
/end grammar Nazi
(yeah, yeah, colloquial adverb, but if I hear both of them at the debates say "we're doing good" or any version of that my faith is going to totally go) We're gonna win and we're gonna win bigly. Appealing to the average voter with left wing rethoric. Trump tries to inspire his voting base, unlike Hillary. There is a massive gap between voting intent and actually getting up and going to vote that favors Trump. "Make America Great Again" v/s "I suck but he sucks more". How is the implication that America is no longer great and needs a clown like Trump to fix it inspirational? I feel Trump's message has been overwhelmingly negative. That America is broken, that it is being overrun with terrorists, Mexican rapists and people who hate Christmas, guns and Jesus. That's why the Democrats have stolen so much patriotic "USA USA USA" ground.
The "Make America Great Again" slogan appeals to the idea that the country has a great history and invites you to take initiave to be part of it; it also appeals to fear as you correctly pointed out, which is another great motivator. The democrats are full on "white guilt mode" (US history is "shameful") and all the other negative things you pointed out are encouraged by them directly or by omission.
Does Hillary even have a Slogan?
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Hillary's slogan is I'm With Her.
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On September 20 2016 02:51 GoTuNk! wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2016 02:48 LegalLord wrote:On September 20 2016 02:45 TheTenthDoc wrote: Just heard a HRC ad and did some googling to see Trump's language. "Good-paying jobs" instead of "well-paying jobs" from both parties makes my blood boil.
/end grammar Nazi
(yeah, yeah, colloquial adverb, but if I hear both of them at the debates say "we're doing good" or any version of that my faith is going to totally go) We're gonna win and we're gonna win bigly. Appealing to the average voter with left wing rethoric. Trump tries to inspire his voting base, unlike Hillary. There is a massive gap between voting intent and actually getting up and going to vote that favors Trump. "Make America Great Again" v/s "I suck but he sucks more". The elites & political establishment governing haven't worked, it just hasn't worked because they haven't had the best plans, I have the best plans, I will make America great again. It's not aimed at my faction, but it is inspirational. Meanwhile you can turn up at a given Hillary speech. About two weeks ago, Hillary was making the election all about Trump: Trump's not fit to be president, look at all these slimy alt-right people that support him, look at all their conspiracy theories about my health I couldn't be better. It looks like Hillary's got an edge but it's real small with fifty days remaining and her current rhetoric won't turn out the vote.
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On September 20 2016 03:09 oBlade wrote: Hillary's slogan is I'm With Her. Kind of a really, really lame slogan.
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On September 20 2016 03:09 oBlade wrote: Hillary's slogan is I'm With Her. Its "Stronger Together".
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Yes, stronger to get her to the presidency.
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yeah but its a pretty lame one.
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On September 20 2016 03:12 oBlade wrote: Yes, stronger to get her to the presidency. Make America Great Again, elect a Poorly Informed Trust Fund Baby.
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"Stronger together" sounds like a ripoff of the not so great "Stronger in Europe" slogan of the Brexit Remain campaign.
I found these while Googling for her slogan and I thought them worth a laugh: + Show Spoiler +
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