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ticklishmusic
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KwarK
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On August 13 2016 07:54 KwarK wrote: Given he is still refusing to release his own I don't know how much he can really say. That's precisely what I'm thinking. But you and I both know there's a decent chance he says it anyway | ||
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IgnE
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 13 2016 08:30 IgnE wrote: garland sucks What's wrong with Garland? Legitimately asking, since I haven't really followed him very closely other than the basics of the GOP being obstructionist as usual. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
The co-chair for Donald Trump’s campaign in New York is defending the Republican nominee's attacks against the Khan family, saying that Trump does not have to respect or refer to Khizr Khan as a "Gold Star parent" because he is "a member of the Muslim Brotherhood." In an interview with "Imus in the Morning" interviewer Connell McShane, surfaced by BuzzFeed News, Carl Paladino said that focus in the election has unnecessarily shifted negatively to Trump, despite having an "un-indicted felon," presumably Hillary Clinton, in the race and a supporter of hers, Khan, being undeserving of the title of "Gold Star parent." “We’ve got an un-indicted felon as his opponent and you’re talking about Khan, about him making a remark about this man,” he said. “All right, I don’t care if he’s a Gold Star parent," he continued. "He certainly doesn’t deserve that title, OK, if he’s as anti-American as he’s illustrated in his speeches and in his discussion. I mean, if he’s a member of the Muslim Brotherhood or supporting, you know, the ISIS-type of attitude against America, there’s no reason for Donald Trump to have to honor this man.” Paladino, who made a failed bid for governor of New York in 2010, went on to say that he does not feel that Trump should change his rhetoric in any way and that no one can be sure that President Obama is not a Muslim. 'Wait, wait wait," he said. 'How do you know that's not true?! That's not fair, Connell! You've formed a conclusion about a man because he's told you that." Source | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On August 13 2016 08:28 KwarK wrote: I'm still of the opinion that they should relent now that the writing is on the wall and that should they fail to then they deserve Garland taken off the table. If you refuse to take a compromise because you want to jam your own one sided deal down their throats then you better win and if you don't win you shouldn't then be able to go back and still accept the compromise you rejected earlier. Theyr gonna have a hard time telling Clinton to renominate garland after running all those "the next president decides" ads. McConnell knows that if they lose the supreme Court, the civil liberty and healthcare laws of the last 8 years will be set in stone. So I see why he feels he has to prevent a 5-4 court. It's a bad bet and he knows it, but, from his perspective, he doesn't have a choice really. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On August 13 2016 08:31 TheYango wrote: What's wrong with Garland? Legitimately asking, since I haven't really followed him very closely other than the basics of the GOP being obstructionist as usual. All the analysts iv read say hes a very well respected, moderate, jurist. Hes been passed over several times for the supreme court apparently The media seemed to conclude that his nomination was a sort of olive branch to the GOP. IIRC Fivethirtyeight rated him a 3 on a scale from -10 to 10. (10 being among most liberal justices, -10 the most conservative.) | ||
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ragz_gt
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
“She can’t beat what’s happening here. The only way they can beat it in my opinion, and I mean this 100 percent, if in certain sections of the state they cheat.” Wondering how dangerous this de-legitimization of a Clinton victory actually is. | ||
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CannonsNCarriers
United States638 Posts
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On August 13 2016 09:08 PassiveAce wrote: Trump: Clinton will only win Pennsylvania if 'they cheat' Wondering how dangerous this de-legitimization of a Clinton victory actually is. Right now she has a better chance of hitting 400 electoral votes than he does of winning the election. He can cry cheating all he wants but when the numbers show that big of a blowout could be on the horizon (and i cant imagine him looking good in a debate against her) than his cries are going to fall on deaf ears except for the 30% of the conservative population willing to believe nonsense like that (to be honest there is probably a smaller but still significant liberal population that would believe the opposite). | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On August 13 2016 09:08 PassiveAce wrote: Trump: Clinton will only win Pennsylvania if 'they cheat' Wondering how dangerous this de-legitimization of a Clinton victory actually is. "the only way to win a state that she has a double digit lead in would be for her to cheat" but then again, there are probably some people who genuinely believe a large percentage of those people who are basicly selling their data for a living (I'd assume that's how it goes?) are screwing over their own reputation to help Clinton. Is he trying to save face among the "the moon landing was all faked"-population? | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On August 13 2016 09:21 Toadesstern wrote: "the only way to win a state that she has a double digit lead in would be for her to cheat" but then again, there are probably some people who genuinely believe a large percentage of those people who are basicly selling their data for a living (I'd assume that's how it goes?) are screwing over their own reputation to help Clinton. Is he trying to save face among the "the moon landing was all faked"-population? 69% of NC gop thinks the election will be rigged. It's extremely dangerous talk. http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/08/clinton-leads-in-nc-for-first-time-since-march.html -69% of Trump voters think that if Hillary Clinton wins the election it will be because it was rigged, to only 16% who think it would be because she got more vote than Trump. More specifically 40% of Trump voters think that ACORN (which hasn't existed in years) will steal the election for Clinton. That shows the long staying power of GOP conspiracy theories. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Introvert
United States4922 Posts
In the end, however, I think I will be right. He'll blame the party. This rigged thing is just temporary, his final excuse will be blaming someone else. | ||
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oBlade
United States6032 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Trump has no such obligation because its the fucking GOP. | ||
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