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On August 05 2016 06:19 Adreme wrote:
The counterargument to the fact that a country like Saudi Arabia is donating money to the foundation is that a lot of what it does is humanitarian work and the people who need that help do not care who funds it. If you are starving you are not picky who is serving you food or who is paying for your clean water you just want those things and an organization that understands that but also does not bend to there whims and wishes is good for the world.

Whether the second part is true or not is up for debate but that is the counter argument.

On August 05 2016 06:39 Naracs_Duc wrote:


Its like its possible that people who do bad things also do good things and the world is filled with complex people and societies whose differences by outsiders is sometimes seen as malevolent or benevolent depending on who is doing the observing.

Please don't suggest that people we consider evil can want to do good deeds and that people who do good deeds can sometimes do evil ones as well. How can I paint outsiders as evil if that were the case?

Any reports of a “fissure” on the GOP presidential ticket after Indiana Gov. Mike Pence endorsed House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) when Donald Trump refused to do so are lies spread by the “dishonest" media, Donald Trump said Thursday.

Trump lavished praise on Pence at a town hall in Portland, Maine and emphasized the “great relationship” they have before saying the governor called him yesterday to ask for his blessing to endorse Ryan.

“[Pence] came to me, he called me, because he likes Paul Ryan, Paul Ryan’s a good guy,” Trump began. He shut down mild boos from the crwod at the mention of Ryan’s name by saying, “Nope, he’s a good guy.”

“Mike called me, and he said yesterday, ‘Would you mind if I endorsed? I won’t do that if it’s going to cause any complications, I would absolutely not do that,’” Trump said. “He’s the greatest guy, the greatest human being.”

The real estate mogul recounted Pence saying: "'I like [Ryan]. He's a friend of mine. Would you mind if I endorsed him? And I will not do it if you say no.'"

He continued: “I say, ‘Mike, you like, him, yes. Go ahead and do it, 100 percent.’ And he endorsed him.”

Pence’s endorsement of Ryan, which came one day after Trump said he’s “not quite there yet” on an endorsement of the House speaker, was read as a sign of Pence being out of step with his running mate. But Pence denied in a Fox News interview that the endorsement shows he is at all out of sync with the nominee and said he consulted Trump ahead of time.

Paul Nehlen, the primary challenger of Republican Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, strongly suggested during an interview with Morning Answer Chicago Thursday that the United States should simply kick all Muslims out of the country.

Nehlen said the problem with vetting good Muslims from the bad is that they couldn’t be trusted. “Islam is the only major religion that encourages lying,” he argued. “The taqiyya says you have to lie to the infidel, you lie to them if you have to… I mean if they lie, how do you vet something like that?”

“So then how do you implement the test that you want to implement?” asked host Dan Proft.

“The question is, why do we have Muslims in the country?” Nehlen responded. “How can you possibly vet somebody who lies?”


“So are you suggesting that we deport all of the Muslims in the country?” Proft asked.

“I’m suggesting we have a discussion about it, that’s for sure,” he responded.

An indignant Proft asked Nehlen if he really supported deporting American citizens who hadn’t actually done anything wrong. “Well if somebody supports sharia, that is doing something wrong,” Nehlan said.

On August 05 2016 07:20 Nevuk wrote:

Source

Some context on the person running against Ryan

On August 05 2016 07:24 KwarK wrote:

"What if they say they don't support Sharia?"

"Well how do you check that when Muslims are told to lie if they follow Sharia?"

On August 05 2016 06:15 Doodsmack wrote:


Or he could not outsource the jobs. Like he wants the companies he tries to shame to do.

Good to know he also thinks government can control the economy to the extent that it's not the private sector's fault at all that jobs have been outsourced. It's the government's fault completely, and now that tariffs will be implemented, jobs will obviously come back, because the government is correcting its economy control method.

Donald Trump just cares so much about the American worker. Which is why he imports temporary seasonal workers from other countries for his properties LOL.

On August 05 2016 07:38 Sermokala wrote:

The problem with this is that its trump just taking advantage of the situation. While what hes advocating for is to change the system to make it not advantageous to just outsource the littlest of things. You are bashing him for being a smart businessman and for wanting to change the system that he knows is wrong and can only change by trying to change it.

On August 05 2016 07:50 Nyxisto wrote:
why is this kind of hypocrisy clever when Trump does it and the primary reason not to vote for Hillary when she does it?

On August 05 2016 07:46 KwarK wrote:

I agree. It's the same reason that he actively minimized his taxes by every means he knew how, legal and, given he refuses to release them, presumably less legal. And I would have done the same in his billionaire shoes. But he is going to get bludgeoned by this shit over and over in the run up to the election.

On August 05 2016 07:52 KwarK wrote:

Because Trump did it as a private individual and Hillary did it as a public official. But now Trump has blurred the line between his public and private life and the hypocrisy barrier has fallen. He's going to get torn apart on this one by the left. Not that his devotees will care but maybe the moderates might.