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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9241 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-04 23:54:13
August 04 2016 23:52 GMT
#93021
On August 05 2016 08:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Macy's dumps Trump: http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/01/politics/donald-trump-macys/index.html

I'm sure he thought that running for president would be good publicity for him, but at this rate he'll be bankrupt.

I know it's an old story but hearing 'His disparaging remarks about Mexican immigrants are inconsistent with Macy's values' made me laugh hard. Reminded me of 'Do you follow the values of Jesus? Or Buddha? Or Marx?' 'No, I follow the values of the Carphone Warehouse.'

+ Show Spoiler +
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
August 05 2016 00:07 GMT
#93022
On August 05 2016 08:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Panic button time yet?



https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/761335772016435200/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

Trump in 4th among 18-29 year-olds in that same poll.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 00:09:58
August 05 2016 00:09 GMT
#93023
I'm actually kind of surprised that Johnson still has an 7 point lead over Stein in that age bracket, since 18-29 seems like the age range most likely to vote Green and least likely to vote Libertarian.
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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9241 Posts
August 05 2016 00:14 GMT
#93024
On August 05 2016 09:09 TheYango wrote:
I'm actually kind of surprised that Johnson still has an 7 point lead over Stein in that age bracket, since 18-29 seems like the demographic most likely to vote Green and least likely to vote Libertarian.

On some issues, but the same demographic is appalled by the anti-GMO, anti-nuclear power, pro-'alternative' medicine side of the Greens. But the main factor is that Trump loses more votes than Hillary in these polls, it makes sense that those are going to the Libertarians more so than to the Greens.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5013 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 00:33:37
August 05 2016 00:32 GMT
#93025
Johnson is playing to lefties as well, don't forget that. Trying his hardest.

Edit: last part is sarcastic. He doesn't seem to be trying at all, beyond his attempts to appeal to Sanders types.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9241 Posts
August 05 2016 00:36 GMT
#93026
On August 05 2016 08:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:

Full statement here. It is scathing, no holds barred.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
August 05 2016 00:41 GMT
#93027
On August 05 2016 09:36 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 08:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/StealthBlue/status/761329820080885760

Full statement here. It is scathing, no holds barred.


God damn they went in on him
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 05 2016 00:49 GMT
#93028
On August 05 2016 09:41 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 09:36 Dan HH wrote:
On August 05 2016 08:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/StealthBlue/status/761329820080885760

Full statement here. It is scathing, no holds barred.


God damn they went in on him

Harvard rich kids club think Trump is a terrible idea. Find out why.

That shit was savage and on point. This has been an enjoyable week so far.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
August 05 2016 01:00 GMT
#93029
On August 05 2016 09:09 TheYango wrote:
I'm actually kind of surprised that Johnson still has an 7 point lead over Stein in that age bracket, since 18-29 seems like the age range most likely to vote Green and least likely to vote Libertarian.


Trust me, young people are by far the most likely to vote Libertarian. Green as well, but those are very different young people.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
August 05 2016 01:03 GMT
#93030
The question is : would they have endorsed a Ted Cruz, and if so why ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 05 2016 01:10 GMT
#93031
The backlash against Donald Trump escalated on Thursday as angry US military veterans arrived on Capitol Hill urging Republican leaders to withdraw their support for the party’s nominee.

The protest came after a torrid week for the maverick candidate, whose criticism of Khizr and Ghazala Khan, the parents of an American Muslim soldier killed in Iraq in 2004, triggered a Republican revolt.

The veterans presented a petition on Thursday to the office of Senator John McCain , a Vietnam war veteran and former prisoner of war who was the Republican presidential nominee in 2008. McCain joined the condemnation of Trump this week, but stopped short of withdrawing his endorsement of him.

“Donald Trump and his surrogates have demonstrated that their bigotry and hate speech know no bounds,” Nate Terani, the first Muslim American to serve in the US Navy Presidential Honor Guard, told reporters. “Donald Trump is a racist and bigot and wholly unfit for this position.”

Terani and other veterans gathered under trees on a lawn outside the US Capitol building, urged McCain to put country before party and “unendorse” the nominee. They said their petition had more than 100,000 names in less than a day, including veterans, their families and ordinary voters.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
August 05 2016 01:23 GMT
#93032
At this point, Trump might just drop.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 01:26:50
August 05 2016 01:25 GMT
#93033
Oh boy, I wonder what wonders tomorrow will bring?

We aren't even a week into the general election.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
August 05 2016 01:31 GMT
#93034
George Zimmerman, the man who shot and killed unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin in 2012, claims he was punched by a man in a Sanford, Fla., restaurant over the weekend.

Zimmerman was allegedly bragging about the incident when a man punched him, officials said, according to local news station WFTV.

In a 911 call, Zimmerman alleged that he was explaining to people at a table that he shot Trayvon Martin in self-defense when a large man approached him. “He recognized me,” Zimmerman said. “He told me he was going to kill me he told me he’d [expletive] shoot me and he punched me in the face.”

Zimmerman told 911 operators that the man said “You’re bragging about that?” before punching him, according to WFTV.

The death of 17-year-old Martin, and Zimmerman’s later acquittal, sparked nationwide outrage over the case, which saw Zimmerman employing Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law to his benefit. The Black Lives Matter movement spawned out of the aftermath of the trial.

Other witnesses inside the restaurant disagreed with Zimmerman’s account, according to WFTV, telling officials that the incident started when he bragged about killing Martin.

Zimmerman could not immediately be reached for comment.

Source
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 05 2016 01:36 GMT
#93035
George Zimmerman continues to be human garbage.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
August 05 2016 01:37 GMT
#93036
I think the way someone acts after being acquitted is a good indication of whether or not they were the shitty person in that case. Zimmerman seems to be quite shitty to be sure.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 05 2016 01:41 GMT
#93037
On August 05 2016 09:36 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 08:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/StealthBlue/status/761329820080885760

Full statement here. It is scathing, no holds barred.

I think Gingrich's comments were the most damaging today. The crazy base isn't enough to win him the election - he needs centrist/classic Republicans and, as much as they hate the Clintons, he won't get them if Gingrich/McCain/Ryan/etc. turn on him.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
August 05 2016 01:43 GMT
#93038
On August 05 2016 10:31 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
George Zimmerman, the man who shot and killed unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin in 2012, claims he was punched by a man in a Sanford, Fla., restaurant over the weekend.

Zimmerman was allegedly bragging about the incident when a man punched him, officials said, according to local news station WFTV.

In a 911 call, Zimmerman alleged that he was explaining to people at a table that he shot Trayvon Martin in self-defense when a large man approached him. “He recognized me,” Zimmerman said. “He told me he was going to kill me he told me he’d [expletive] shoot me and he punched me in the face.”

Zimmerman told 911 operators that the man said “You’re bragging about that?” before punching him, according to WFTV.

The death of 17-year-old Martin, and Zimmerman’s later acquittal, sparked nationwide outrage over the case, which saw Zimmerman employing Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law to his benefit. The Black Lives Matter movement spawned out of the aftermath of the trial.

Other witnesses inside the restaurant disagreed with Zimmerman’s account, according to WFTV, telling officials that the incident started when he bragged about killing Martin.

Zimmerman could not immediately be reached for comment.

Source

The guy who punched him is a hero.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 05 2016 01:55 GMT
#93039
On August 05 2016 10:43 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 10:31 LegalLord wrote:
George Zimmerman, the man who shot and killed unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin in 2012, claims he was punched by a man in a Sanford, Fla., restaurant over the weekend.

Zimmerman was allegedly bragging about the incident when a man punched him, officials said, according to local news station WFTV.

In a 911 call, Zimmerman alleged that he was explaining to people at a table that he shot Trayvon Martin in self-defense when a large man approached him. “He recognized me,” Zimmerman said. “He told me he was going to kill me he told me he’d [expletive] shoot me and he punched me in the face.”

Zimmerman told 911 operators that the man said “You’re bragging about that?” before punching him, according to WFTV.

The death of 17-year-old Martin, and Zimmerman’s later acquittal, sparked nationwide outrage over the case, which saw Zimmerman employing Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law to his benefit. The Black Lives Matter movement spawned out of the aftermath of the trial.

Other witnesses inside the restaurant disagreed with Zimmerman’s account, according to WFTV, telling officials that the incident started when he bragged about killing Martin.

Zimmerman could not immediately be reached for comment.

Source

The guy who punched him is a hero.

I like how Zimmerman instantly called 911 and claimed it was unprovoked.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
August 05 2016 02:12 GMT
#93040
"The last week should have made obvious to all what has been obvious to most for more than a year. In response to any slight –perceived or real– Donald Trump lashes out viciously and irresponsibly. In Trump’s eyes, disagreement with his actions or his policies warrants incessant name calling and derision: stupid, lying, fat, ugly, weak, failing, idiot –and that’s just his “fellow” Republicans.

He isn’t eschewing political correctness. He is eschewing basic human decency."

- Harvard Republican Club, 8/4/16


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