US Politics Mega-thread - Page 4271

On July 13 2016 12:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


please be flynn please be flynn please be flynn
please don't be newt please dont be newt please dont be newt

On July 13 2016 13:53 NukeD wrote:

You say Hillary or Trump will win?

On July 13 2016 06:50 Plansix wrote:
http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/general/383301-us-politics-mega-thread?page=4244#84868



And this the comment about the sample size being to small. On top of the comments above.

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — When Philando Castile saw the flashing lights in his rearview mirror the night he got shot, it wasn't unusual. He had been pulled over at least 52 times in recent years in and around the Twin Cities and given citations for minor offenses including speeding, driving without a muffler and not wearing a seat belt.

He was assessed at least $6,588 in fines and fees, although more than half of the total 86 violations were dismissed, court records show.

On July 14 2016 01:07 ticklishmusic wrote:


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Hmm

On July 14 2016 01:33 xDaunt wrote:

A couple things. First, it sounds like he was habitually driving around in violation of the law, giving cops ample reason to pull him over. Second, charges are dismissed whenever cops fail to show up at the first court hearings. That's why it is never a bad idea to simply show up at the court hearing before paying the fine, because there's a very good chance that the cop won't show up.

It is not only white officers who abuse their authority. The effect of institutional racism is such that no matter what color the officer abusing the citizen is, in the vast majority of those cases of abuse that citizen will be black or brown. That is what is allowed.

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Chicago is a prime example of this: the city has created a reparations fund for the hundreds of victims who were tortured by former Chicago Police Commander Jon Burge and officers under his command from the 1970s to the early ‘90s.

The victims were electrically shocked, suffocated, and beaten into false confessions that resulted in many of them being convicted and serving time for crimes they didn't commit. One man, Darrell Cannon, spent 24 years in prison for a crime he confessed to but didn't commit. He confessed when officers repeatedly appeared to load a shotgun and after doing so each time put it in his mouth and pulled the trigger. Other men received electric shocks until they confessed . . . Burge got four years in prison, and now receives his full taxpayer-funded pension.

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Every officer in the country should be wearing a body camera that remains activated throughout any interaction they have with the public while on duty. There is no reasonable expectation of privacy for officers when they are on duty and in service to the public. Citizens must also have the right to record police officers as they carry out their public service, provided that they are at a safe distance, based on the circumstances, and not interfering. Witnessing an interaction does not by itself constitute interference.

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Racism is woven into the fabric of our nation. At no time in our history has there been a national consensus that everyone should be equally valued in all areas of life. We are rooted in racism in spite of the better efforts of Americans of all races to change that.

Because of this legacy of racism, police abuse in black and brown communities is generations old. It is nothing new. It has become more visible to mainstream America largely because of the proliferation of personal recording devices, cellphone cameras, video recorders — they're everywhere. We need police officers. We also need them to be held accountable to the communities they serve.

On July 13 2016 02:20 Plansix wrote:

Sounds like the decision was made back in 1999.

On July 14 2016 01:50 Cowboy24 wrote:

You've unintentionally swerved into the truth here.

This is why you'll never see any direct links from Obama to any of the scandals he's been a part of. The same reason why you never had a piece of paper signed by Hitler saying: "Kill all the Jews."

People know what Obama/Clinton want. They don't have to be told because they've all been a part of the same "cabal" since before anyone else can remember. Not to mention they are all wives and husbands and brothers and sisters with each other. Nepotism is strong in the Federal Government, especially in the Obama admin. Add on top of that the incestuous relationship between government, media, and lobbying/special interests and you've got a whole network that can invent, implement, and then cover up all the horrible things Obama/Clinton want done without ever being told to do so by any one person.

Too bad Nixon didn't just tell the prosecutors that he never intended to delete those tapes. Oh wait, I forgot, the "I'm too incompetent to be corrupt!" defense only works for Democrats.

On July 14 2016 01:50 Cowboy24 wrote:

SNIP

On July 13 2016 19:04 Gorsameth wrote:

Don't you think that an outsider like Trump would benefit from having a politician be his VP?
Someone who actually plays the Washington political game and can help him realize his plans.

Is Flynn the preferred choice simply because there is no decent politician willing to be VP or do you think he would actually make a great VP?

Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Clinton 41, Trump 43
Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Clinton 41, Trump 41
Florida: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Trump 42, Clinton 39

Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Quinnipiac Trump 40, Clinton 34, Johnson 9, Stein 3
Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Quinnipiac Trump 37, Clinton 36, Johnson 7, Stein 6
Florida: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Quinnipiac Trump 41, Clinton 36, Johnson 7, Stein 4

The Senate is set to approve a bill intended to change the way police and health care workers treat people struggling with opioid addictions.

The bill is an amalgam of more than a dozen proposals passed through the year in the House and Senate. And while it has lots of new policies and provisions — from creating a task force to study how best to treat pain, to encouraging states to create prescription drug monitoring programs — it doesn't have much money to put them in place.

President Obama had requested $1.1 billion to help pay for more addiction treatment programs and other initiatives. But the version agreed to by House and Senate Republicans last week didn't include all that money. In the end, it will probably get about half that much.

"It's clear that efforts to prevent and treat the opioid epidemic will fall short without additional investments," Sen. Patty Murray, D-Washington, said in a statement after House and Senate negotiators hammered out the final bill.

But Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., argued that the money for treatment has been rising for three years.

"Our friends on the other side say, you have to fund it. We are funding it," he said in a statement on the Senate floor Friday. "And they helped fund it. We've increased funding for opioids already by 542 percent."

Still, Democrats are expected to support the bill even without the additional money.

On July 14 2016 02:42 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


Short answer - he probably would benefit from a politician as VP, but I think the benefits of having General Flynn outweigh the benefits he would receive from a seasoned politician like Newt Gingrich as VP. Trump will have no shortage of seasoned politicians he can fill his cabinet with.

I would say he's my preferred choice because of both of those factors you mention here, granted I am not fully educated on every single VP candidate that he has been vetted. I fully respect someone that high-ranking in the military as having integrity; it's not an easy position to acquire and military life, even for officers, is not an easy path. In the short interview with him, he did seem a little less versed in speaking on political issues than you would expect from a seasoned politician but that doesn't bother me too much because I agreed with his stances on all the issues he did speak of and I'm sure if he's made the VP he will improve in this matter.

I will be extremely disappointed in Trump if he chooses Newt Gingrich as VP over General Flynn.

In other news, the polls released yesterday are likely the result of the last weeks hearings with Trump making crucial gains over Clinton in significant swing states -




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NEW YORK — Wall Street executives are hitting the sell button on the GOP convention in Cleveland next week.

Bankers typically use the quadrennial Republican Party gathering to schmooze clients, host parties and flaunt their connections to the nominee and other senior officials. In 2012, they flooded the Tampa Bay area to celebrate one of the industry’s favorite sons, Mitt Romney, getting the nomination.

But with real estate mogul Donald Trump running on an anti-trade, populist platform — while sporting sky-high unpopularity ratings — many bankers and traders want nothing to do with the convention this year.

Neither do most corporate CEOs. The prospect of Trump bashing trade deals and talking about building a wall with Mexico, coupled with the threat of potentially disruptive protests, is largely keeping the financial world away from Cleveland.

“With Trump you have what is a fairly divisive campaign and you have the potential of unnecessarily offending a whole bunch of people if you show up there in a prominent way,” said Matt McDonald, a partner at consulting firm Hamilton Place Strategies, which does business with some of the nation’s biggest banks. “On top of that, a lot of the people that you might want to get in front of for one reason or another are not going to be there.”

McDonald cited the long roster of senior Republican lawmakers skipping the convention as one major reason financial executives don’t feel the need to raise the flag in Cleveland.

So far, no major Wall Street CEOs have said they plan to attend the convention. JPMorgan Chase, which played a sponsorship role in 2012, declined to do so this year. Goldman Sachs will also be largely absent, as will Morgan Stanley and Bank of America. Citigroup plans only a low-key presence.

And unlike in 2012, when rank-and-file Wall Streeters were all over Tampa, many bankers and lobbyists who typically make the rounds will be taking a pass. “I’m just going to skip it because, frankly, I don’t see the point in going,” said a senior lobbyist for one of the largest banks in the nation. “Usually there is pressure to at least show up, but with Trump you get a pass. No one is going to care if you don’t go.”

At Goldman, typically one of the most politically engaged banks on Wall Street, there may be almost no one at all going to Cleveland. “I asked around and couldn’t find a single person who planned to be there,” said one Goldman executive who declined to be quoted by name. “Most people who want to see someone from the Trump campaign can do it some other place at some other time. And the potential is there for Cleveland to be a complete shit show. It’s a real problem for executives because if you go, you are certainly going to offend women and minority groups within your own company.”

Corporate unease with the GOP convention extends well beyond Wall Street. Google and Coca-Cola, after playing significant roles at Romney’s convention in 2012, backed away this year after pressure from activists.