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As a witness to the removal of fallen U.S. troops from Afghanistan, Army Chaplain Christopher John Antal can’t recall a time when that solemn ceremony wasn’t conducted without the presence of drones passing along the horizon.
They were sleek and quiet, making a gentle humming noise as they flew over the flight lines — where aircraft can be parked and serviced — of the Kandahar airfield in Afghanistan, where he was stationed in 2012. Not everyone had access to the flight lines, according to Antal, but he was responsible for participating in dignified transfer ceremonies, also known as ramp ceremonies, which were set there to greet the caskets of fallen service personnel as they were returned to base, en route to the U.S. On these occasions, he would watch the drones drift in and out, loaded with Hellfire missiles.
“It was [a] stark contrast to the solemnity of what I was doing at the ceremonies,” Antal, a Unitarian Universalist minister, told ABC News about watching the drones during the ceremonies. “When I would watch them and think about where they had been and where they were going, it would break my soul.”
On April 12, Antal resigned his commission as an officer in the Army because of his conscientious objection to the United States’ drone policy. In a letter addressed to Commander-in-Chief Barack Obama, Antal wrote, “The executive branch continues to claim the right to kill anyone, anywhere on Earth, at any time, for secret reasons, based on secret evidence, in a secret process, undertaken by unidentified officials. I refuse to support this policy of unaccountable killing.” In doing so, he joined other previous members of the armed forces who have addressed Obama to criticize his drone strike policy, including four former members of the Air Force who penned a letter in November of 2015 warning the president that the strikes “served as a recruitment tool similar to Guantanamo Bay.”
The White House has defended the use of force in certain situations. "Since his first day in office, President Obama has been clear that the United States will use all available tools of national power to protect the American people from the terrorist threat posed by al-Qa’ida and its associated forces," reads a 2013 fact sheet on policies and procedures for counter-terrorism operations outside the U.S. and areas of active hostilities.
Earlier this year, the Obama administration agreed to publish a redacted version of the so-called playbook for U.S. drone operations overseas. Antal hopes that with the publication, Americans will open their eyes to what is really happening with armed drones. The administration has not made clear when the documents will be released
a republican 'third party' run, and the republican run getting 3rd, is just what the US needs to implement proportional representation. The most likely way that happens is if the establishment parties feel sufficiently threatened by new political forces that they risk losing all influence/power by holding on to FPTP. Go Romney/martinez. :D
The G7 nations have for the first time set a deadline for the ending most fossil fuel subsidies, saying government support for coal, oil and gas should end by 2025.
The leaders of the UK, US, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the European Union encouraged all countries to join them in eliminating “inefficient fossil fuel subsidies” within a decade.
“Given the fact that energy production and use account for around two-thirds of global greenhouse gas emissions, we recognise the crucial role that the energy sector has to play in combatting climate change,” said the leaders’ declaration, issued at the end their summit in Japan. The pledge first entered into G7 (then known as G8) declarations in 2009 but has until now lacked a firm timeline.
Shelagh Whitley, a research fellow at the Overseas Development Institute, called it an “historic day” but said 2020 was a more appropriate date if governments were serious about their commitments to the global climate deal agreed in Paris in December.
Across the G7, subsidies are already falling, assisted by falling commodity prices. A notable exception is the UK, which increased subsidies by opening up new tax breaks for North Sea oil producers. Japan has been criticised for funding new coal projects, both at home and abroad.
I don't see for example Norway cutting down coal subsidies, that would lead to massive exodus from Svalbard, threatening their claim to an insanely vast area of polar seas.
On May 31 2016 04:31 Liquid`Drone wrote: a republican 'third party' run, and the republican run getting 3rd, is just what the US needs to implement proportional representation. The most likely way that happens is if the establishment parties feel sufficiently threatened by new political forces that they risk losing all influence/power by holding on to FPTP. Go Romney/martinez. :D
That's how it happened in Norway anyway.
But it's a bit unlikely that Republican voters don't vote against the Democrat candidate, so for the most likely person to win. A lot of Republicans absolutely loath Trump, know that he is dishonest and not fit whatsoever for the job but will vote for him out of hatred for Clinton. And that's a bad, bad sign. The best you could get would be a Republican Ralph Nader. It hasn't threatened the Democrats enough to make them seriously consider to change the whole system.
Even if one of the parties loses the election because of a third candidate, they have to much in line for reconsidering the two party system.
One of the reasons the situation is entirely different than in Norway is that the divide left right is absolutely abysmal in the US, and there is a lot of fear and hatred for the other side. Add to that the racial question (I think the Republican are basically capitalizing almost exclusively on white resentment, and that's how they get people to vote against their most basic interest), and the historical divide North South, and you get two Americas, that are logically represented by two (and only two) parties...
An independent run will only take the blame for a loss from where it belongs (Trump) and move it elsewhere. Trump and Trumpism should be allowed to lose, and lose badly, so hopefully we never see it again.
On May 31 2016 04:54 Introvert wrote: An independent run will only take the blame for a loss from where it belongs (Trump) and move it elsewhere. Trump and Trumpism should be allowed to lose, and lose badly, so hopefully we never see it again.
Clinton is sliding in the polls against Trump even in safe Democratic states like Oregon. The email scandal is getting worse since the IG report. The FBI interview is looming. It's no longer a safe bet.
On May 31 2016 04:31 Liquid`Drone wrote: a republican 'third party' run, and the republican run getting 3rd, is just what the US needs to implement proportional representation. The most likely way that happens is if the establishment parties feel sufficiently threatened by new political forces that they risk losing all influence/power by holding on to FPTP. Go Romney/martinez. :D
That's how it happened in Norway anyway.
Good thing it's a republic. For America, I think 2 parties is far better.
A democratic 'third party' run, and the democratic run getting 3rd, is just what the US needs to implement proportional representation. The most likely way that happens is if the establishment parties feel sufficiently threatened by new political forces that they risk losing all influence/power by holding on to FPTP. Go Bernie/Warren! :D
On May 31 2016 04:54 Introvert wrote: An independent run will only take the blame for a loss from where it belongs (Trump) and move it elsewhere. Trump and Trumpism should be allowed to lose, and lose badly, so hopefully we never see it again.
Trump is on course to wreck Hillary. These retards on the right need to get out of the way.
On May 31 2016 04:54 Introvert wrote: An independent run will only take the blame for a loss from where it belongs (Trump) and move it elsewhere. Trump and Trumpism should be allowed to lose, and lose badly, so hopefully we never see it again.
Trump is on course to wreck Hillary. These retards on the right need to get out of the way.
On May 31 2016 04:54 Introvert wrote: An independent run will only take the blame for a loss from where it belongs (Trump) and move it elsewhere. Trump and Trumpism should be allowed to lose, and lose badly, so hopefully we never see it again.
Trump is on course to wreck Hillary. These retards on the right need to get out of the way.
If this email thing continues, he may win. I didn't expect to even see what we've seen so far.
I don't know what your second sentence means. You talking about the third party people?
On May 31 2016 04:54 Introvert wrote: An independent run will only take the blame for a loss from where it belongs (Trump) and move it elsewhere. Trump and Trumpism should be allowed to lose, and lose badly, so hopefully we never see it again.
Trump is on course to wreck Hillary. These retards on the right need to get out of the way.
If this email thing continues, he may win. I didn't expect to even see what we've seen so far.
I don't know what your second sentence means. You talking about the third party people?
Presumably Republicans who refuse to get behind a man who hijacked their party.
The establishment left is strongly contemplating whether it will be more difficult to ram Hillary down Americans throat or make Bernie palatable to their corporate donors (by promising to make him ineffectual). Her possibly losing California before the convention would only make the questions louder.
I just think it's funny that Hillary supporters act like she/they wouldn't be talking about this every chance they could if Bernie had a bunch of FBI agents investigating his activities.
On May 31 2016 04:54 Introvert wrote: An independent run will only take the blame for a loss from where it belongs (Trump) and move it elsewhere. Trump and Trumpism should be allowed to lose, and lose badly, so hopefully we never see it again.
Trump is on course to wreck Hillary. These retards on the right need to get out of the way.
Are you still not willing to take my bet over a Hillary vs Trump election?
The thing is Trump is riding a surge, but even if the emails won't "blow over" (and they shouldn't, at best for Clinton she didn't ask a rather important question about State department policy), Hillary (and Bill) have decades of scandals guaranteed to to sink them, and none of them have. And Trump is still a very controversial candidate. At least some of his current momentum is going to fade, and the GOP will still have to face the risk of a lot of Republicans staying home due to Never Trump, risking the Dems taking not only the white house, but the Senate and cutting heavily into their majority in the house. Thats why some republicans want a "third party" candidate that is really just a reason to get the never trump crowd to the polls to vote in the senate and house races.
Short of a indictment, which still is at best a coin flip, Clinton is still most likely the next POTUS. And if Trump leads to a surge in democratic turn out (which looks likely) along with a lesser republican turn out (which is possible, I'm not sure if its "likely") the GOP is looking at a worst case scenario of the Democrats having the White House senate and enough of the House to get stuff done. And that is the real reason there's talk of a Romney or who ever ticked, not anti trumpism as much as fear that Trump will lead to lower GOP and much higher Dem turn out.