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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On May 28 2016 10:43 SK.Testie wrote: I'm not against paternity leave, but you'd be hard pressed to argue that it's not an inconvenience to pay someone for not working. He's factually correct. Only if you have a very short term view of how employees and in general your community is invested in. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
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oBlade
United States5760 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15723 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On May 28 2016 10:51 SK.Testie wrote: To the community and country it's great, which is why it should be part of any company that can afford it. But to the business itself, it's definitely a direct inconvenience in the short term. There are lots of things that are inconveniences to businesses in the short term. Its called the cost of doing business. Making a big deal out of this one is pretty narrowminded. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On May 28 2016 11:08 Rebs wrote: There are lots of things that are inconveniences to businesses in the short term. Its called the cost of doing business. Making a big deal out of this one is pretty narrowminded. who made a big deal out of it? all I saw was a short clip saying it was an inconvenience, and a few posts in an onlin forum; I haven't seen any big deals made. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23450 Posts
On May 28 2016 11:19 zlefin wrote: who made a big deal out of it? all I saw was a short clip saying it was an inconvenience, and a few posts in an onlin forum; I haven't seen any big deals made. Well I would say spending money to put it together and tweeting it from the candidates account is trying to make it a big deal, but seems like just a tone-deaf ad to me. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On May 28 2016 05:30 Naracs_Duc wrote: Fuck Obama's regulations with its job growth, high approval rating, health care reforms, finance reforms, reduced war involvement, tax reduction, market growth, and increased social reforms. Only Bernie, Trump, and the GOP are against that. I remain firmly convinced that, just as Bush Jr. saw a massive unilateral over-commitment of our military and resources abroad in response to 9/11 (quite a shame: his administration, raised the amount of international development aid [esp. in regards to HIV/AIDS] the US gave during his term, the Obama administration has since seen several [unnecessary] cuts), Obama has similarly overcompensated in the other direction, in terms of being overly, hrmmm, passive? withdrawn? Difficult for me to put it in good terms right now. I understand why he did and his own mentality regarding the role of the US in the modern world (and in putting much more stock in the use of drones to fight terrorism), I simply don't agree with it and believe in a much more activist role in the US, especially over the next one/two decades where it's critical for setting the tone of the next century. We likely needed to leave some US forces based in Iraq to forestall the development of ISIS, and we're facing issues in Afghanistan because of the commitment to a firm deadline for withdrawal, and my opinion on Syria (and Libya) is quite clear. This doesn't diminish the positive accomplishments he's achieved re. US-Cuban relations, the Iran deal (in all likelihood), the recent agreements with Vietnam, and overall repairing US image and brand abroad after a fairly disastrous second Bush term (let's be honest though, it was mostly Iraq). However, with really the exception of the Iran deal, the rapproachement between the US and Cuba/Vietnam were bound to have occurred recently, due to shifting geopolitics and attitudes since the Cold War, and Vietnam is extremely anxious about recent Chinese moves/buildup in the South China Seas (did you know Vietnam is the 5th largest arms purchaser in the world? I didn't, but I probably should've guessed). | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On May 28 2016 11:19 zlefin wrote: who made a big deal out of it? all I saw was a short clip saying it was an inconvenience, and a few posts in an onlin forum; I haven't seen any big deals made. UHhhh the fact that its the focus of speech rhetoric and campaign ads ? But let me excuse myself for using the wrong wording since it rubbed you hard... "making any kind of deal out of it is pretty narrowminded"... happy ? | ||
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OkMong
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I'm not really religious. Was that the story behind sodom and gomorrah? | ||
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
On May 28 2016 13:34 Toadesstern wrote: as in, possibly on the same scale as meteors comming down to kill people who behaved badly? + Show Spoiler + I'm not really religious. Was that the story behind sodom and gomorrah? Nope. | ||
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
On May 18 2016 17:44 Adreme wrote: Uhhh I am actually curious what you read if you get high treason out of even the worst interpretation of whatever she did. I assume this is about the email thing which what she did was not even against the rules let alone the intentionally leaking of classified documents that you are basically implying happened which would be needed for treason. Its not political connections its just that no crime was committed except for maybe a crime of poor judgement (though considering her email server seems to have held up better then the government one I would even cast doubt on that) and even then I just think it seems like a very overblown story. Basically you got baited by people who want to cast an image on someone (like how they admitted they set up a Benghazi commission to tank her numbers) and are letting the people with an agenda be the people who inform you. I mostly came to my conclusion from Trey Gowdy videos interogating her about the email situation, where she quitte obviously lied about lots of stuff. Thers other vids that show her as person of very low moral and political integrity. | ||
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
On May 28 2016 12:44 OkMong wrote: Trump winning the general elections would be a Biblical-level event Yes, like son of god coming to earth :D | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
On May 28 2016 15:52 NukeD wrote: I mostly came to my conclusion from Trey Gowdy videos interogating her about the email situation, where she quitte obviously lied about lots of stuff. Thers other vids that show her as person of very low moral and political integrity. https://youtu.be/_gAUhgBgnb8 https://youtu.be/-dY77j6uBHI Fact checking of Hillary lying for 13 minutes straight | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23450 Posts
Yeah, it's not a very good video for Hillary. That's not even the bad one, there's a much worse one out there that's more Trump's style. | ||
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
On May 28 2016 16:15 GreenHorizons wrote: Yeah, it's not a very good video for Hillary. That's not even the bad one, there's a much worse one out there that's more Trump's style. Ye i knew I shouldn't have posted that one. Takes away from the more relevant one which is the Trey Gowdy video. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
And unlike her counterpart in the GOP, Cruz, she doesn't seem to be evil, her agenda is more or less about the status-quo while keeping power and making her stakeholders (establishment leaders, large donors) satisfied and that's by no means that bad for US or the world, especially if she at least a little bit acts on the ideas she's acquired from Bernie to take over some of his demographics. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45002 Posts
On May 28 2016 10:37 SK.Testie wrote: Hillary's new attack line seems a little more upbeat, entertaining and fun. Doesn't hurt that she's using someone with actual charisma. He's right though. Paying someone for not working is an inconvenience to business. Yeah this one-liner comment from Trump even seems like a quote mine too, and isn't nearly as staggering as some of the other things he's said. One could easily say something like "Paid family leave is bad for business... but I hope that businesses care enough about their employees to allow for a respectable amount of time off during pregnancy/ birth/ raising babies, etc." Quote mine: "Paid family leave is bad for business." Meh. | ||
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