EPTAnd the invisible hand of the free market only works within a functioning government regulating the market. Adam Smith’s writings are very clear that the government needs to make the market transparent and assist those that fail in the market so they can rejoin the system. He, unlike Ryan, was not into the idea of a meritocracy.
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Plansix
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And the invisible hand of the free market only works within a functioning government regulating the market. Adam Smith’s writings are very clear that the government needs to make the market transparent and assist those that fail in the market so they can rejoin the system. He, unlike Ryan, was not into the idea of a meritocracy. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
That said, it's a terrible idea. Might be the thing that gets Trump into the single digits with women. I mean, look at John Edwards. And for a "shrewd" negotiator, Trump saying this early he'd threaten default is pretty dumb. That's the equivalent of saying you'll go nuclear before even talks have started. | ||
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SK.Testie
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zeo
Serbia6298 Posts
On May 16 2016 22:39 SK.Testie wrote: Please not Gingrich though it's definitely likely... Jeff Sessions Jim Webb Rand Paul What about Ron Paul? edit: I think he would pull in a lot of the Bernie crowd that hates Hilary. edit2: Well just looked up on wikipedia that he is 80 years old...  | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
I'm also envisaging some weird scenario where they run Trump with a fairly sane VP (or one acceptable to some moderates and most conservatives). But then the Democrats will run ads about that. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
On May 16 2016 22:41 zeo wrote: What about Ron Paul? edit: I think he would pull in a lot of the Bernie crowd that hates Hilary. edit2: Well just looked up on wikipedia that he is 80 years old... Definitely a cool pick though that's unlikely and probably not the best idea.. but.. that's an exciting pick imo. Ron Paul was a really liked and respected guy at least and since he was around when the nation was founded he has intimate knowledge of what the founders really wanted. Probably wouldn't agree as he likely detests Trump iirc he did attack him before. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28689 Posts
Gingrich seems by far most likely from everything I've seen, one of the few 'sufficiently important' republicans who hasn't been too critical of trump in the past for him to still be viable. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Though Bernie Sanders is still a long-shot to overcome Hillary Clinton and win the Democratic nomination, his health-care plan is the most popular of the three remaining candidates, according to the results of a Gallup survey out Monday. Sanders has called for replacing the Affordable Care Act with a federally funded program providing insurance for all Americans. Asked their opinions of three separate scenarios for the future of Obamacare, 58 percent to 37 percent said they would like to see the 2010 health care law replaced with care for all, as advocated by Sanders. As far as flat out repealing the Affordable Care Act, which Donald Trump has vowed to do, 51 percent to 45 percent expressed support. And in terms of keeping the health care law as it is, just 48 percent said they would support that, while 49 percent said they would oppose. Hillary Clinton has by and large advocated for the law to remain in place as it currently exists. An important caveat: Gallup did not attach any of the candidates' names to the separate questions. Among Democrats and those leaning toward the party, 73 percent to 22 percent said they would support something akin to Sanders' plan, while among Republicans and leaners, 41 percent would support and 55 percent would oppose. One-in-four Democrats and leaners said they wanted to see Obamacare repealed, while 72 percent said they did not. Among Republicans and leaners, eight in 10 said they would favor scrapping it, as Trump has advocated, while just 17 percent said they would not. As far as keeping the Affordable Care Act in place, 79 percent to 19 percent of Democrats and leaners voiced support, while 82 percent to 16 percent of Republicans opposed. Gallup collected its results from May 6-8, surveying 1,549 adults nationwide via landlines and cellphones. The margin of error is plus or minus 3 percentage points. Source | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
On May 16 2016 22:41 zeo wrote: What about Ron Paul? edit: I think he would pull in a lot of the Bernie crowd that hates Hilary. edit2: Well just looked up on wikipedia that he is 80 years old... Definitely a cool pick though that's unlikely and probably not be the best idea.. but.. that's an exciting pick imo. Ron Paul was a really liked and respected guy at least and since he was around when the nation was founded he has intimate knowledge of what the founders really wanted. But yeah Ron probably wouldn't agree as he likely detests Trump iirc he did attack him before. Sessions is 69... How much more does he have ahead of him? Holy shit. Webb is 70! He doesn't look 70. And you're right, should have expected that considering the nam jokes in the Dem debates. And Eri, it's not Anti-Immigrant. It's anti-Illegal. There are legal channels to get into a country. Walking across a 1900 mile border isn't one of them. A distinction the left commonly loves to leave out. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Every time people get polled about healthcare I roll my eyes. It's like asking "do you prefer a filet mignon from a Michelin restaurant, a sandwich or nothing?" without noting price or anything else. Actually, a better analogy would be if you want a BMW, a Corolla or a beater b/c of associated maintenance costs. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28689 Posts
I think it's possible to favor strict immigration policies and be opposed to illegal immigration without being anti-immigrant. Imo, many Norwegian politicians have managed this. But Trump's rhetoric (to a much greater degree than his suggested policies) makes him anti-immigrant. (alternatively, stupid, but I actually think he is very intelligent and well aware of the consequences of his statements. ) | ||
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kwizach
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On May 16 2016 18:57 GreenHorizons wrote: And the establishment wonders why people won't get behind Hillary and "the party". + Show Spoiler + People do get behind Hillary and the party, which is why she's beating Sanders handily, and which is why the overwhelming majority of Sanders supporters will support her in the general election. A few of them failing to understand the rules during the Nevada state convention is hardly evidence of the contrary (and the same goes for a video that may very well have been taken from the Sanders side of the room, thus resulting in "Nays" sounding louder -- there were more eligible Clinton delegates present, whether you like it or not). | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
But that would anger some people for rewarding them from breaking the law, as if the current system doesn’t already encourage that. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
In a surprise move Monday, the Supreme Court punted on a major Obamacare case challenging the law's contraceptive mandate, and specifically, how it accommodates religious nonprofits that object to birth control. The Supreme Court sent the case back to lower courts to examine an alternative accommodation to the mandate that the court had been briefed on by both parties in the case after the oral arguments. The challenge, known as Zubik v. Burwell, was a consolidation of cases brought by religious nonprofits, including The Little Sister’s of the Poor, who objected to the work-around set up by the Obama administration to provide contraceptive coverage to employees of organizations opposed to birth control on religious grounds. The non-profits said that even filling out the form or sending a government the letter declaring their objections to covering birth control was a burden on their faith, because it set in motion the process by which their employees received the coverage from their insurers, though that coverage was not paid for or part of the employer plans. Lower courts’ have overwhelmingly rejected the challengers’ argument that the workaround violated 1993’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA), though one appeals court ruled in their favor. (That case was not among those consolidated for the Supreme Court). In sending the case back down to lower courts, the Supreme Court signaled that it believed a compromise could be worked out that didn't involve weighing the larger issues involved in the RFRA challenge. Source | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15713 Posts
Employers trying to take ownership of their employees is just plain scary. I see an employee-employer relationship as much less intimate than these religious groups are implying. | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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Plansix
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
On May 17 2016 00:04 Barrin wrote: I see most of my views are being well represented. Testie for VP! lol. Your sig is great; a balance much be reached. Be careful, throwing your hat in with me officially has you labelled as anti-love, anti-peace, anti-tolerance, but pro-apocalypse or something like that. Thank you kindly, will do my best to not get you the same label. One day I aspire to oust a liberal PM in the future and have great diplomatic relations with your first female president Ivanka Trump. | ||
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