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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-16 17:27:09
May 16 2016 17:20 GMT
#76501
On May 17 2016 01:58 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2016 01:48 Plansix wrote:
I don’t think nick names are going to anyone anywhere, GOP or DNC. It just seems like a silly exerciser that some marketing experts believe will get traction.

Given the body count in the GOP primary, you may want to reconsider. Cruz will never be known as anything other than Lyin Ted.


I really think we just don't know yet. The GOP primary was puzzling for about 600 reasons. Was Donald in the right place at the right time, or did he somehow transfer the primary? Can Trump transform a general election? I don't know.

We have a million different metrics to show that democratic voters are just different, though. I'm so curious to see how things workout. Religious rates and a million other things separate democrats from republicans.

On May 17 2016 02:17 Naracs_Duc wrote:
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On May 17 2016 01:55 LegalLord wrote:
I'm gonna go with Tiny Hands Trump if we need a nickname for him.


I prefer the focus was away from his trademark name.

Daffy Donald
Doofus Donald
etc...


Doesn't history show painting someone as an idiot is not necessarily a good thing? Bush and Reagan didn't exactly suffer. And when you consider how many voters are poorly educated and just kinda low tier humans, it makes sense. Pointing out someone is stupid to a group of stupid people will not learn you points.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-16 17:27:03
May 16 2016 17:26 GMT
#76502
Sorry double post
CannonsNCarriers
Profile Joined April 2010
United States638 Posts
May 16 2016 17:41 GMT
#76503
Don the Fraud (Trump U, his fake tan, his fake hair thing, his fake billions, his golf cheating, his fake policy, his loyal lying goons).
Dun tuch my cheezbrgr
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9285 Posts
May 16 2016 17:43 GMT
#76504
Why not just use Trump's own inventions and call him Lyin' Don or Little Don?
You're now breathing manually
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 16 2016 17:47 GMT
#76505
On May 17 2016 02:43 Sent. wrote:
Why not just use Trump's own inventions and call him Lyin' Don or Little Don?

Little Donny makes him sound like a cartoon strip from the 1940s, I think that is the way to go.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22157 Posts
May 16 2016 17:47 GMT
#76506
Again, what use does trying to force a nickname have? What damage could it possibly do that is not already done by, well... everything he has said and done to this point.

Trying to fight Trump on character is pointless because there is nothing to gain, people who support him do so against overwhelming evidence that he is utterly unfit for a station as important as Presidency. A goofy nickname is not going to change their mind at this point.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Naracs_Duc
Profile Joined August 2015
746 Posts
May 16 2016 17:49 GMT
#76507
On May 17 2016 02:20 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2016 01:58 xDaunt wrote:
On May 17 2016 01:48 Plansix wrote:
I don’t think nick names are going to anyone anywhere, GOP or DNC. It just seems like a silly exerciser that some marketing experts believe will get traction.

Given the body count in the GOP primary, you may want to reconsider. Cruz will never be known as anything other than Lyin Ted.


I really think we just don't know yet. The GOP primary was puzzling for about 600 reasons. Was Donald in the right place at the right time, or did he somehow transfer the primary? Can Trump transform a general election? I don't know.

We have a million different metrics to show that democratic voters are just different, though. I'm so curious to see how things workout. Religious rates and a million other things separate democrats from republicans.

Show nested quote +
On May 17 2016 02:17 Naracs_Duc wrote:
On May 17 2016 01:55 LegalLord wrote:
I'm gonna go with Tiny Hands Trump if we need a nickname for him.


I prefer the focus was away from his trademark name.

Daffy Donald
Doofus Donald
etc...


Doesn't history show painting someone as an idiot is not necessarily a good thing? Bush and Reagan didn't exactly suffer. And when you consider how many voters are poorly educated and just kinda low tier humans, it makes sense. Pointing out someone is stupid to a group of stupid people will not learn you points.


Its less the specific smear and more it might be better to spend as much energy calling him Donald instead of his current brand name Trump.

Dr. Do-Very-Little Donald
Donald Ducks
Donald Drumph
etc...
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9285 Posts
May 16 2016 18:00 GMT
#76508
On May 17 2016 02:47 Gorsameth wrote:
Again, what use does trying to force a nickname have? What damage could it possibly do that is not already done by, well... everything he has said and done to this point.

Trying to fight Trump on character is pointless because there is nothing to gain, people who support him do so against overwhelming evidence that he is utterly unfit for a station as important as Presidency. A goofy nickname is not going to change their mind at this point.


If Clinton can come up with a goofy nickname for Trump she can convince simple people who don't like Trump to vote for her instead of staying at home.
You're now breathing manually
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-16 18:03:09
May 16 2016 18:01 GMT
#76509
On May 17 2016 02:47 Gorsameth wrote:
Again, what use does trying to force a nickname have? What damage could it possibly do that is not already done by, well... everything he has said and done to this point.

Trying to fight Trump on character is pointless because there is nothing to gain, people who support him do so against overwhelming evidence that he is utterly unfit for a station as important as Presidency. A goofy nickname is not going to change their mind at this point.

A nickname makes it stick. Most people have a general perception of a candidate but aren't very good at articulating it. Nicknames like Lyin Ted, Crooked Hillary, 1-for-41, etc. use that perception and make it stick. People already think of Cruz as a liar, Hillary as a dishonest politician, and Kasich as someone who doesn't know when to quit. It's a very good visceral reaction that comes from the nickname.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5956 Posts
May 16 2016 18:03 GMT
#76510
Do people think Hillary was "qualified" to be a US senator in 2000?
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22157 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-16 18:08:27
May 16 2016 18:08 GMT
#76511
On May 17 2016 03:03 oBlade wrote:
Do people think Hillary was "qualified" to be a US senator in 2000?

I don't know, didnt pay a lot of attention to her at the time but the standard for the senate, where you are 1 out of 100 out of less then 1/3 of the government, is a lot lot lot lower then that of the leader of the free world.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 16 2016 18:19 GMT
#76512
This could be how the Clinton camp wins by picking Warren who gets under his skin.

Donald Trump has been forced to clarify that he is “not stupid” and challenged Sadiq Khan to an IQ test during an interview with Good Morning Britain on Monday.

The Republican presidential hopeful told Piers Morgan that he does not “care” about the new Mayor of London’s comments, after Khan attacked Trump for being ignorant.

The 69-year-old told Morgan: “Well let’s go and do an IQ test.”

Morgan told Trump: “He says you will make both of our countries less safe, he says ‘I hope Donald Trump loses the election’.

“He says ‘my message to Trump and his team is that your views of Islam are ignorant’.”

Trump responded: “Well when he won I wished him well, now I don’t care about him.

“I mean it doesn’t make any difference to me about him, let’s see how well he does. Let’s see if he’s a good mayor.”

Following this morning’s interview, a spokesman for Khan said: “Donald Trump’s views are ignorant, divisive and dangerous - it’s the politics of fear at its worst and will be rejected at the ballot box just as it was in London.

“Sadiq has spent his whole life fighting extremism, but Trump’s remarks make that fight much harder for us all - it plays straight into the extremists hands and makes both our countries less safe.”

Responding to whether the new mayor would take an IQ test, his spokesman said: “Ignorance is not the same thing as lack of intelligence.”


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 16 2016 18:30 GMT
#76513
Forced to clarify he's not stupid lol

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 16 2016 18:32 GMT
#76514
Man, I hope he keeps challenging everyone who criticizes him to an IQ test. Then when someone already has their scores from and release them, Trump can make up an excuse not to release his.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
May 16 2016 18:36 GMT
#76515
Isn't Trumps IQ 159? Or is that a meme. It's tough keeping track with all this meme power floating around.
Also, obligatory fauxcahontas
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
May 16 2016 18:37 GMT
#76516
right because IQ tests are accurate measures of intelligence. Not even the guy who invented them thought that.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23759 Posts
May 16 2016 18:40 GMT
#76517
On May 17 2016 03:32 Plansix wrote:
Man, I hope he keeps challenging everyone who criticizes him to an IQ test. Then when someone already has their scores from and release them, Trump can make up an excuse not to release his.


Speaking about releasing, now that Hillary made the expected move of once again changing what she wants before releasing her transcripts to Trump's tax returns, can we agree if he does she'll be out of excuses not to release them (even if they never made sense and were simply a lie to cover up she thought it wasn't politically advantageous to release them)?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
May 16 2016 18:43 GMT
#76518
On May 17 2016 03:32 Plansix wrote:
Man, I hope he keeps challenging everyone who criticizes him to an IQ test. Then when someone already has their scores from and release them, Trump can make up an excuse not to release his.


We all laugh until he scores 200 or some shit.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22157 Posts
May 16 2016 18:43 GMT
#76519
On May 17 2016 03:40 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2016 03:32 Plansix wrote:
Man, I hope he keeps challenging everyone who criticizes him to an IQ test. Then when someone already has their scores from and release them, Trump can make up an excuse not to release his.


Speaking about releasing, now that Hillary made the expected move of once again changing what she wants before releasing her transcripts to Trump's tax returns, can we agree if he does she'll be out of excuses not to release them (even if they never made sense and were simply a lie to cover up she thought it wasn't politically advantageous to release them)?

no one but you gives a fuck about her transcripts.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23759 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-16 18:55:06
May 16 2016 18:44 GMT
#76520
On May 17 2016 03:43 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2016 03:40 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 17 2016 03:32 Plansix wrote:
Man, I hope he keeps challenging everyone who criticizes him to an IQ test. Then when someone already has their scores from and release them, Trump can make up an excuse not to release his.


Speaking about releasing, now that Hillary made the expected move of once again changing what she wants before releasing her transcripts to Trump's tax returns, can we agree if he does she'll be out of excuses not to release them (even if they never made sense and were simply a lie to cover up she thought it wasn't politically advantageous to release them)?

no one but you gives a fuck about her transcripts.


Yeah, there's at least a few million of us, but I guess it's more comfortable in the bubble. What no one cares about are Donald's Tax returns. Except people who want to nail him on his net worth (from what I understand, he's just going to say that his taxes don't reveal his true fortune anyway).

Also since Kwiz's MamaJean story about NV repeated the Nina Turner being booed by Bernie supporters propaganda, figured I'd show people the whole speech and let them decide for themselves whether they were booing her or Democratic party BS.

+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/731834306989981698
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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