US Politics Mega-thread - Page 3827

On May 17 2016 03:52 ticklishmusic wrote:
lets continue to hold hillary to a separate, higher bar shall we

i feel like people's opinions about the transcripts are almost a litmus test at this point. when they come out they'll be a rorschach test

i expect her to come out with the transcripts after the primary is over, though i dont particularly care. obama will probably be like "for crying out loud its the same stuff i say at commencements" if people try to make a fuss about it

On May 17 2016 04:00 GreenHorizons wrote:


What separate higher bar? She and her supporters keep saying that, but can't point to what speeches others aren't releasing.

The CIA's Inspector General's office admitted it accidentally erased its copy of the Senate Intelligence Committee's long-delayed and highly controversial 2015 torture report, Yahoo News reported.

According to Yahoo, the nearly 7,000-page report was deleted in 2015. First, a document was "mistakingly" deleted, then the disk itself.

"The deletion of the document has been portrayed by agency officials to Senate investigators as an 'inadvertent' foul up by the inspector general. In what one intelligence community source described as a series of errors straight 'out of the Keystone Cops,'" Yahoo reported.

While there are more copies of the Senate's torture report, the incident sounded the alarm for Senate intel committee staffers who had worked for several years preparing the report and fighting with the CIA over its contents and its release. At one point, it was revealed that the CIA had spied on the Senate computers where staffers had been working.

The fact that it was the inspector general's office – which is supposed to be an impartial check on the CIA– that deleted the report only added to frustration within the Senate's intel committee when they were first alerted of the breach last summer, Yahoo reported.

On May 17 2016 04:30 Plansix wrote:
How did they erase all the entire report and all the information gathered to compile the report? More importantly, why can’t they just write a new one? How the hell was all that information on one computer? There is no way that a single person worked on the report.

On May 17 2016 04:45 ticklishmusic wrote:
idk why bother with this charade, it just makes the cia look incompetent

On May 17 2016 04:00 GreenHorizons wrote:


What separate higher bar? She and her supporters keep saying that, but can't point to what speeches others aren't releasing.

On May 17 2016 04:59 Naracs_Duc wrote:


The bar where Sanders doesn't need a plan, just a promise for change that will magically happen when the GOP majority magically leaves and manufacturing just magically comes back while 15 trillion in spending is okay while hilary's 10 trillion in spending makes her a corporate shill.

The bar where Hilary uses normal nomenclature in a video for decades past is more anti-black than Bernie calling blacks violent psychopaths is simply "out of context."

The bar where almost every single democratic ally in the house and senate already are supportive and wanting to help Hilary push forward her plans, but they are derided by you for not wanting to do what an old white guy says.

The part where Hilary is 2-3 million votes ahead of Sanders but SHE is the one you accuse of being unlikable.

The part where Bernie could not even tell people whether or not he could even break up big banks when asked directly, or (after hounding Hilary for it for months) eventually said he'd just do what hilary was saying she'd do and use Dodd Frank to make his big attack on the banks.

The fact that he keeps not saying anything, only doing the things Hilary and Obama already are doing, all while telling people not to trust the DNC or Democrats in his attempt to ensure a republican house and senate.

Bernie is dangerous to liberals--much more than Trump. Not because Trump has less dangerous goals--but Bernie is much more competent at actually following through with his dangerous plans than trump.

On May 17 2016 05:07 CannonsNCarriers wrote:
Bernie Bonus: his supporters are thugs who try to use heckler's vetos to shut down delegate processes. Hillary won Nevada by 5% but they tried to bully their way into a Sanders "Win" in Nevada by shouting and yelling and refusing to abide by the voted results. We hear endless whining about how the system is Rigged and Corrupt, but these Berniebros certainly love trying to overturn Democratic processes via thuggery.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/15/chaos_at_nevada_democratic_convention_dnc_leaders_flee_building_as_sanders_supporters_demand_recount.html

EDIT: the Nevada caucus results were 52.6% Hillary, 47.3% Bernie. No amount of yelling and intimidation should result in a Bernie "Win" when he lost at the voting level.