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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 09 2016 17:40 GMT
#75461
On May 10 2016 02:29 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 11:03 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:51 Introvert wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:38 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:34 Introvert wrote:
Only reason the dumb pledge was necessary was because of Trump's whining about being "treated fairly." And he was still hedging even after he signed it. Trump deserves no loyalty, and I assume most of the other 60% of GOP primary voters would agree. Paul Ryan isn't obliged to go along with every asinine comment Trump makes. Especially considering that his own district went against Trump like 2:1.

I have my own issues with Ryan, but his comments were 100% correct and appropriate. If Trump says he doesn't want certain people, then they are released to go elsewhere.

Majorities of republican voters are supporting Trump and his message. If the GOP isn't going to support Trump, then they will be flaunting the will of their voters. I don't think that such action will end well for the GOP.


He didn't have a majority in a single state until New York, if memory serves. He has like 40% of the popular vote. He's deeply polarizing, and chances are, quite toxic. So imo they are smart to stay away. Remember he only got close because of the various front-runner biased state rules.

He hasn't a majority of the vote in the early states because he has been running against a large field. Once the field shrank down to four candidate, he was reliably scoring majorities in the states that he ran. So yes, I think that it is fair to say that a majority of republicans are supporting him now. They may not find him to be their perfect candidate (myself included), but they are going to back him as the best option nonetheless.


That's either a straight-up lie or a just complete ignorance, xDaunt. He never got a majority in a state while Rubio was in the race, and it took him a month after Rubio dropped out and there were only 3 people in the race to get his first majority in New York.

Unless I missed something.

Meant three candidates.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 09 2016 17:41 GMT
#75462
On May 10 2016 02:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 11:03 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:51 Introvert wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:38 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:34 Introvert wrote:
Only reason the dumb pledge was necessary was because of Trump's whining about being "treated fairly." And he was still hedging even after he signed it. Trump deserves no loyalty, and I assume most of the other 60% of GOP primary voters would agree. Paul Ryan isn't obliged to go along with every asinine comment Trump makes. Especially considering that his own district went against Trump like 2:1.

I have my own issues with Ryan, but his comments were 100% correct and appropriate. If Trump says he doesn't want certain people, then they are released to go elsewhere.

Majorities of republican voters are supporting Trump and his message. If the GOP isn't going to support Trump, then they will be flaunting the will of their voters. I don't think that such action will end well for the GOP.


He didn't have a majority in a single state until New York, if memory serves. He has like 40% of the popular vote. He's deeply polarizing, and chances are, quite toxic. So imo they are smart to stay away. Remember he only got close because of the various front-runner biased state rules.

He hasn't a majority of the vote in the early states because he has been running against a large field. Once the field shrank down to four candidate, he was reliably scoring majorities in the states that he ran. So yes, I think that it is fair to say that a majority of republicans are supporting him now. They may not find him to be their perfect candidate (myself included), but they are going to back him as the best option nonetheless.

You are going to vote for this lunatic?

Wow. Just wow.

Better him than Hillary, who is demonstrably incompetent.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 09 2016 17:44 GMT
#75463
On May 10 2016 02:41 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 02:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 09 2016 11:03 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:51 Introvert wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:38 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:34 Introvert wrote:
Only reason the dumb pledge was necessary was because of Trump's whining about being "treated fairly." And he was still hedging even after he signed it. Trump deserves no loyalty, and I assume most of the other 60% of GOP primary voters would agree. Paul Ryan isn't obliged to go along with every asinine comment Trump makes. Especially considering that his own district went against Trump like 2:1.

I have my own issues with Ryan, but his comments were 100% correct and appropriate. If Trump says he doesn't want certain people, then they are released to go elsewhere.

Majorities of republican voters are supporting Trump and his message. If the GOP isn't going to support Trump, then they will be flaunting the will of their voters. I don't think that such action will end well for the GOP.


He didn't have a majority in a single state until New York, if memory serves. He has like 40% of the popular vote. He's deeply polarizing, and chances are, quite toxic. So imo they are smart to stay away. Remember he only got close because of the various front-runner biased state rules.

He hasn't a majority of the vote in the early states because he has been running against a large field. Once the field shrank down to four candidate, he was reliably scoring majorities in the states that he ran. So yes, I think that it is fair to say that a majority of republicans are supporting him now. They may not find him to be their perfect candidate (myself included), but they are going to back him as the best option nonetheless.

You are going to vote for this lunatic?

Wow. Just wow.

Better him than Hillary, who is demonstrably incompetent.

Considering that Trump just said the nation can never default on the debt because the government prints the money, I find this reasoning to be questionable. Even as a know nothing high school freshmen, I knew that printing more money to pay a debt sounded too easy.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 18:07:11
May 09 2016 18:06 GMT
#75464
On May 10 2016 02:44 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 02:41 xDaunt wrote:
On May 10 2016 02:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 09 2016 11:03 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:51 Introvert wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:38 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:34 Introvert wrote:
Only reason the dumb pledge was necessary was because of Trump's whining about being "treated fairly." And he was still hedging even after he signed it. Trump deserves no loyalty, and I assume most of the other 60% of GOP primary voters would agree. Paul Ryan isn't obliged to go along with every asinine comment Trump makes. Especially considering that his own district went against Trump like 2:1.

I have my own issues with Ryan, but his comments were 100% correct and appropriate. If Trump says he doesn't want certain people, then they are released to go elsewhere.

Majorities of republican voters are supporting Trump and his message. If the GOP isn't going to support Trump, then they will be flaunting the will of their voters. I don't think that such action will end well for the GOP.


He didn't have a majority in a single state until New York, if memory serves. He has like 40% of the popular vote. He's deeply polarizing, and chances are, quite toxic. So imo they are smart to stay away. Remember he only got close because of the various front-runner biased state rules.

He hasn't a majority of the vote in the early states because he has been running against a large field. Once the field shrank down to four candidate, he was reliably scoring majorities in the states that he ran. So yes, I think that it is fair to say that a majority of republicans are supporting him now. They may not find him to be their perfect candidate (myself included), but they are going to back him as the best option nonetheless.

You are going to vote for this lunatic?

Wow. Just wow.

Better him than Hillary, who is demonstrably incompetent.

Considering that Trump just said the nation can never default on the debt because the government prints the money, I find this reasoning to be questionable. Even as a know nothing high school freshmen, I knew that printing more money to pay a debt sounded too easy.


xDaunt is firmly in the "Trump is just pretending to be a total moron to appease the masses" camp out of desperation to believe he won't be voting for a total moron when he casts his vote for an (R) candidate. No amount of totally moronic things the man says will make him change his mind.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 09 2016 18:07 GMT
#75465
hillary is extremely competent. trump is a buffoon
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7928 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 18:13:25
May 09 2016 18:10 GMT
#75466
On May 10 2016 02:41 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 02:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 09 2016 11:03 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:51 Introvert wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:38 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:34 Introvert wrote:
Only reason the dumb pledge was necessary was because of Trump's whining about being "treated fairly." And he was still hedging even after he signed it. Trump deserves no loyalty, and I assume most of the other 60% of GOP primary voters would agree. Paul Ryan isn't obliged to go along with every asinine comment Trump makes. Especially considering that his own district went against Trump like 2:1.

I have my own issues with Ryan, but his comments were 100% correct and appropriate. If Trump says he doesn't want certain people, then they are released to go elsewhere.

Majorities of republican voters are supporting Trump and his message. If the GOP isn't going to support Trump, then they will be flaunting the will of their voters. I don't think that such action will end well for the GOP.


He didn't have a majority in a single state until New York, if memory serves. He has like 40% of the popular vote. He's deeply polarizing, and chances are, quite toxic. So imo they are smart to stay away. Remember he only got close because of the various front-runner biased state rules.

He hasn't a majority of the vote in the early states because he has been running against a large field. Once the field shrank down to four candidate, he was reliably scoring majorities in the states that he ran. So yes, I think that it is fair to say that a majority of republicans are supporting him now. They may not find him to be their perfect candidate (myself included), but they are going to back him as the best option nonetheless.

You are going to vote for this lunatic?

Wow. Just wow.

Better him than Hillary, who is demonstrably incompetent.

Oh man... I don't even know what to say.

Well, someone (not Churchill) said that the best argument against democracy is a five minutes conversation with the average voter; I guess you are a pretty good illustration. That you can think that someone who didn't bother to utter anything true, that made one burlesque proposal after another, that fuels hatred and bigotry and whose main attributes are to be a vulgar, boastful, and a complete bully is a better choice than one of America's most experienced politician, I am pretty fucking sad for you.

The saddest thing is that you seem like a reasonably well informed person. And that's depressing; to see resentful and completely ignorant people voting for him is bad enough; but that someone able to have more or less a rational discussion is backing up this clown is just beyond me.

Anyway. Germans voted for Hitler, Italians Mussolini, French people are voting for Le Pen and English for Farage. If people decide to go full stupid, there is little to do. I guess that's the price to pay for democracy.

Seriously, voting is a responsibility. Get back to planet earth.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 18:20:10
May 09 2016 18:13 GMT
#75467
On May 10 2016 02:41 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 02:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 09 2016 11:03 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:51 Introvert wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:38 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:34 Introvert wrote:
Only reason the dumb pledge was necessary was because of Trump's whining about being "treated fairly." And he was still hedging even after he signed it. Trump deserves no loyalty, and I assume most of the other 60% of GOP primary voters would agree. Paul Ryan isn't obliged to go along with every asinine comment Trump makes. Especially considering that his own district went against Trump like 2:1.

I have my own issues with Ryan, but his comments were 100% correct and appropriate. If Trump says he doesn't want certain people, then they are released to go elsewhere.

Majorities of republican voters are supporting Trump and his message. If the GOP isn't going to support Trump, then they will be flaunting the will of their voters. I don't think that such action will end well for the GOP.


He didn't have a majority in a single state until New York, if memory serves. He has like 40% of the popular vote. He's deeply polarizing, and chances are, quite toxic. So imo they are smart to stay away. Remember he only got close because of the various front-runner biased state rules.

He hasn't a majority of the vote in the early states because he has been running against a large field. Once the field shrank down to four candidate, he was reliably scoring majorities in the states that he ran. So yes, I think that it is fair to say that a majority of republicans are supporting him now. They may not find him to be their perfect candidate (myself included), but they are going to back him as the best option nonetheless.

You are going to vote for this lunatic?

Wow. Just wow.

Better him than Hillary, who is demonstrably incompetent.


i mean a 5 year old isnt demonstrably incompetent

but better no record than a mixed one, is that what youre saying?
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23515 Posts
May 09 2016 18:18 GMT
#75468
Facebook workers routinely suppressed news stories of interest to conservative readers from the social network’s influential “trending” news section, according to a former journalist who worked on the project. This individual says that workers prevented stories about the right-wing CPAC gathering, Mitt Romney, Rand Paul, and other conservative topics from appearing in the highly-influential section, even though they were organically trending among the site’s users.
Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News

Several former Facebook “news curators,” as they were known internally, also told Gizmodo that they were instructed to artificially “inject” selected stories into the trending news module, even if they weren’t popular enough to warrant inclusion—or in some cases weren’t trending at all. The former curators, all of whom worked as contractors, also said they were directed not to include news about Facebook itself in the trending module.

In other words, Facebook’s news section operates like a traditional newsroom, reflecting the biases of its workers and the institutional imperatives of the corporation. Imposing human editorial values onto the lists of topics an algorithm spits out is by no means a bad thing—but it is in stark contrast to the company’s claims that the trending module simply lists “topics that have recently become popular on Facebook.”


Link
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 18:21:35
May 09 2016 18:19 GMT
#75469
On May 10 2016 03:06 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 02:44 Plansix wrote:
On May 10 2016 02:41 xDaunt wrote:
On May 10 2016 02:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 09 2016 11:03 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:51 Introvert wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:38 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:34 Introvert wrote:
Only reason the dumb pledge was necessary was because of Trump's whining about being "treated fairly." And he was still hedging even after he signed it. Trump deserves no loyalty, and I assume most of the other 60% of GOP primary voters would agree. Paul Ryan isn't obliged to go along with every asinine comment Trump makes. Especially considering that his own district went against Trump like 2:1.

I have my own issues with Ryan, but his comments were 100% correct and appropriate. If Trump says he doesn't want certain people, then they are released to go elsewhere.

Majorities of republican voters are supporting Trump and his message. If the GOP isn't going to support Trump, then they will be flaunting the will of their voters. I don't think that such action will end well for the GOP.


He didn't have a majority in a single state until New York, if memory serves. He has like 40% of the popular vote. He's deeply polarizing, and chances are, quite toxic. So imo they are smart to stay away. Remember he only got close because of the various front-runner biased state rules.

He hasn't a majority of the vote in the early states because he has been running against a large field. Once the field shrank down to four candidate, he was reliably scoring majorities in the states that he ran. So yes, I think that it is fair to say that a majority of republicans are supporting him now. They may not find him to be their perfect candidate (myself included), but they are going to back him as the best option nonetheless.

You are going to vote for this lunatic?

Wow. Just wow.

Better him than Hillary, who is demonstrably incompetent.

Considering that Trump just said the nation can never default on the debt because the government prints the money, I find this reasoning to be questionable. Even as a know nothing high school freshmen, I knew that printing more money to pay a debt sounded too easy.


xDaunt is firmly in the "Trump is just pretending to be a total moron to appease the masses" camp out of desperation to believe he won't be voting for a total moron when he casts his vote for an (R) candidate. No amount of totally moronic things the man says will make him change his mind.

The fact that the Trump camp doesn't even respond to fact checking inquiries is telling.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/few-stand-in-trumps-way-as-he-piles-up-the-four-pinocchio-whoppers/2016/05/07/8cf5e16a-12ff-11e6-8967-7ac733c56f12_story.html

There was a day in politics were backing up your claims mattered and you couldn't make shit up out of thin air. Sure they added the standard political spin, but there was something behind it.

Edit: Facebook is an arm of the liberal agenda! LoL!
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 09 2016 18:21 GMT
#75470
On May 10 2016 03:19 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 03:06 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On May 10 2016 02:44 Plansix wrote:
On May 10 2016 02:41 xDaunt wrote:
On May 10 2016 02:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 09 2016 11:03 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:51 Introvert wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:38 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:34 Introvert wrote:
Only reason the dumb pledge was necessary was because of Trump's whining about being "treated fairly." And he was still hedging even after he signed it. Trump deserves no loyalty, and I assume most of the other 60% of GOP primary voters would agree. Paul Ryan isn't obliged to go along with every asinine comment Trump makes. Especially considering that his own district went against Trump like 2:1.

I have my own issues with Ryan, but his comments were 100% correct and appropriate. If Trump says he doesn't want certain people, then they are released to go elsewhere.

Majorities of republican voters are supporting Trump and his message. If the GOP isn't going to support Trump, then they will be flaunting the will of their voters. I don't think that such action will end well for the GOP.


He didn't have a majority in a single state until New York, if memory serves. He has like 40% of the popular vote. He's deeply polarizing, and chances are, quite toxic. So imo they are smart to stay away. Remember he only got close because of the various front-runner biased state rules.

He hasn't a majority of the vote in the early states because he has been running against a large field. Once the field shrank down to four candidate, he was reliably scoring majorities in the states that he ran. So yes, I think that it is fair to say that a majority of republicans are supporting him now. They may not find him to be their perfect candidate (myself included), but they are going to back him as the best option nonetheless.

You are going to vote for this lunatic?

Wow. Just wow.

Better him than Hillary, who is demonstrably incompetent.

Considering that Trump just said the nation can never default on the debt because the government prints the money, I find this reasoning to be questionable. Even as a know nothing high school freshmen, I knew that printing more money to pay a debt sounded too easy.


xDaunt is firmly in the "Trump is just pretending to be a total moron to appease the masses" camp out of desperation to believe he won't be voting for a total moron when he casts his vote for an (R) candidate. No amount of totally moronic things the man says will make him change his mind.

The fact that the Trump camp doesn't even respond to fact checking inquiries is telling.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/few-stand-in-trumps-way-as-he-piles-up-the-four-pinocchio-whoppers/2016/05/07/8cf5e16a-12ff-11e6-8967-7ac733c56f12_story.html

There was a day in politics were backing up your claims mattered and you couldn't make shit up out of thin air. Sure they added the standard political spin, but there was something behind it.


wait till hillary busts out the #whichtrump
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7928 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 18:24:50
May 09 2016 18:24 GMT
#75471
On May 10 2016 03:19 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 03:06 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On May 10 2016 02:44 Plansix wrote:
On May 10 2016 02:41 xDaunt wrote:
On May 10 2016 02:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 09 2016 11:03 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:51 Introvert wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:38 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:34 Introvert wrote:
Only reason the dumb pledge was necessary was because of Trump's whining about being "treated fairly." And he was still hedging even after he signed it. Trump deserves no loyalty, and I assume most of the other 60% of GOP primary voters would agree. Paul Ryan isn't obliged to go along with every asinine comment Trump makes. Especially considering that his own district went against Trump like 2:1.

I have my own issues with Ryan, but his comments were 100% correct and appropriate. If Trump says he doesn't want certain people, then they are released to go elsewhere.

Majorities of republican voters are supporting Trump and his message. If the GOP isn't going to support Trump, then they will be flaunting the will of their voters. I don't think that such action will end well for the GOP.


He didn't have a majority in a single state until New York, if memory serves. He has like 40% of the popular vote. He's deeply polarizing, and chances are, quite toxic. So imo they are smart to stay away. Remember he only got close because of the various front-runner biased state rules.

He hasn't a majority of the vote in the early states because he has been running against a large field. Once the field shrank down to four candidate, he was reliably scoring majorities in the states that he ran. So yes, I think that it is fair to say that a majority of republicans are supporting him now. They may not find him to be their perfect candidate (myself included), but they are going to back him as the best option nonetheless.

You are going to vote for this lunatic?

Wow. Just wow.

Better him than Hillary, who is demonstrably incompetent.

Considering that Trump just said the nation can never default on the debt because the government prints the money, I find this reasoning to be questionable. Even as a know nothing high school freshmen, I knew that printing more money to pay a debt sounded too easy.


xDaunt is firmly in the "Trump is just pretending to be a total moron to appease the masses" camp out of desperation to believe he won't be voting for a total moron when he casts his vote for an (R) candidate. No amount of totally moronic things the man says will make him change his mind.

The fact that the Trump camp doesn't even respond to fact checking inquiries is telling.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/few-stand-in-trumps-way-as-he-piles-up-the-four-pinocchio-whoppers/2016/05/07/8cf5e16a-12ff-11e6-8967-7ac733c56f12_story.html

There was a day in politics were backing up your claims mattered and you couldn't make shit up out of thin air. Sure they added the standard political spin, but there was something behind it.

Edit: Facebook is an arm of the liberal agenda! LoL!

Republicans have stopped to give a shit about facts and truth a long time ago. I mean, it's a party that denies basic science, that relies on vodoo economics and in which most elected officials claim that evolution didn't happen and that climate change is a hoax.

That after 25 years of that regime their primary has become clowntown fuck-the-world shitshow, to quote Oliver, is not surprising.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 09 2016 18:24 GMT
#75472
trump's recent debt words is kind of like running off the road to the left only to oversteer and hit a truck in the opposite direction.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
CannonsNCarriers
Profile Joined April 2010
United States638 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 18:26:20
May 09 2016 18:25 GMT
#75473
On May 10 2016 03:13 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 02:41 xDaunt wrote:
On May 10 2016 02:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 09 2016 11:03 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:51 Introvert wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:38 xDaunt wrote:
On May 09 2016 10:34 Introvert wrote:
Only reason the dumb pledge was necessary was because of Trump's whining about being "treated fairly." And he was still hedging even after he signed it. Trump deserves no loyalty, and I assume most of the other 60% of GOP primary voters would agree. Paul Ryan isn't obliged to go along with every asinine comment Trump makes. Especially considering that his own district went against Trump like 2:1.

I have my own issues with Ryan, but his comments were 100% correct and appropriate. If Trump says he doesn't want certain people, then they are released to go elsewhere.

Majorities of republican voters are supporting Trump and his message. If the GOP isn't going to support Trump, then they will be flaunting the will of their voters. I don't think that such action will end well for the GOP.


He didn't have a majority in a single state until New York, if memory serves. He has like 40% of the popular vote. He's deeply polarizing, and chances are, quite toxic. So imo they are smart to stay away. Remember he only got close because of the various front-runner biased state rules.

He hasn't a majority of the vote in the early states because he has been running against a large field. Once the field shrank down to four candidate, he was reliably scoring majorities in the states that he ran. So yes, I think that it is fair to say that a majority of republicans are supporting him now. They may not find him to be their perfect candidate (myself included), but they are going to back him as the best option nonetheless.

You are going to vote for this lunatic?

Wow. Just wow.

Better him than Hillary, who is demonstrably incompetent.


i mean a 5 year old isnt demonstrably incompetent

but better no record than a mixed one, is that what youre saying?


Trump has a long and relevant record. Trump's recent comments about running up large debts and letting the creditors take the risk if the economy fails was a deeply revealing line. Trump's business career is littered with overbuilt casinos pumped up with huge leverage. Trump regularly stiffed his creditors when the bills came due on his ridiculous buildings (his 4 business bankruptcies). Trump in recent days has suggested he would run the United States Federal Government in the same manner as his casinos; with huge run ups of debts following by defaults through either haircuts or printing money.

Note that this is consistent with his policy prescriptions. Trump says he will: build the ultimate wall, cut no entitlements, expand the military, devastate the lower end of the labor force with mass deportations, and institute the largest tax cut ever (if his website is to be believed). All of that will run up the federal debt just like his Atlantic City casino deals did.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 09 2016 18:43 GMT
#75474


Ted Cruz may have lost his bid to be the Republican Party's presidential nominee, but he is fighting to ensure his conservative principles are still represented at the the Republican convention in Cleveland, the New York Times reported Monday.

According to the Times report, Cruz is already trying to wield influence over the party's platform, a mostly symbolic document in years past, that could become the clearest depiction of the party's policy civil war at the convention in July. The Times reported Monday that Cruz surrogate Ken Cuccinelli emailed Cruz backers and delegates Sunday with a message that even if the GOP nominating contest was over, it was “still possible to advance a conservative agenda at the convention.”

Many conservatives within in the Republican Party including House Speaker Paul Ryan have voiced concerns about Trump's conservative bonafides, but Cruz's wading into the intricacies of the platform process is the most concrete example yet of how Trump's party may try to police their nominee's influence on the its core beliefs. As the Times points out, the Cruz campaign spent heavily on ensuring it won sympathetic delegates around the country, an investment that may not help him get the nomination, but could pay off when the platform committee meets.


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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 09 2016 18:50 GMT
#75475
cruz and bernie, most partisan senate record.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/who-are-the-most-partisan-senators-220365

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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 19:08:02
May 09 2016 19:06 GMT
#75476
On May 10 2016 03:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
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Facebook workers routinely suppressed news stories of interest to conservative readers from the social network’s influential “trending” news section, according to a former journalist who worked on the project. This individual says that workers prevented stories about the right-wing CPAC gathering, Mitt Romney, Rand Paul, and other conservative topics from appearing in the highly-influential section, even though they were organically trending among the site’s users.
Former Facebook Workers: We Routinely Suppressed Conservative News

Several former Facebook “news curators,” as they were known internally, also told Gizmodo that they were instructed to artificially “inject” selected stories into the trending news module, even if they weren’t popular enough to warrant inclusion—or in some cases weren’t trending at all. The former curators, all of whom worked as contractors, also said they were directed not to include news about Facebook itself in the trending module.

In other words, Facebook’s news section operates like a traditional newsroom, reflecting the biases of its workers and the institutional imperatives of the corporation. Imposing human editorial values onto the lists of topics an algorithm spits out is by no means a bad thing—but it is in stark contrast to the company’s claims that the trending module simply lists “topics that have recently become popular on Facebook.”


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This is such old news. It's been so obvious that everything is filtered per interests and political affiliation. People want to see what they already believe.

On May 10 2016 03:50 oneofthem wrote:
cruz and bernie, most partisan senate record.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/who-are-the-most-partisan-senators-220365



Bernistas celebrate this. Being divisive and "finally taking a stand" is what it's all about.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 09 2016 19:29 GMT
#75477
The governor of North Carolina has sued the U.S. government and the Justice Department, asking federal courts to declare that a controversial new state law doesn't violate U.S. law on transgender access to bathrooms.

The legal filing comes ahead of an end-of-Monday deadline for North Carolina to respond to the Department of Justice over the law barring protections for LGBT people in the state.

"The Obama administration is bypassing Congress by attempting to rewrite the law and set restroom policies for public and private employers across the country, not just North Carolina. This is now a national issue that applies to every state and it needs to be resolved at the federal level," North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory said in a statement about the filing. He said the lawsuit was an attempt to "clarify" national law.

In a statement Monday afternoon, McCrory also called for the national legislature to chime in.

"I think it's time for the U.S. Congress to bring clarity to our national anti-discrimination provisions," he said, repeating it twice for emphasis.

The state law in question, known as HB2, requires transgender people at state facilities, including schools, to use the restroom that corresponds to the sex on their birth certificate — not their identified gender. (The law also blocks local jurisdictions from passing their own anti-discrimination ordinances, among other things.)

The DOJ, which says the law violates the Civil Rights Act and Title IX, had set a Monday afternoon deadline for the state to reply and say whether it intended to enact the law.


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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11686 Posts
May 09 2016 19:38 GMT
#75478
Why do people fight so hard just to be able to be assholes?

Can't you just be nice to people, especially if what they want does not hurt you or anyone else in any way whatsoever?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23515 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 19:39:47
May 09 2016 19:39 GMT
#75479
On May 10 2016 03:50 oneofthem wrote:
cruz and bernie, most partisan senate record.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/who-are-the-most-partisan-senators-220365




I think that Gillibrand scoring "worse" than Bernie on the "lifetime" list, but 67th in 2015, while basically being a Clinton surrogate in the senate, shows that as the meaningless metric it is.

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Kirsten E. Gillibrand next year, the new senator is acquiring a major advantage: much of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s extensive New York network of campaign operatives, donors and advisers.

Since Ms. Gillibrand was appointed in January, top Clinton aides have signed on to her campaign or Senate staff. Others with ties to Mrs. Clinton have worked to help smooth over rifts with groups that are skeptical of Ms. Gillibrand’s relatively conservative voting record. Some of Mrs. Clinton’s top presidential fund-raisers have joined Ms. Gillibrand’s finance team to help her raise the $70 million or more she will need for the 2010 and 2012 elections.

And while Mrs. Clinton seems likely to shy away from electoral politics now that she is secretary of state, there is little doubt about where the Clintons’ loyalty lies: On Wednesday, Bill Clinton himself will headline an Upper East Side fund-raiser for Ms. Gillibrand.

“Kirsten has inspired the band to get back together,” said Karen Finney, who was a deputy press secretary for Mrs. Clinton in the White House and is now advising Ms. Gillibrand. “It’s nice to be working for another great woman from New York.”


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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 09 2016 19:42 GMT
#75480
I like how he claims that Obama is attempting to write a set of bathroom laws when literally no one was thinking about that until his stupid state decided it was a pressing issue. Mind you, now we have people harassing women who are not “feminine enough” and demanding their IDs to prove they are women.

It should also be noted that nationally there were more cases of congressmen behaving poorly in bathrooms than transgender people.
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