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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-women-idUSKCN0WJ155 If he thinks getting the nomination is rough now, the general election isn't going to be some cake walk. The public isn't going to suddenly forget the last year and he can't win the general on his base alone. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
“I THINK you’d have riots.” So said Donald J. Trump last week, when he was asked by CNN what he thought would happen if he arrived at the Republican Convention this summer a few delegates short of the 1,237 needed to win outright and didn’t set forth from Cleveland as the party’s nominee. It is stunning to contemplate, particularly for those of us who are lifelong Republicans, but we now live in a time when the organizing principle that runs through the campaign of the Republican Party’s likely nominee isn’t adherence to a political philosophy — Mr. Trump has no discernible political philosophy — but an encouragement to political violence. Mr. Trump’s supporters will dismiss this as hyperbole, but it is the only reasonable conclusion that his vivid, undisguised words allow for. As the examples pile up, we should not become inured to them. “I’d like to punch him in the face,” Mr. Trump said about a protester in Nevada. (“In the old days,” Mr. Trump fondly recalled, protesters would be “carried out in a stretcher.”) Of another protester, Mr. Trump said, “Maybe he should have been roughed up.” In St. Louis, Mr. Trump sounded almost wistful: “Nobody wants to hurt each other anymore.” About protesters in general, he said: “There used to be consequences. There are none anymore. These people are so bad for our country. You have no idea folks, you have no idea.” Talk like this eventually finds its way into action. And so on March 10, a Trump supporter named John McGraw, was charged with assault, battery and disorderly conduct, after a protester was sucker-punched as he was being hauled by security guards out of a Trump rally in North Carolina the day before. When interviewed afterward Mr. McGraw said, “The next time we see him, we might have to kill him.” And Donald Trump’s reaction? He said he was considering paying Mr. McGraw’s legal fees. “He obviously loves his country,” Mr. Trump added, “and maybe he doesn’t like seeing what’s happening to the country.” Welcome to Donald Trump’s America. Mr. Trump’s comments, startling in a leading presidential candidate, have raised widespread concern about the path we find ourselves on. But concern about political violence, mob rule and unchecked passion is hardly new in American history. Source | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On March 22 2016 02:10 OtherWorld wrote: First of all, not everyone votes, and I really wouldn't be surprised that minorities and women vote less than the rest of the population ; second of all, why shouldn't women vote for Trump? (unless I missed something terrible he said about them?) And yeah Nebuchad is right, Trump being Trump, he'll have no problem appearing as a less extreme candidate while still retaining the support of his earliest supporters because he'll be the "anti-establishment" candidate. TherEs a recent commercial of women reading Trump quotes that is pretty telling. And no the quotes don't get better when you hear the sentences uttered before and after them. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Glad to see there are a few Republicans some backbone that are not dancing around the issue of political violence. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
DENVER — Marijuana is rapidly becoming a big, semi-legal business across the country, with $5.7 billion in sales last year and tens of thousands of people working and paying taxes as they cultivate, package and sell cannabis. Colorado, Alaska, Oregon, Washington state and Washington, D.C. have all legalized adult recreational use, and 23 states and the District of Columbia permit some form of medical use. That’s despite the fact that marijuana remains an illegal drug and Schedule 1 controlled substance at the federal level. Across the country, thousands of people are rushing into the industry, struggling to work within a conflicting patchwork of state laws and local regulations, all the while operating largely without accounts at banks, which are fearful of running afoul of federal drug-trafficking laws. The industry is only expected to grow in 2016, particularly if California voters this fall decide to legalize recreational use, according to the newly released 4th Edition State of Legal Marijuana Markets Report from from ArcView Market Research and New Frontier, a cannabis-focused data-analysis firm. Much of the increase is attributed to adult use market sales, which hit $1.3 billion last year. By 2020, adult use and medical marijuana sales are expected to reach nearly $23 billion, triple this year. Source | ||
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puerk
Germany855 Posts
well founded feelings of dislike of his current persona, demeanor and proposals, that are currently cultivated and reinforced will not go away just because he eats chalk. furthermore: the most important function of the PotUS is to represent the US in the international realm, devise and execute foreign policy including commanding the military. Bush fucked up after gigantic outbursts of solidarity and amicability stemming from 9/11. Even the Iranians and other central Eastern states/state like actors, wanted to help and ally themselfs but got dismissed, branded as evil, and walked over. Long standing vital Nato allies like Germany and France voiced serious concerns about Iraq, but nope, gonna do it on knowingly false pretenses, even though it fucks the whole middle east up beyond recognition for at least a few decades to come. Obama had a great start with a lot of international goodwill to reverse the unwieldy image the latter Bush years projected onto the world. He came across as thoughtful and reserved. His policies were efficient and of subtile impact on the national stage. It seemed that he recognized clusterfucks that the US could not partake in actively/direclty militarily like syria, and focussed on hunting individual terrorists or terrorist organisations instead of antagonizing states and state like actors to an unprecedented degree like Bush. The contrast was so stark that some consider his responses mute, not leading, demonstrating weakness. I consider them pragmatic, unideological, diplomatic and subtle. The question i have to those (on some level) supporting Trump, how is that supposed to work? Can he work with European leaders? Can he work with Iran? Can he actually work with Mexico? Does he understand anything about the Pacific pivot Obama tried, will he carry it on will he totally flunder it due to missunderstandings and "make america great again, no deals!" - trade policy? | ||
Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 22 2016 02:32 Soularion wrote: Clinton vs Trump debates are gonna be the best fuckin' thing ever for people who have no reason to care about the outcome. The best part is going to be the people who claim that Trumps insults and jabs are going to earn him points and pick up votes. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12619 Posts
On March 22 2016 02:32 Soularion wrote: Clinton vs Trump debates are gonna be the best fuckin' thing ever for people who have no reason to care about the outcome. Given climate change I don't know that those people exist :p | ||
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Sent.
Poland9336 Posts
On March 22 2016 02:32 Soularion wrote: Clinton vs Trump debates are gonna be the best fuckin' thing ever for people who have no reason to care about the outcome. Depends on Hillary's strategy. Republican debates were fun because Rubio, Cruz and Bush kept fighting with Trump but if she's just gonna focus on herself it might not be as entertaining. | ||
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Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
On March 22 2016 02:52 Sent. wrote: Depends on Hillary's strategy. Republican debates were fun because Rubio, Cruz and Bush kept fighting with Trump but if she's just gonna focus on herself it might not be as entertaining. Trump talking to a wall is still entertaining! | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46686 Posts
Bernie Sanders wins Democrats Abroad primary ~ http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/21/politics/bernie-sanders-wins-democrats-abroad/index.html (CNN)Bernie Sanders has won the Democrats Abroad presidential primary, defeating former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton 69% to 31%, the organization announced Monday. Sanders received 23,779 votes from American Democrats living in more than 170 countries. Clinton received 10,689 votes. He picked up an additional nine delegates, compared to four for Clinton. The contest marks the Vermont senator's 10th win so far this campaign season and his first victory since winning the Michigan primary on March 8. Clinton, who swept the primaries in Florida, Illinois, Missouri, North Carolina, and Ohio last week, has won 19 contests overall. The nearly 35,000 votes cast in the global primary exceeds the 23,000 votes cast in the 2008 primary, when Barack Obama defeated Clinton 66% to 33%. Voting was held from March 1 through March 8. Democrats Abroad is the international arm of the Democratic National Committee and gives Democrats living overseas the opportunity to participate in the presidential nomination process. The group was officially created during the 1964 presidential election by Americans living in London and Paris. In 1976, the organization held its first global primary and sent its first voting delegation to the Democratic National Convention. A cool yet completely irrelevant poll. Twice as many voters for Bernie as Hillary internationally. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
I think she's done with trying to agree with Bernie and is now trying to pick up anti-Trump center-right voters. | ||
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frazzle
United States468 Posts
Here, for posterity's sake is Meatloaf | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On March 22 2016 02:54 Souma wrote: Trump talking to a wall is still entertaining! Especially if that wall is one he is planning to build between the US and Mexico. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On March 22 2016 00:20 Ghanburighan wrote: If you want a spectacular do-or-die moment, it will be April 19th, New York. He would need the greatest polling error in history and then some to stay viable. If he doesn't outperform 57.5 there, the margins become unreasonable as that's about a sixth of the delegates he needs to catch up on. Correct me if my math is wrong, but I think a tie there effectively sens his margins above 2/3. he will get rekt so hard morons would be trying to REGISTER VOTERS only to find out new york is closed already hahaha. hillary should really try to make supporting cuny an issue in new york. the state is apparently trying to kill it | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On March 22 2016 03:08 jalstar wrote: Hillary's AIPAC speech about Israel: http://time.com/4265947/hillary-clinton-aipac-speech-transcript/ I think she's done with trying to agree with Bernie and is now trying to pick up anti-Trump center-right voters. I wonder who AIPAC prefers out of Trump, Cruz, and Clinton. The only candidate in the running they wouldn't want is Sanders probably-heck, he and Rand Paul are pretty much the only ones I can think of AIPAC wouldn't love having elected this cycle. | ||
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farvacola
United States18876 Posts
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