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On March 05 2016 06:27 strongwind wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 06:14 wei2coolman wrote:On March 05 2016 06:05 strongwind wrote:
I do kinda find it amazing how Bernie wasn't able to get anywhere near the Obama turnout among young voters, even with the packed rallies. Not sure where the disconnect is. You mean old white guy doesn't appeal to crazy SJW college types, compared to a younger black candidate? Hmm... I wonder why... Wait, why wouldn't SJW college types support a SJW candidate? Or do you really think it's because he's old and white? I would think young voters would be the one demographic that wouldn't care much about those designations. Even the socialist label doesn't turn many of them off. Also the fact that he's got this far has largely been due to young voter participation (check Reddit for example). It just hasn't translated to the polls for some reason.
You assume that SJW is clearly demographic with specific traits and some pejorative internet kids throw around when they see something they don’t agree with. It’s the internet version of “libtard”.
On March 05 2016 06:30 Souma wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 06:28 wei2coolman wrote:On March 05 2016 06:27 strongwind wrote:On March 05 2016 06:14 wei2coolman wrote:On March 05 2016 06:05 strongwind wrote:
I do kinda find it amazing how Bernie wasn't able to get anywhere near the Obama turnout among young voters, even with the packed rallies. Not sure where the disconnect is. You mean old white guy doesn't appeal to crazy SJW college types, compared to a younger black candidate? Hmm... I wonder why... Wait, why wouldn't SJW college types support a SJW candidate? Or do you really think it's because he's old and white? I would think young voters would be the one demographic that wouldn't care much about those designations. Even the socialist label doesn't turn many of them off. Also the fact that he's got this far has largely been due to young voter participation (check Reddit for example). It just hasn't translated to the polls for some reason. Clearly you don't understand identity politics. Identity > policies. Sadly I do have SJW/uber-PC friends who don't want to vote in Bernie because he's an old white male.
These kids are super stupid and need to work on using more words to explain their feelings.
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On March 05 2016 06:29 ErectedZenith wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 06:27 strongwind wrote:On March 05 2016 06:14 wei2coolman wrote:On March 05 2016 06:05 strongwind wrote:
I do kinda find it amazing how Bernie wasn't able to get anywhere near the Obama turnout among young voters, even with the packed rallies. Not sure where the disconnect is. You mean old white guy doesn't appeal to crazy SJW college types, compared to a younger black candidate? Hmm... I wonder why... Wait, why wouldn't SJW college types support a SJW candidate? Or do you really think it's because he's old and white? I would think young voters would be the one demographic that wouldn't care much about those designations. Even the socialist label doesn't turn many of them off. Also the fact that he's got this far has largely been due to young voter participation (check Reddit for example). It just hasn't translated to the polls for some reason. Yes SJWs are racist.
Wow, that's a nice unsupported narrative you've got going there. Tell me more.
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On March 05 2016 06:28 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 06:27 strongwind wrote:On March 05 2016 06:14 wei2coolman wrote:On March 05 2016 06:05 strongwind wrote:
I do kinda find it amazing how Bernie wasn't able to get anywhere near the Obama turnout among young voters, even with the packed rallies. Not sure where the disconnect is. You mean old white guy doesn't appeal to crazy SJW college types, compared to a younger black candidate? Hmm... I wonder why... Wait, why wouldn't SJW college types support a SJW candidate? Or do you really think it's because he's old and white? I would think young voters would be the one demographic that wouldn't care much about those designations. Even the socialist label doesn't turn many of them off. Also the fact that he's got this far has largely been due to young voter participation (check Reddit for example). It just hasn't translated to the polls for some reason. Clearly you don't understand identity politics. Identity > policies.
Your ad hominem aside, I do agree that Obama carried a level of charisma that Bernie kinda has but doesn't match. I still question what exactly the youth identify with; maybe less age and race and more with the idea of "cool", which is a much harder factor to quantify.
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SJW is another case of anti-discrimination gone bonkers. Like with racism there are real problems but when you have women bitching about the patriarchy when a guy grabs the door for them (an extreme example but one that happens) then people get tired of hearing about inequality and stuff.
I think one of the contrasts is Obama's populist message was hopeful. Bernie's isn't really-- it's more angry than anything.
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On March 05 2016 06:37 frazzle wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 06:29 ErectedZenith wrote:On March 05 2016 06:27 strongwind wrote:On March 05 2016 06:14 wei2coolman wrote:On March 05 2016 06:05 strongwind wrote:
I do kinda find it amazing how Bernie wasn't able to get anywhere near the Obama turnout among young voters, even with the packed rallies. Not sure where the disconnect is. You mean old white guy doesn't appeal to crazy SJW college types, compared to a younger black candidate? Hmm... I wonder why... Wait, why wouldn't SJW college types support a SJW candidate? Or do you really think it's because he's old and white? I would think young voters would be the one demographic that wouldn't care much about those designations. Even the socialist label doesn't turn many of them off. Also the fact that he's got this far has largely been due to young voter participation (check Reddit for example). It just hasn't translated to the polls for some reason. Yes SJWs are racist. Wow, that's a nice unsupported narrative you've got going there. Tell me more.
Don't you believe Republicans are racist?
On March 05 2016 06:50 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 06:48 oBlade wrote:On March 05 2016 06:37 frazzle wrote:On March 05 2016 06:29 ErectedZenith wrote:On March 05 2016 06:27 strongwind wrote:On March 05 2016 06:14 wei2coolman wrote:On March 05 2016 06:05 strongwind wrote:
I do kinda find it amazing how Bernie wasn't able to get anywhere near the Obama turnout among young voters, even with the packed rallies. Not sure where the disconnect is. You mean old white guy doesn't appeal to crazy SJW college types, compared to a younger black candidate? Hmm... I wonder why... Wait, why wouldn't SJW college types support a SJW candidate? Or do you really think it's because he's old and white? I would think young voters would be the one demographic that wouldn't care much about those designations. Even the socialist label doesn't turn many of them off. Also the fact that he's got this far has largely been due to young voter participation (check Reddit for example). It just hasn't translated to the polls for some reason. Yes SJWs are racist. Wow, that's a nice unsupported narrative you've got going there. Tell me more. Don't you believe Republicans are racist? I think the only person who believes that is you, since you ask its so much.
On March 04 2016 05:00 frazzle wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2016 04:26 Seuss wrote:On March 04 2016 04:12 oBlade wrote:On March 04 2016 03:53 Seuss wrote:On March 04 2016 03:05 xDaunt wrote:
Here's the problem for the Republican Establishment. Trump supporters, and the Republican base at large, already were thinking that the Republican Establishment had betrayed them and were corrupt and actively working against their interests. Now the Republican Establishment (and big money from Wall Street) is going out of its way to politically assassinate their guy. All that is going to do is reinforce their beliefs and convince more people to support Trump. Trump doesn't fit my political leanings particularly well, but I'll be damned if I'm not completely disgusted by what Trump has exposed from the Republican leadership. Here's a good perspective on Romney's tut tutting of Trump: https://goplifer.com/2016/03/02/why-republican-criticism-of-trump-fails/Romney’s attack on Trump is impotent because it is not about racism. It’s about manners. For well-mannered Americans from good backgrounds, racism is like Fight Club. Speaking openly about bigotry is a social faux pas. Outrage over Trump’s Klan gaffe is nothing more than tone-policing.
Remember, Mitt Romney is the same guy who whitesplained the opposition he got from the NAACP in 2012 by implying that they just want “free stuff.” Romney is the 47% guy. This year’s establishment moderate, Jeb Bush, repeated the same ‘free stuff’ line in South Carolina last fall. None of the GOP field drew any principled distinction from Trump on his refugee policy, his stupid border wall, or his foreign policy militancy. Sophisticated people cloak their racism in a well-turned phrase. Romney isn’t criticizing Trump for racism. He’s just ridiculing him for using the wrong fork. Good luck with that. That's a perspective; I wouldn't say it's a good one (a superficial clue is someone seriously used the word "whitesplain"). It's more like decrying "racism" is a tactic the establishment can try and use to discredit an outsider they're scared of. I mostly liked the point that calling out Trump on tone is dumb since a lot of his "controversial" statements come straight from past GOP platforms, Trump's just more blunt about it. But yeah "good" wasn't the correct word, and there's definitely an undercurrent of "conservatives are all racists" in the article that xDaunt is justified in calling out. Call it racism, or call it entitlement resentment, dogwhistle politics revolving around the premise that many if not most blacks are part of a moocher mentality, that they are 'bought' by the Democratic party through promises of welfare state giveaways, is a staple of Republican politics. This often extends to a criticism of black culture and a belief that Democrat policies serve to enable supposed counter-productive gangsta elements, whether it's an epidemic of black men not raising their children to a refusal of African-Americans to adopt societal norms in order to secure employment (i.e. pull up their pants), obsession with these topics is a central part of the Republican message .
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On March 05 2016 06:48 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 06:37 frazzle wrote:On March 05 2016 06:29 ErectedZenith wrote:On March 05 2016 06:27 strongwind wrote:On March 05 2016 06:14 wei2coolman wrote:On March 05 2016 06:05 strongwind wrote:
I do kinda find it amazing how Bernie wasn't able to get anywhere near the Obama turnout among young voters, even with the packed rallies. Not sure where the disconnect is. You mean old white guy doesn't appeal to crazy SJW college types, compared to a younger black candidate? Hmm... I wonder why... Wait, why wouldn't SJW college types support a SJW candidate? Or do you really think it's because he's old and white? I would think young voters would be the one demographic that wouldn't care much about those designations. Even the socialist label doesn't turn many of them off. Also the fact that he's got this far has largely been due to young voter participation (check Reddit for example). It just hasn't translated to the polls for some reason. Yes SJWs are racist. Wow, that's a nice unsupported narrative you've got going there. Tell me more. Don't you believe Republicans are racist?
I think the only person who believes that is you, since you ask its so much.
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Many Americans tell pollsters and politicians that they're angry. Why?
At least part of the answer might be tucked inside the February jobs report, released Friday by the Labor Department. Consider this:
On the one hand, the report was brimming with good economic news. It showed employers added 242,000 workers last month, exceeding most forecasts. It also showed upward revisions for job growth in January and December.
The unemployment rate held steady at 4.9 percent and the labor force participation rate rose by 0.2 percentage point to 62.9 percent, marking the fourth increase in the last five months. U.S. companies have now added 14.3 million jobs over six straight years, a record hiring streak.
That all helped push stock prices higher. By midday, the Dow Jones industrial average was back up over 17,000 for the first time since Jan. 6.
Given all of that, what's not to like?
How about shrinking paychecks?
Average hourly earnings fell last month — down 3 cents an hour to $25.35. In addition, the average workweek declined by 0.2 hour to just 34.4 hours in February.
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Speaking as single, professional income level white male in Los Angeles; I meet all kinds of women on the internet and in real life. I have never been oppressed by an SJW. Ever. For all the talk of their threat to our wilting masculinities, I have never even once been oppressed by any of these Cis, White, High income, Male crushing beasts. And this is in Los Angeles. I mean maybe, maybe in the hippiest parts of Berkeley there may be some Cis, White, High income, Male oppression but there needs to be a strong showing of actual evidence (even in the Bay Area, would not start up bros dominate?).
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On March 05 2016 06:59 CannonsNCarriers wrote:
Speaking as single, professional income level white male in Los Angeles; I meet all kinds of women on the internet and in real life. I have never been oppressed by an SJW. Ever. For all the talk of their threat to our wilting masculinities, I have never even once been oppressed by any of these Cis, White, High income, Male crushing beasts. And this is in Los Angeles. I mean maybe, maybe in the hippiest parts of Berkeley there may be some Cis, White, High income, Male oppression but there needs to be a strong showing of actual evidence (even in the Bay Area, would not start up bros dominate?).
My freshman year we had this girl in my hall who would deliberately use the men's restroom to shower and everything because she didn't believe in gender or something. It was really awkward for a lot of us, but eventually student life got her to compromise and use the handicapped single bathroom. Perhaps that's what she wanted all along?
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SJW is a fictional avatar of a hyper aggressive progressive person. They are not real, but a compost of every meme, youtube video any other contextless media on the internet that shows unreasonable progressives talking about social issues. Its like “red neck” or “foot ball jock”. Its just a stereotype that is powered by the tiniest grain of truth.
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On March 05 2016 06:59 CannonsNCarriers wrote:
Speaking as single, professional income level white male in Los Angeles; I meet all kinds of women on the internet and in real life. I have never been oppressed by an SJW. Ever. For all the talk of their threat to our wilting masculinities, I have never even once been oppressed by any of these Cis, White, High income, Male crushing beasts. And this is in Los Angeles. I mean maybe, maybe in the hippiest parts of Berkeley there may be some Cis, White, High income, Male oppression but there needs to be a strong showing of actual evidence (even in the Bay Area, would not start up bros dominate?). Strangely enough, it's pretty much only SJW's that claim they're viewed as a threat towards "wilting masculinities." It's like terming something trickle-down economics: you try to define your opposition to gain an advantage.
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On March 05 2016 06:05 strongwind wrote:
I do kinda find it amazing how Bernie wasn't able to get anywhere near the Obama turnout among young voters, even with the packed rallies. Not sure where the disconnect is.
Obama has charisma, Trump has charisma.
Bernie doesn't
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I doubt many people who complain about SJW's would prefer to not have the privilege.
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Republican leaders fought to restore confidence in their process for picking a presidential nominee on Friday after an establishment backlash against Donald Trump and another insult-strewn television debate left the party facing unprecedented, and possibly existential, challenges to its unity.
“We are in territory that our party hasn’t seen,” conceded Reince Priebus, chairman of the Republican National Committee (RNC), at a meeting of conservative activists gathered outside Washington, when he was asked what would happen if there was no clear winner by the time of this summer’s GOP convention.
Priebus insisted the chances of the race needing to be decided by a so-called “brokered convention” – at which delegates would be freed from voting in line with state primary election results – were just 10-15%, but discussion of an apparent attempt by former nominee Mitt Romney to engineer such a scenario was met with loud boos from the crowd at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC).
Though strongly supportive of Texas senator Ted Cruz and mostly suspicious of Trump, the audience at CPAC appeared even more skeptical of any attempt to rig the nomination process by party leaders in Washington.
“There is no way that the people are not going to decide,” a defensive Priebus told CPAC. “Whoever the nominee is of our party, they are going to get the full backing and 100% support of the Republican party.”
Shortly after Priebus spoke, Trump announced he had pulled out of a planned appearance at CPAC on Saturday, something organizers claimed amounted to a “clear message to conservatives” and suggested the party was in actual fact now torn in three conflicting directions.
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On March 05 2016 07:12 Plansix wrote:
SJW is a fictional avatar of a hyper aggressive progressive person. They are not real, but a compost of every meme, youtube video any other contextless media on the internet that shows unreasonable progressives talking about social issues. Its like “red neck” or “foot ball jock”. Its just a stereotype that is powered by the tiniest grain of truth.
I had a TA for my ethnic studies class claim that she couldn't get a job in the private sector because of institutional racism in the private sector. She was a dance major, and her current PhD thesis was about interpretating dance as a form of changing political tension.
yeah.... i mean....
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On March 05 2016 07:31 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 07:12 Plansix wrote:
SJW is a fictional avatar of a hyper aggressive progressive person. They are not real, but a compost of every meme, youtube video any other contextless media on the internet that shows unreasonable progressives talking about social issues. Its like “red neck” or “foot ball jock”. Its just a stereotype that is powered by the tiniest grain of truth. I had a TA for my ethnic studies class claim that she couldn't get a job in the private sector because of institutional racism in the private sector. She was a dance major, and her current PhD thesis was about interpretating dance as a form of changing political tension. yeah.... i mean....
What college was this and where was she obtaining this mythical PHD?
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On March 05 2016 07:38 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 07:31 wei2coolman wrote:On March 05 2016 07:12 Plansix wrote:
SJW is a fictional avatar of a hyper aggressive progressive person. They are not real, but a compost of every meme, youtube video any other contextless media on the internet that shows unreasonable progressives talking about social issues. Its like “red neck” or “foot ball jock”. Its just a stereotype that is powered by the tiniest grain of truth. I had a TA for my ethnic studies class claim that she couldn't get a job in the private sector because of institutional racism in the private sector. She was a dance major, and her current PhD thesis was about interpretating dance as a form of changing political tension. yeah.... i mean.... What college was this and where was she obtaining this mythical PHD?
It a was an University of California.
tbf she was probably an acolyte of Reza Aslan.
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On March 05 2016 07:31 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 07:12 Plansix wrote:
SJW is a fictional avatar of a hyper aggressive progressive person. They are not real, but a compost of every meme, youtube video any other contextless media on the internet that shows unreasonable progressives talking about social issues. Its like “red neck” or “foot ball jock”. Its just a stereotype that is powered by the tiniest grain of truth. I had a TA for my ethnic studies class claim that she couldn't get a job in the private sector because of institutional racism in the private sector. She was a dance major, and her current PhD thesis was about interpretating dance as a form of changing political tension. yeah.... i mean....
If not sexism, I'm sure she would have blamed the system-at-large for her unemployment.
Our country needs a big change in mindset around higher ed. It's not a 6 figure 4 year vacation to solely exploring your interests,you have to figure out how to apply that in the real world.
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On March 05 2016 07:42 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 07:38 Plansix wrote:On March 05 2016 07:31 wei2coolman wrote:On March 05 2016 07:12 Plansix wrote:
SJW is a fictional avatar of a hyper aggressive progressive person. They are not real, but a compost of every meme, youtube video any other contextless media on the internet that shows unreasonable progressives talking about social issues. Its like “red neck” or “foot ball jock”. Its just a stereotype that is powered by the tiniest grain of truth. I had a TA for my ethnic studies class claim that she couldn't get a job in the private sector because of institutional racism in the private sector. She was a dance major, and her current PhD thesis was about interpretating dance as a form of changing political tension. yeah.... i mean.... What college was this and where was she obtaining this mythical PHD? It a was an University of California. tbf she was probably an acolyte of Reza Aslan.
Reza Aslan is very well respected. I have read several of his pieces and they are well researched.
What type of dance did she specialize in?
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Reza Aslan is an absolute nightmare, giving an intelligent voice to a despicable and self defeating movement of crazy, reactionary liberals.
edit: And yes, before anyone comes back at me, i'm fully with Sam Harris on this, and I will continue to be.
Reza and his cronies want to ban any discussion of islamic extremism have no qualms about playing extremely dirty in their quest to do so.
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