US Politics Mega-thread - Page 3086

On March 02 2016 02:44 xDaunt wrote:
No one knows what a racist is anymore. But whatever. Keep debasing the meaning of the word and see where it gets you.

On March 02 2016 03:54 xDaunt wrote:

I think that only people who aren't paying attention think that this is the case. It is more accurate to state that Trump has a plan, some of which he has revealed (protectionism, immigration reform, isolationism etc), and the rest of which he's purposefully obscuring (health care in particular comes to mind).

On March 02 2016 03:41 Plansix wrote:

So is your argument that racism is no longer an issue in America worthy of national attention?

On March 02 2016 03:41 Plansix wrote:
That we have addressed the problems of systematic repression based on race to the best of our ability?

On March 02 2016 04:03 kwizach wrote:

No, I think that people who are paying attention know very well that Trump has no real plan for healthcare, and that he's improvising as he goes. The same is true for protectionism, immigration reform, and isolationism. His bombastic statements don't qualify as a plan, and he's contradicted in his public interventions the little that he has put forward on his own website.

On March 02 2016 04:04 oBlade wrote:

That sounds good.

You're working in a framework where the problem is a boogeyman that can never be solved, and where 1850, 1950, and 2050 are equivalent because of that.

I'm suggesting these things:
-You being white is not a credential for speaking "for" white people
-Believing that in 2016 you need any kind of national movement or awareness organized under the controversial notion that "racism is bad" serves only to feed the egos of the people involved, who want at some level to show they're engaged in a revolutionary struggle against good and evil the rest of us somehow forgot to RSVP to. There's no special insight gleaned by that attitude.
-There will always be racism, just like there will always be poverty, hunger, disease, and so forth, and insofar as your goal (general "you") is to make the world a better place rather than just prove to your peers what a good person you are, the focus needs to be on finding solutions to specific problems in a rational way. And that point is important, because a delusion that you're doing something when you're doing nothing is itself harmful to progress.

On March 02 2016 04:00 oneofthem wrote:
it's doubtful that trump knows either.

On March 02 2016 04:05 xDaunt wrote:

I think Trump wants single payer. He just won't say it openly because he knows that he can't right now.

On March 02 2016 04:00 ErectedZenith wrote:


Well nobody asks him about his plans.

The media are all like "You are a -cist!".

That's the fault of the media, no Trump to focus less on his plans.

On March 02 2016 04:05 xDaunt wrote:

I think Trump wants single payer. He just won't say it openly because he knows that he can't right now.

On March 02 2016 04:00 Deathstar wrote:


Trump's supporters are clearly racist. This isn't an issue of ambiguity or bias. This is outright racism. And being anti-PC isn't an excuse to align yourself with white supremacists.

On March 02 2016 03:57 KwarK wrote:

How can you separate what he says just because and what he says because he means? Trump might have a plan but it's doubtful anyone but him knows any part of what it is.

On March 02 2016 04:05 xDaunt wrote:

I think Trump wants single payer. He just won't say it openly because he knows that he can't right now.

On March 02 2016 04:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:


The bigger message is that Paul Ryan and the other GOP leaders have yet to say he has disqualified himself to be the Republican nominee and should drop out. Meaning they still want power whatever the case may be.

On March 02 2016 04:10 kwizach wrote:

He may very well want single payer, but he has no plan to implement it.

Ted Cruz is calling on Marco Rubio to suspend his campaign after Super Tuesday, contending that the Florida senator will have no realistic path to the nomination after roughly a dozen states vote Tuesday.

“He is a very talented individual, but Marco does not have any viable path whatsoever to beat Donald Trump,” the Texas senator told conservative radio host Mike Gallagher on Tuesday. “In the first four states, he has gone 0-for-4. He has not won a state.”

Indeed, Cruz won the Iowa caucuses and Trump romped in the next three contests by double-digit margins. Rubio has been praised for strong finishes but has yet to win a state. Nevertheless, he has vowed to stay in as long as it takes to stop Trump — but Cruz doesn't see that happening.

“In all likelihood today, he is not anticipating winning any states,” Cruz said of Rubio. “In all likelihood, he will lose every single Super Tuesday state, and even his home state of Florida. He’s 20 points down.”

So far, Trump leads the race with 82 delegates, followed by Cruz with 17 and Rubio with 16. Several states holding primaries on Super Tuesday maintain thresholds of 20 percent for awarding delegates — Alabama, Georgia, Texas, Tennessee and Vermont — raising the prospect that Rubio may end up blanked in one or more of those contests. And in Alabama, Trump would win every delegates should he top 50 percent of the votes.

Trump will likely maintain his lead in delegates, the Texas senator acknowledged, but Cruz will continue to follow in second after Super Tuesday, which he predicted will yield “a huge drop-off” of candidates.

On March 02 2016 04:09 farvacola wrote:
This notion that one can't successfully attack Trump using the identity of his supporters given Trump's ability to capitalize on negative press is tantamount to suggesting that the media is the only party with useful weapons. Word of mouth disapproval of what Trump stands for is running like wildfire through both my law school and work environment, and I've heard very similar stories from friends affiliated with large institutions. Granted, anecdotes are anecdotes, but election perspectives inevitably require some degree of anecdotal inference when it comes to qualifying the state of the race, and I've seen pro-Trump fervor get easily matched by anti-Trump fervor in all places but the media spotlight, a place in which we all know Trump is quite comfortable.

Again, this election seems rife with lessons, and I think there'll be a big one to learn from come the general election