EPTPlease, Cameron, do it!
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trulojucreathrma.com
United States327 Posts
Please, Cameron, do it! | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
lol been saying this for years. game is finally up it seems Now the biggest risk is the sudden dry-up in liquidity caused by capital outflow and higher leverage the financing chains are creaking | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 18 2016 00:39 Sbrubbles wrote: I'm a bit confused on the technology. Would this thing the US government is asking Apple to do apply only to situations in which they have physical access to your phone or would it also compromise data remotely as well? The first one isn't that troubling compared to the second one. The order seems to be specific to this one phone, but expect that the FBI want to do it for future iphones they are in physical possession of. But it was reviewed and approved by a judge. They already have the phone. If they wanted a back door to a phone that was in use, I assume the process would be similar to a wire tap, with a lot of the same evidence requirements. This isn’t like the garbage mass data collection thing that the NSA was doing. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On February 18 2016 01:06 oneofthem wrote: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-16/china-banks-seen-hiding-losses-in-opaque-receivables-accounts lol been saying this for years. game is finally up it seems the financing chains are creaking was just explaining global economics 101 to my roommate and this popped up, lol. debt is like cocaine, it makes the good times better and the bad times worse. when its bad you try to hide the fact you're an addict. the question is, how much are the bad loans actually distributed throughout the world financial system? | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8744 Posts
On February 18 2016 01:13 ticklishmusic wrote: was just explaining global economics 101 to my roommate and this popped up, lol. debt is like cocaine, it makes the good times better and the bad times worse. when its bad you try to hide the fact you're an addict. the question is, how much are the bad loans actually distributed throughout the world financial system? it's almost like they had a best practice model - until 2008. ... | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On February 18 2016 01:47 Doublemint wrote: it's almost like they had a best practice model - until 2008. ... call it naive and overly optimistic, but hopefully some people learned from 2008, saw the writing on the wall and pulled out. ive been worried for awhile, and the government pushing the stock market was a huge warning that they were looking for alternative returns somewhere already | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
in other news, https://lettertosanders.wordpress.com/ | ||
KwarK
United States43989 Posts
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Deathstar
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On February 18 2016 02:01 KwarK wrote: There's nothing Sanders is promising that doesn't exist in some shape in another first world country. This idea that it's impossible is American exceptionalism at its very worst. How quickly did these changes happen, though? Is single payer possible in America? Yes. Could we get it done in Bernie's first year? First term? 2nd term? Who knows. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 18 2016 02:07 Mohdoo wrote: How quickly did these changes happen, though? Is single payer possible in America? Yes. Could we get it done in Bernie's first year? First term? 2nd term? Who knows. If we are going to limit our attempts at progress to what can be done during a single presidential term, we might as well just accept that every nation in the world will surpass us. That is the opposite of exceptionalism. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22369 Posts
On February 18 2016 02:07 Mohdoo wrote: How quickly did these changes happen, though? Is single payer possible in America? Yes. Could we get it done in Bernie's first year? First term? 2nd term? Who knows. I don't know. I do know that it will never happen if you don't start. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On February 18 2016 01:55 oneofthem wrote: government backed securities in other news, https://lettertosanders.wordpress.com/ Do they have any more in depth analysis of their thoughts on this plan, or just a quick "ur wrong" and a few name/title drops? I'd be curious to see what their thoughts are on this matter. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11839 Posts
On February 18 2016 02:15 Plansix wrote: If we are going to limit our attempts at progress to what can be done during a single presidential term, we might as well just accept that every nation in the world will surpass us. That is the opposite of exceptionalism. If everyone is better than you, you are exceptional too  But agreed, politics should definitively look more at the long-term than it currently does. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18291 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/08/news/economy/sanders-income-jobs/ | ||
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Deathstar
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On February 18 2016 02:07 Mohdoo wrote: How quickly did these changes happen, though? Is single payer possible in America? Yes. Could we get it done in Bernie's first year? First term? 2nd term? Who knows. You're right why bother.  | ||
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Plansix
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kwizach
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On February 18 2016 02:22 Acrofales wrote: I don't think those economists are trying to say it's impossible to have single payer health care, or free tuition. Just that the effects of Sanders' policy on the economy will be very different, and a lot more disappointing, than Sanders is portraying it. Exactly. It's disappointing to me to see so many Sanders supporters in this thread completely dismiss the criticism levied at Sanders' claims and plans by plenty of left-wing economists purely as "Clinton propaganda", even when these economists are not affiliated in the slightest with Clinton's campaign (and suggesting that they are somehow unaware of the social programs that exist in Europe is just as stupid -- the point is that they're very skeptical of the details of Sanders' plans to achieve those social reforms). It's the classic Republican "facts don't matter, we believe it will happen" approach to policy, except in this case the blind faith is directed towards Bernie's plans. I very much support his goals, but supporting his ultimate objectives doesn't mean that we can't look critically at what he's actually put on the table. | ||
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