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ZerglingSoup
United States346 Posts
On February 13 2016 03:35 KwarK wrote: I shop at Walmart, no issues with the produce or the prices personally. The fact that they (and many of their suppliers) cheat other people out of a liveable wage in order to provide you with that low price is not an issue? | ||
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ZerglingSoup
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
I mean it's not great, but it's not awful either. I made 8 bucks an hour as a research associate in a pretty prestigious lab. EDIT: @ZerglingSoup, that is cool af | ||
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Deathstar
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KwarK
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Deathstar
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KwarK
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oBlade
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Plansix
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oBlade
United States6678 Posts
On February 13 2016 04:13 Plansix wrote: Obesity is related to shitty food being cheap, while healthy food costs more. I am sure some of that food tastes different. There's no difference between the food found at Walmart and that at any other average supermarket. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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KwarK
United States44450 Posts
Similarly Walmart sell perfectly good fresh vegetables at a reasonable price. I went yesterday and picked up some bananas and milk so I could have oats with chopped bananas and milk for breakfast this morning. Chopped green bell peppers, tomatoes and onions are the foundation of a fair number of my meals. Obesity is related to ignorance and laziness. The existence of options that cater to ignorance and laziness does not mean those options are making people obese, correlation does not equal causation. It's actually not very cheap to eat so much McDonald's you become obese. It's certainly way cheaper to eat a much smaller amount of McDonald's. I know for a fact that I couldn't afford to make myself obese on McDonald's on my current food budget but I can absolutely afford it as a lunch. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 13 2016 04:15 oBlade wrote: There's no difference between the food found at Walmart and that at any other average supermarket. This is completely inaccurate. The vegetables at my local Roch brothers are might higher quality, fresher, but cost more. Same with the Star Market. Same with a lot of the meat. You have to be naive to think that Walmart is offering cheaper food of the same quality based on pure buying power. They are not magic. Edit: Kwark, its not a theory, it is straight up reality. Go look at a ellio's pizza and see the nutritional benefits of it. Then just climb up in price until you end up making your own. The cheaper the food, the worse it is for you. I'm not a young guy any more, I read a lot of labels and most processed or pre-packed food is shit. And fresh vegies are not expensive, but they cost more than the things I am referencing. And then add on that if you are poor, you are likely working two jobs and don't have time to cook for youself. | ||
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Deathstar
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On February 13 2016 04:10 KwarK wrote: And how long ago was it that you remember chicken tasting differently? The tasty chicken train has departed before I was born. There was time people ate chicken without adding herbs, spices, or frying them. And it wasn't that people didn't have access to more flavoring tools back then. It's also not just that junk food is cheap. Obesity (extreme obesity, and overweight people) is a problem through all incomes. Junk food are straight up tastier while alternatives are bland. | ||
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KwarK
United States44450 Posts
On February 13 2016 04:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Having tasted meat at Walmart and meat that was bought at the farmers market there is no debate that it taste worse at Walmart. But what Plansix said is true subsidize healthy food instead of shitty food and or just plain stop subsidizing big agriculture. Did you do a double blind study? People say the same about preferring wine if you claim one is more expensive. Hell, wine experts used keywords traditionally used to describe red wine (rather than white wine) for white wine dyed red. The brain has a huge influence on sensory perception. | ||
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farvacola
United States18876 Posts
Don't you think there are people with various life issues that'd make this more difficult, say working two jobs while raising kids? | ||
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KwarK
United States44450 Posts
On February 13 2016 04:22 Plansix wrote: This is completely inaccurate. The vegetables at my local Roch brothers are might higher quality, fresher, but cost more. Same with the Star Market. Same with a lot of the meat. You have to be naive to think that Walmart is offering cheaper food of the same quality based on pure buying power. They are not magic. Double blind study and get back to me. Humans believe quality changes with price rather than price changes with quality. We're dumb that way. If you don't charge very much for something then the brain will think it's bad before you even start. If you charge much more than the brain will think it'll be good. Instead of going "this is really good, it should be expensive" we go "this is really expensive, it should be good". There are business models that exist only because of this phenomenon. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 13 2016 04:15 oBlade wrote: There's no difference between the food found at Walmart and that at any other average supermarket. True healthy food is not found in supermarkets though, but at your local butcher/baker/vegetable vendor/etc. If that's even a thing in the US. | ||
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KwarK
United States44450 Posts
On February 13 2016 04:26 farvacola wrote: "I strictly control my spending and diet" Don't you think there are people with various life issues that'd make this more difficult, say working two jobs while raising kids? I work two jobs and go to school for my Master's at the same time. It's why I regulate my life so much. More shit going on necessitates more control, not less. | ||
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KwarK
United States44450 Posts
On February 13 2016 04:22 Plansix wrote: This is completely inaccurate. The vegetables at my local Roch brothers are might higher quality, fresher, but cost more. Same with the Star Market. Same with a lot of the meat. You have to be naive to think that Walmart is offering cheaper food of the same quality based on pure buying power. They are not magic. Edit: Kwark, its not a theory, it is straight up reality. Go look at a ellio's pizza and see the nutritional benefits of it. Then just climb up in price until you end up making your own. The cheaper the food, the worse it is for you. I'm not a young guy any more, I read a lot of labels and most processed or pre-packed food is shit. And fresh vegies are not expensive, but they cost more than the things I am referencing. And then add on that if you are poor, you are likely working two jobs and don't have time to cook for youself. I am working two jobs and going to school, cooking for yourself is fucking easy. Hell, you need only do it like 2-3 times a week if you're good with a few key staples and can mix up leftovers. As for poor, I'm incredibly cashpoor right now because of my financial games. | ||
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