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PHILADELPHIA (CBS) – Authorities say a Philadelphia police officer is recovering after he was shot several times during an ambush late Thursday night in West Philadelphia.
Philadelphia police commissioner Richard Ross says the officer was sitting in his patrol car around 11:30 p.m. at 60th and Spruce Streets when a gunman fired 11 shots through the driver’s side of the car.
Police are calling it an “attempted assassination.”
In a press conference, Commissioner Ross said the gun used in the attack was a stolen police firearm.
“It was stolen back in October of 2013. It was reported, and that is one of the things you regret the most when an officer’s gun is stolen, when it is used against one of your own.”
The officer, 33-year-old Jesse Hartnett, was struck several times, authorities say.
“Shots fired! I’m shot! I’m bleeding heavily!” Hartnett can be heard yelling on police radio.
Commissioner Ross says the suspect has given a full confession, saying he did it in the name of Islam.
“According to him, police bend laws that are contrary to the teachings of the Quran.”
Sources say the suspect’s full confession of the alleged attack was written down and recorded on video.
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United States41117 Posts
Jeb Bush’s net favorability with Republicans has tanked since July, going down 28 points according to a new Gallup poll out Friday.
The former Florida governor, who was once his party’s presumed front-runner, had a net favorability of +27 in July, but in the newest poll it is -1.
Bush’s biggest hit came from men — the group’s favorability of him went down 39 points since July. Women’s favorability ranking went down 13 points.
Bush's name recognition is not the problem — in the crowded GOP field, he is second to only Donald Trump on that score. In July, 81 percent of people polled were familiar enough with Bush to rank him positively or negatively, that number is now 89 percent. Donald Trump’s number is 94 percent.
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On January 09 2016 01:38 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2016 13:26 GreenHorizons wrote:On January 08 2016 13:13 Esk23 wrote:On January 08 2016 10:49 GreenHorizons wrote:On January 08 2016 10:40 xDaunt wrote:
This Trump rally in Vermont is hilarious. One heckler after another being thrown out. Rumor is there are more protesters outside than supporters inside, considering all of the ones getting thrown out it's probably accurate. Rumor? Source? Evidence? There were thousands of people lined up outside that couldn't get in, typical of Trump rallies wherever he goes. I don't think anyone took a head count of protesters but they were outside cheering the people who got kicked out and there's this... I mean it was in Burlington, Vermont. Everyone knows a lot of the people there came to protest Trump lying about his attendance has become standard operating procedure for him though. A tweet by a dude with a Bernie Sanders icon saying people in an area dislike Trump more than people like him isn't exactly surprising :p I'm not so sure I would put much faith in that tweet. Maybe its true, maybe not.
I guess it was approximately 700 people
Donald Trump says the crowd for his speech Thursday night in Burlington was 25,000.
Untrue, according to the city police chief.
About 2,000 people lined up starting at 4:30 a.m. for access to the Flynn Center, Chief Brandon del Pozo told the Burlington Free Press. The Trump campaign instituted a loyalty test at the door and allowed into the 1,400-seat Flynn Center only people who professed support for the candidate.
Another 700 people, mostly protesters, gathered in City Hall Park to demonstrate.
That didn't dissuade Trump from making claims on Twitter.
"We could only get a small fraction of this 25k crowd in," Trump tweeted after his speech.
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It makes me laugh that people think Trump is "honest", are they paying any attention at all?
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Honesty doesn't win elections. Trump is in it to win, not make the world a better place.
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On January 09 2016 05:14 Mohdoo wrote:
Honesty doesn't win elections. Trump is in it to win, not make the world a better place.
That's cool if people are into supporting liars I guess.
But it still doesn't make any sense to call Trump honest.
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Three US state attorneys general criticized Volkswagen AG on Friday for citing German law to withhold documents from a group of states investigating the German automaker’s use of illegal diesel emissions software.
Connecticut attorney general George Jepsen said it was “frustrating” that “despite public statements professing cooperation ... Volkswagen is, in fact, resisting cooperation by citing German law.”
Officials said VW is withholding emails between its executives and other communications from the group of 48 US state attorneys general investigating excess emissions in 580,000 US diesel cars. The Justice Department and German prosecutors are also investigating the automaker, which has said up to 11m vehicles worldwide had the software.
With Volkswagen citing German privacy law, New York attorney general Eric Schneiderman said the German automaker “has failed to pursue every avenue to overcome the obstacles” it has cited. “Our patience with Volkswagen is wearing thin.”
He complained that VW’s cooperation has been “spotty”. VW “has been slow to produce documents from its US files, it has sought to delay responses until it completes its ’independent investigation’ several months from now,” Schneiderman said in a statement.
Megan Hawthorne, a spokeswoman for Michigan’s attorney general Bill Schuette, said “we share the frustrations” of New York and Connecticut. “We will do what is necessary to move the investigation forward.”
State attorneys general could take further steps to try to compel cooperation. VW declined to say if it is withholding documents.
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On January 09 2016 05:24 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 05:14 Mohdoo wrote:
Honesty doesn't win elections. Trump is in it to win, not make the world a better place. That's cool if people are into supporting liars I guess. But it still doesn't make any sense to call Trump honest.
The problem is that people are ignorant of things enough that they think he is.
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On January 09 2016 05:12 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 01:38 Mohdoo wrote:On January 08 2016 13:26 GreenHorizons wrote:On January 08 2016 13:13 Esk23 wrote:On January 08 2016 10:49 GreenHorizons wrote:On January 08 2016 10:40 xDaunt wrote:
This Trump rally in Vermont is hilarious. One heckler after another being thrown out. Rumor is there are more protesters outside than supporters inside, considering all of the ones getting thrown out it's probably accurate. Rumor? Source? Evidence? There were thousands of people lined up outside that couldn't get in, typical of Trump rallies wherever he goes. I don't think anyone took a head count of protesters but they were outside cheering the people who got kicked out and there's this... https://twitter.com/Mimzy122/status/685273022580666368I mean it was in Burlington, Vermont. Everyone knows a lot of the people there came to protest Trump lying about his attendance has become standard operating procedure for him though. A tweet by a dude with a Bernie Sanders icon saying people in an area dislike Trump more than people like him isn't exactly surprising :p I'm not so sure I would put much faith in that tweet. Maybe its true, maybe not. I guess it was approximately 700 people Show nested quote +Donald Trump says the crowd for his speech Thursday night in Burlington was 25,000.
Untrue, according to the city police chief.
About 2,000 people lined up starting at 4:30 a.m. for access to the Flynn Center, Chief Brandon del Pozo told the Burlington Free Press. The Trump campaign instituted a loyalty test at the door and allowed into the 1,400-seat Flynn Center only people who professed support for the candidate.
Another 700 people, mostly protesters, gathered in City Hall Park to demonstrate.
That didn't dissuade Trump from making claims on Twitter.
"We could only get a small fraction of this 25k crowd in," Trump tweeted after his speech. SourceIt makes me laugh that people think Trump is "honest", are they paying any attention at all?
I know (read) he gave out 20k tickets for the 1400 person venue. Maybe he actually gave out 25k tickets and counts that as his crowd?
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48 of the state AG's? Wow.
They should just get court orders to go in and take the docs from the VW offices. Is VW really going to complain?
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Republican presidential candidate former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) wants to replace the federal food stamp program with grants that have the same name as his super PAC, Right to Rise.
Bush's welfare reform plan, which will be unveiled Saturday in South Carolina, would end the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program as well as the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program, according to The Washington Post.
State governments would then apply for federal "Right to Rise" grants to launch programs for low-income residents.
The pro-Bush Right to Rise PAC was launched in January 2015, and the phrase "right to rise" has been a fixture for the candidate on the campaign trail.
"I know that giving states more flexibility will open the door for transformative ideas to eliminate poverty and increase opportunity," Bush said in a document outlining the plan that was provided to the Post.
The grants would include "work requirements and time limits for able-bodied adults," according to Reuters.
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On January 09 2016 05:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +Republican presidential candidate former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) wants to replace the federal food stamp program with grants that have the same name as his super PAC, Right to Rise.
Bush's welfare reform plan, which will be unveiled Saturday in South Carolina, would end the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program as well as the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program, according to The Washington Post.
State governments would then apply for federal "Right to Rise" grants to launch programs for low-income residents.
The pro-Bush Right to Rise PAC was launched in January 2015, and the phrase "right to rise" has been a fixture for the candidate on the campaign trail.
"I know that giving states more flexibility will open the door for transformative ideas to eliminate poverty and increase opportunity," Bush said in a document outlining the plan that was provided to the Post.
The grants would include "work requirements and time limits for able-bodied adults," according to Reuters. Source
After running a campaign on gifted money from his Daddy's connections (all the donations to Right to Rise PAC), Bush3 has the gall to end food stamps. Bush3's entire life has been one big welfare check from his family name yet now he wants to see the weakest members of society get even weaker. Despicable.
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Someone once said something like "There are only two kinds of cops, stupid and corrupt", today I find out it might be closer to the truth than I thought.
A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.
Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.
Most Cops Just Above Normal The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average.
Jordan has worked as a prison guard since he took the test.
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On January 09 2016 07:52 GreenHorizons wrote:Someone once said something like "There are only two kinds of cops, stupid and corrupt", today I find out it might be closer to the truth than I thought. Show nested quote +A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.
Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.
Most Cops Just Above Normal The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average.
Jordan has worked as a prison guard since he took the test. Source
Isn't that what Martin Sheen said to Decaprio in The Departed? " Kid you're an astronaut "
Its not just cops though, a lot of places screen you out if you are too intelligent, because they know you will turn over. Post office is a good example.
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The weird thing about such a policy is that it only works if people don't know about it. Which means that with all that publicity it has gotten now, it stopped working. Smart people will just inform themselves how smart they have to score on the test, and apply some of that surplus brainpower to score worse, but not too bad at the test thus making the whole policy pointless.
Or, i guess it will work at weeding out people who think they are smarter than they actually are?
Doesn't the police also need some smart people to solve crimes? Or do those join the force via a different route than the street level cops?
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On January 09 2016 08:13 Simberto wrote:
The weird thing about such a policy is that it only works if people don't know about it. Which means that with all that publicity it has gotten now, it stopped working. Smart people will just inform themselves how smart they have to score on the test, and apply some of that surplus brainpower to score worse, but not too bad at the test thus making the whole policy pointless.
Or, i guess it will work at weeding out people who think they are smarter than they actually are?
Doesn't the police also need some smart people to solve crimes? Or do those join the force via a different route than the street level cops?
Yes, detectives typically have degrees and/or other requirements. Also, the problem you are talking about is fairly easy to work around for employers because they just use the ACT, SAT, ASVAB (military entrance) exams that have incentives for people to score highly on.
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Those also aren't really intelligence tests. People have this idea that you can use any test result as a substitute for any other, but that is a really unscientific thing to do. If you want to know about someone's intelligence, you gotta use a dedicated IQ test, or your result will get polluted with all kinds of unwanted data influencing the result.
But yes, i guess if you are really dead-set on making sure that no one too intelligent joins, i am sure that someone intelligent can figure out a way to reduce the probability of that happening. It just seems like a really weird thing to do.
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I would also say that, this case the "too smart" thing might be pretense for hiring another person based on cronyism or to fill undisclosed racial quotas (similar to that firefighters case).
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It does seem silly to exclude smart people, unless it's a very small department. Detective work is great for smart people; and most places should have room for a detective or 3. IIRC detectives nearly all start as patrolmen.
agreeing with clutz, that could explain it well.
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Vermont Governor Peter Shumlin said on Thursday he would seek to legalize marijuana through the legislative process, instead of through the ballot box, for the first time in the United States.
In his State of the State address, the Democratic governor said more than 80,000 Vermonters reported using marijuana last year, contributing to a black market. He said legislators needed to proceed step by step to regulate marijuana.
"That's why I will work with you to craft the right bill that thoughtfully and carefully eliminates the era of prohibition that is currently failing us so miserably," he said, according to a copy of the address on his website.
Alaska, Colorado, Oregon, Washington and the District of Columbia have legalized marijuana after holding voter referendums. Vermont is among almost 20 states that have decriminalized marijuana possession.
Shumlin said a pot measure should include a legal market to keep marijuana and other drugs out of the hands of minors, a tax law enough to destroy the black market, and a ban on sale of edible marijuana.
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On January 09 2016 03:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +Zachary Stevens was a teenager headed to bible study when his Saturn Sky shot across a Texas highway into a pickup and killed the driver. Ruben Vazquez, 20, died after a drunk slammed into his stalled Chevy Cobalt on a California freeway. James Yingling III couldn’t brake or steer his Saturn Ion away from a culvert in Pennsylvania. He lingered for 17 days before dying at 35.
These are among the claims facing General Motors Co. this year, the first of hundreds demanding that GM pay for the deaths of loved ones or injuries ranging from broken bones to paralysis. The raft of trials, scattered across the country, begins Monday in federal court in Manhattan.
Engineers at America’s biggest automaker, which got a $50 billion government bailout in the financial crisis, knew of a flawed ignition switch but rejected a fix that would have cost 90 cents apiece, according to evidence provided to lawmakers. The switch could be jarred into the “accessory” position, shutting off the engine, disabling power steering and brakes and preventing air bags from deploying. The faulty switches are linked to the deaths of at least 124 people, many of them in entry-level cars marketed to young drivers -- a graduation gift from proud parents, a starter car for college -- least prepared to react to a sudden loss of power on the road.
General Motors spent 2014 under a harsh congressional spotlight, recalling millions of Ions, Cobalts and other vehicles. It spent 2015 scrambling for deals with prosecutors and plaintiffs. It’s already paid more than $2 billion to resolve investigations and a securities lawsuit, as well as injury claims. This year, the Detroit company will begin to see how big the total bill will be.
The car maker, which faces at least 16 trials on death and injury claims in state and federal courts in the U.S. in 2016, has said in regulatory filings that it couldn’t estimate its potential liability. It hasn’t set aside a reserve for the pending lawsuits, Jim Cain, a spokesman, said in an interview. He said GM will deal with the suits one at a time, challenging the plaintiffs to show that the defective switches caused the accidents. Source
Those fuckers.
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