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whatisthisasheep
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Slaughter
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But that isn't what you really want. What you want is to outlaw abortion (or make it as hard to get access to as possible) and that ain't happening anytime soon so Shut. The. Fuck. Up. about it. | ||
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IgnE
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whatisthisasheep
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On September 17 2015 13:17 IgnE wrote: All Trump has to do to sink Fiorina is say that her son was an addict because she was an absent parent and bad mother. Or Trump can say he raised his kids properly so they never did drugs thus they are alive. I dont see how someone can run a country when they cant even run a family. | ||
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Adreme
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ticklishmusic
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Slaughter
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
On September 17 2015 13:40 Adreme wrote: Honestly I am sort of looking forward to the democratic debate purely just to see a debate based on ideas and not looking like a bunch of children insulting each other. Bernie is not going to attack Hilary or anyone for that matter,Hilary will probably try to show similarities or even highlight how small the differences are between her and the others on the stage and unless Biden manages to get in the other people on that stage do not matter. Do you remember 8 years ago? The Hillary campaign particularly was brutal in personal attacks. The dems are no better on substance vs. style than the gop is, and thinking otherwise is foolish. | ||
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oneofthem
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Grettin
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On September 17 2015 14:00 ampson wrote: Do you remember 8 years ago? The Hillary campaign particularly was brutal in personal attacks. The dems are no better on substance vs. style than the gop is, and thinking otherwise is foolish. There was maybe one controversial ad of that entire campaign and honestly if it were run today it would not even be harsh enough to fit in the republican field. I have never seen on either side a primary look so much like a reality show with just as much substance. Usually they are fighting over policy and sometimes the attacks get harsh but they never feel like 2 children just trading barbs on the playground. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Eliezar
United States481 Posts
On September 17 2015 13:09 Slaughter wrote: You know what Republicans, if you hate planned parenthood so much then sure go defund it so you can pat yourself on the back. As long as you actually do what you say and create or increase funding to other similar organizations. As long as people have good access to these services (yes including abortions) then who cares what the name of the sign on the building is. But that isn't what you really want. What you want is to outlaw abortion (or make it as hard to get access to as possible) and that ain't happening anytime soon so Shut. The. Fuck. Up. about it. The idea that planned parenthood wouldn't be a problem is a bit weird. Things that are horribly corrupt in the US: PACs, lobbyists, and big money interests that wield political influence Corporations that get large amounts of money, support, or tax breaks from the US government They fit both. They are no different from the banks, oil companies, Koch brothers or whoever you want to look at. As far as them being required there were 1734 unique abortion providing locations in the US in 2011 and there were 820 planned parenthood locations, but there is no way that all 820 locations perform abortions. I've seen some that were no bigger than a 3 room strip center type location with maybe 10 seats in the waiting room. I think I've been inside 3-4 locations total. As far as there needing to be discussion on the abortion issue there definitely does need to be discussion on it and your response is neither thought out nor productive. Here is a case in point: Let's take mother's health. Risk of death from a first 8 weeks abortion: 1 death per 1 million Risk of death from a 15 week or later abortion: 1 death per 29K Risk of death from a 21 week or later abortion: 1 death per 11K There are tons of things to look at, but one of things that I believe we should be doing is trying to make access for the early procedures and more importantly other options easier while getting rid of the later abortions that are much more dangerous for the mother than carrying to term and are killing off a fully aware baby. But these are the things that should be discussed instead of the line you gave. Is PP another corrupt entity messing with politics and leaching tax payer money? Are we providing services that are good? Just for reference France and Russia have 12 week limits, Italy 13, and Germany 14. Yet in the US you have a vague 'fetus viability" phrase which has been interpreted as 28 weeks to 22 weeks through the years, but Why don't we hear discussion about this? Because the people programming the discussion like they do on most things are only giving extremes and playing fringes against each other. These are the types of things that a presidential candidate needs to be able to bring people together on. I honestly believe Bernie Sanders could have a legitimate conversation about this, but I don't think you'd be able to get one from Ted Cruz or Hillary Clinton. Also, because a big political force would have their financial bottom line hurt with any curtailing of services they currently provide. Oh yeah...and they are a nonprofit... | ||
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rod409
United States36 Posts
On September 17 2015 12:49 cLutZ wrote: So, we have his initial tax reform: A widely held success. However, like you said, the year following there was a deficit projected and here is what is seen as his mistakes: 1) Not insisting on maintaining the low rates for over a year to give them a chance; 2) Giving up recurring (aka Congress can ignore them) tax hikes for one time spending reductions (which the later Dem Congresses continually whittled away at). Thus, all the revenue that was meant to close the deficit never really did because domestic spending continued to increase. This "mistake" was made again by Bush 43. So then you get to Gingrich, who realizes this, and says "aha the only chips we should actually bargain for are permanent, or semi permanent programs" thus welfare reform and other reforms happen and actually gives you a balanced budget. TLDR: Democrats lied to Reagan to get the post-reform tax increases, so pointing this out as him being reasonable is just Dems pointing out that they can't be trusted to hold up their end of a bargain. Reagan's tax cuts were not successful. Bob Dole was chairing the senate finance committee and was pushing for tax increases because he didn't want democrats to undue the income tax cuts. A lot of the promised decreases in spending came in reduced interest payments and there was also higher than expected medicare costs which offset cost controls in it. Defense spending was supposed to be decreased as well and the administration never was going keep that end of the bargain. During the 80's non-defense discretionary spending was falling and defense kept rising. This myth that the democrats somehow duped Reagan is an excuse just to put him on a pedestal. | ||
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Dapper_Cad
United Kingdom964 Posts
On September 17 2015 13:21 whatisthisasheep wrote: Or Trump can say he raised his kids properly so they never did drugs thus they are alive. I dont see how someone can run a country when they cant even run a family. Maybe because one is an administrative and political post, the head of state of a country of 350 million people and the other is being a mother? And what kind of monster "runs" a family? | ||
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IgnE
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Dapper_Cad
United Kingdom964 Posts
On September 17 2015 15:44 IgnE wrote: What kind of monster "runs this town"? I don't know, what kind of monster "runs this town"? | ||
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oneofthem
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DarkPlasmaBall
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