
US Politics Mega-thread - Page 10000
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DarkPlasmaBall
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IyMoon
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On March 03 2018 00:26 Danglars wrote: Alec Baldwin is one of the last people at SNL making it funny. Ever since Spicer left SNL just has not been the same ![]() Edit: Because this is page 10000 I figured I should talk about politics. What do the conservatives here think of trumps tweet calling trade wars a good thing? Do you feel that because the American market is so big that we will come out on top in this? | ||
brian
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Uldridge
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PhoenixVoid
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Also congratulations on the big 10,000 guys. We've went through a lot of crap and arguments, but I think we've had a lot of fun and learned stuff along the road as well. | ||
Plansix
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What is going to be: racism or gender roles? Which terrible discussion will we dive into? | ||
Danglars
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Donald Trump made the biggest policy blunder of his Presidency Thursday by announcing that next week he’ll impose tariffs of 25% on imported steel and 10% on aluminum. This tax increase will punish American workers, invite retaliation that will harm U.S. exports, divide his political coalition at home, anger allies abroad, and undermine his tax and regulatory reforms. The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 1.7% on the news, as investors absorbed the self-inflicted folly. Mr. Trump has spent a year trying to lift the economy from its Obama doldrums, with considerable success. Annual GDP growth has averaged 3% in the past nine months if you adjust for temporary factors, and on Tuesday the ISM manufacturing index for February came in at a gaudy 60.8. American factories are humming, and consumer and business confidence are soaring. Apparently Mr. Trump can’t stand all this winning. His tariffs will benefit a handful of companies, at least for a while, but they will harm many more. “We have with us the biggest steel companies in the United States. They used to be a lot bigger, but they’re going to be a lot bigger again,” Mr. Trump declared in a meeting Thursday at the White House with steel and aluminum executives. No, they won’t. The immediate impact will be to make the U.S. an island of high-priced steel and aluminum. The U.S. companies will raise their prices to nearly match the tariffs while snatching some market share. The additional profits will flow to executives in higher bonuses and shareholders, at least until the higher prices hurt their steel- and aluminum-using customers. Then U.S. steel and aluminum makers will be hurt as well. Mr. Trump seems not to understand that steel-using industries in the U.S. employ some 6.5 million Americans, while steel makers employ about 140,000. Transportation industries, including aircraft and autos, account for about 40% of domestic steel consumption, followed by packaging with 20% and building construction with 15%. All will have to pay higher prices, making them less competitive globally and in the U.S. Instead of importing steel to make goods in America, many companies will simply import the finished product made from cheaper steel or aluminum abroad. Mr. Trump fancies himself the savior of the U.S. auto industry, but he might note that Ford Motor shares fell 3% Thursday and GM’s fell 4%. U.S. Steel gained 5.8%. Mr. Trump has handed a giant gift to foreign car makers, which will now have a cost advantage over Detroit. How do you think that will play in Michigan in 2020? The National Retail Federation called the tariffs a “tax on American families,” who will pay higher prices for canned goods and even beer in aluminum cans. Another name for this is the Trump voter tax. The economic damage will quickly compound because other countries can and will retaliate against U.S. exports. Not steel, but against farm goods, Harley-Davidson motorcycles, Cummins engines, John Deere tractors, and much more. Foreign countries are canny enough to know how to impose maximum political pain on Republican Senators and Congressmen in an election year by targeting exports from their states and districts. Has anyone at the White House political shop thought this through? Then there’s the diplomatic damage, made worse by Mr. Trump’s use of Section 232 to claim a threat to national security. In the process Mr. Trump is declaring a unilateral exception to U.S. trade agreements that other countries won’t forget and will surely emulate. www.wsj.com Happy 10k. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
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On March 03 2018 00:40 Uldridge wrote: Maybe I used hyperbolic speech, and maybe there aren't any statistics out there so maybe my claims are invalid because of it, or maybe they're more dismissable because you don't feel like I can make any claims then, but women definitely feel the clock ticking if they haven't had kids when they're approaching 30. I agree with you that many women who want children feel the biological clock ticking and worry that time is running out for them to become pregnant as they get older. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
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On March 03 2018 00:42 Plansix wrote: Well we are at the 10,000th page. We need tap into TLPol thread’s greatest hits. What is going to be: racism or gender roles? Which terrible discussion will we dive into? Why not both!? Women don't get paid less and don't get treated unfairly, but black women really don't. | ||
farvacola
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Plansix
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On March 03 2018 00:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I agree with you that many women who want children feel the biological clock ticking and worry that time is running out for them to become pregnant as they get older. That anxiety is unique to women, from a late 30s guy with no kids. It may manifest itself differently, but it exists. On March 03 2018 00:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Why not both!? Women don't get paid less and don't get treated unfairly, but black women really don't. Fun fact, if you don’t count fighting game characters, there are less than 20 black female protagonists in all of video games. All of them. Ok, maybe it’s not fun at all. | ||
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
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On March 03 2018 00:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Yay 10,000 pages of (mostly) US Politics! Very impressive ![]() How many pages would it be if repeated discussions could be filtered out? ![]() | ||
Mohdoo
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Danglars
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I think we’re seeing useful transparency in political forces and motivations that were simmering in the Obama years. It’s a pretty good thing, all things considered. | ||
farvacola
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On March 03 2018 00:52 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: How many pages would it be if repeated discussions could be filtered out? ![]() Probably around 25k less I'd estimate. | ||
xDaunt
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On March 03 2018 00:52 Plansix wrote: That anxiety is unique to women, from a late 30s guy with no kids. It may manifest itself differently, but it exists. It's not the same biological imperative for men. It's just bizarre to me that people try to equate men and women on reproductive urges. The biological wiring is very clearly different. | ||
ZerOCoolSC2
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Zambrah
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Plansix
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So what I am saying is you are all SJW now. Welcome, we have t-shirts and a buyer’s reward card at Starbucks. | ||
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
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Very Stable Genius Economics™ hard at work | ||
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