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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46212 Posts
March 02 2018 15:38 GMT
#199981
Yay 10,000 pages of (mostly) US Politics! Very impressive
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-02 15:40:39
March 02 2018 15:39 GMT
#199982
On March 03 2018 00:26 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2018 00:12 Doodsmack wrote:

President Donald Trump and Alec Baldwin engaged in a Twitter feud Friday morning after the President mocked the actor's impression of him on "Saturday Night Live."

"Alec Baldwin, whose dying mediocre career was saved by his terrible impersonation of me on SNL, now says playing me was agony. Alec, it was agony for those who were forced to watch," Trump said on Twitter, at first misspelling Baldwin's name as "Alex" before fixing.

"Bring back Darrell Hammond, funnier and a far greater talent!" Trump said, referring to the former SNL cast member who formerly portrayed him.

Baldwin, who made his debut on SNL as Trump during the 2016 campaign, quickly shot back.

"Agony though it may be, I'd like to hang in there for the impeachment hearings, the resignation speech, the farewell helicopter ride to Mara-A-Lago. You know. The Good Stuff. That we've all been waiting for," the actor tweeted.

Next, he tweeted: "Looking forward to the Trump Presidential Library. A putting green. Recipes for chocolate cake. A live Twitter feed for visitors to post on. A little black book w the phone numbers of porn stars. You're in and out in five minutes. Just like..."


www.cnn.com

Alec Baldwin is one of the last people at SNL making it funny.


Ever since Spicer left SNL just has not been the same

Edit: Because this is page 10000 I figured I should talk about politics.

What do the conservatives here think of trumps tweet calling trade wars a good thing? Do you feel that because the American market is so big that we will come out on top in this?
Something witty
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9642 Posts
March 02 2018 15:39 GMT
#199983
congrats to everyone still participating. y’all are a bunch of people i think we’re all better off for knowing.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5186 Posts
March 02 2018 15:40 GMT
#199984
Maybe I used hyperbolic speech, and maybe there aren't any statistics out there so maybe my claims are invalid because of it, or maybe they're more dismissable because you don't feel like I can make any claims then, but women definitely feel the clock ticking if they haven't had kids when they're approaching 30.
Taxes are for Terrans
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32750 Posts
March 02 2018 15:41 GMT
#199985
The Trump administration's symbol may as well be a turnstyle at this rate.

Also congratulations on the big 10,000 guys. We've went through a lot of crap and arguments, but I think we've had a lot of fun and learned stuff along the road as well.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 02 2018 15:42 GMT
#199986
Well we are at the 10,000th page. We need tap into TLPol thread’s greatest hits.

What is going to be: racism or gender roles? Which terrible discussion will we dive into?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
March 02 2018 15:42 GMT
#199987
Donald Trump made the biggest policy blunder of his Presidency Thursday by announcing that next week he’ll impose tariffs of 25% on imported steel and 10% on aluminum. This tax increase will punish American workers, invite retaliation that will harm U.S. exports, divide his political coalition at home, anger allies abroad, and undermine his tax and regulatory reforms. The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 1.7% on the news, as investors absorbed the self-inflicted folly.

Mr. Trump has spent a year trying to lift the economy from its Obama doldrums, with considerable success. Annual GDP growth has averaged 3% in the past nine months if you adjust for temporary factors, and on Tuesday the ISM manufacturing index for February came in at a gaudy 60.8. American factories are humming, and consumer and business confidence are soaring.

Apparently Mr. Trump can’t stand all this winning. His tariffs will benefit a handful of companies, at least for a while, but they will harm many more. “We have with us the biggest steel companies in the United States. They used to be a lot bigger, but they’re going to be a lot bigger again,” Mr. Trump declared in a meeting Thursday at the White House with steel and aluminum executives.

No, they won’t. The immediate impact will be to make the U.S. an island of high-priced steel and aluminum. The U.S. companies will raise their prices to nearly match the tariffs while snatching some market share. The additional profits will flow to executives in higher bonuses and shareholders, at least until the higher prices hurt their steel- and aluminum-using customers. Then U.S. steel and aluminum makers will be hurt as well.

Mr. Trump seems not to understand that steel-using industries in the U.S. employ some 6.5 million Americans, while steel makers employ about 140,000. Transportation industries, including aircraft and autos, account for about 40% of domestic steel consumption, followed by packaging with 20% and building construction with 15%. All will have to pay higher prices, making them less competitive globally and in the U.S.

Instead of importing steel to make goods in America, many companies will simply import the finished product made from cheaper steel or aluminum abroad. Mr. Trump fancies himself the savior of the U.S. auto industry, but he might note that Ford Motor shares fell 3% Thursday and GM’s fell 4%. U.S. Steel gained 5.8%. Mr. Trump has handed a giant gift to foreign car makers, which will now have a cost advantage over Detroit. How do you think that will play in Michigan in 2020?

The National Retail Federation called the tariffs a “tax on American families,” who will pay higher prices for canned goods and even beer in aluminum cans. Another name for this is the Trump voter tax.

The economic damage will quickly compound because other countries can and will retaliate against U.S. exports. Not steel, but against farm goods, Harley-Davidson motorcycles, Cummins engines, John Deere tractors, and much more.

Foreign countries are canny enough to know how to impose maximum political pain on Republican Senators and Congressmen in an election year by targeting exports from their states and districts. Has anyone at the White House political shop thought this through?

Then there’s the diplomatic damage, made worse by Mr. Trump’s use of Section 232 to claim a threat to national security. In the process Mr. Trump is declaring a unilateral exception to U.S. trade agreements that other countries won’t forget and will surely emulate.

www.wsj.com

Happy 10k.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46212 Posts
March 02 2018 15:47 GMT
#199988
On March 03 2018 00:40 Uldridge wrote:
Maybe I used hyperbolic speech, and maybe there aren't any statistics out there so maybe my claims are invalid because of it, or maybe they're more dismissable because you don't feel like I can make any claims then, but women definitely feel the clock ticking if they haven't had kids when they're approaching 30.


I agree with you that many women who want children feel the biological clock ticking and worry that time is running out for them to become pregnant as they get older.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46212 Posts
March 02 2018 15:49 GMT
#199989
On March 03 2018 00:42 Plansix wrote:
Well we are at the 10,000th page. We need tap into TLPol thread’s greatest hits.

What is going to be: racism or gender roles? Which terrible discussion will we dive into?


Why not both!? Women don't get paid less and don't get treated unfairly, but black women really don't.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
March 02 2018 15:50 GMT
#199990
Gotta get a post on the 10,000th page
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-02 15:54:36
March 02 2018 15:52 GMT
#199991
On March 03 2018 00:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2018 00:40 Uldridge wrote:
Maybe I used hyperbolic speech, and maybe there aren't any statistics out there so maybe my claims are invalid because of it, or maybe they're more dismissable because you don't feel like I can make any claims then, but women definitely feel the clock ticking if they haven't had kids when they're approaching 30.


I agree with you that many women who want children feel the biological clock ticking and worry that time is running out for them to become pregnant as they get older.

That anxiety is unique to women, from a late 30s guy with no kids. It may manifest itself differently, but it exists.

On March 03 2018 00:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2018 00:42 Plansix wrote:
Well we are at the 10,000th page. We need tap into TLPol thread’s greatest hits.

What is going to be: racism or gender roles? Which terrible discussion will we dive into?


Why not both!? Women don't get paid less and don't get treated unfairly, but black women really don't.

Fun fact, if you don’t count fighting game characters, there are less than 20 black female protagonists in all of video games. All of them. Ok, maybe it’s not fun at all.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 02 2018 15:52 GMT
#199992
On March 03 2018 00:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Yay 10,000 pages of (mostly) US Politics! Very impressive

How many pages would it be if repeated discussions could be filtered out?
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 02 2018 15:53 GMT
#199993
Congrats on 10k, everyone. Happy to have discussed so much with all of you!
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-02 15:54:48
March 02 2018 15:54 GMT
#199994
I started in this series of thread in forum six years ago. I thought Romney had it (though his lame campainging was a worry). A year and a half ago, I thought Clinton had it, and I was wrong (and thank God I was—we really dodged a bullet).

I think we’re seeing useful transparency in political forces and motivations that were simmering in the Obama years. It’s a pretty good thing, all things considered.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
March 02 2018 15:54 GMT
#199995
On March 03 2018 00:52 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2018 00:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Yay 10,000 pages of (mostly) US Politics! Very impressive

How many pages would it be if repeated discussions could be filtered out?

Probably around 25k less I'd estimate.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 02 2018 15:56 GMT
#199996
On March 03 2018 00:52 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2018 00:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 03 2018 00:40 Uldridge wrote:
Maybe I used hyperbolic speech, and maybe there aren't any statistics out there so maybe my claims are invalid because of it, or maybe they're more dismissable because you don't feel like I can make any claims then, but women definitely feel the clock ticking if they haven't had kids when they're approaching 30.


I agree with you that many women who want children feel the biological clock ticking and worry that time is running out for them to become pregnant as they get older.

That anxiety is unique to women, from a late 30s guy with no kids. It may manifest itself differently, but it exists.

It's not the same biological imperative for men. It's just bizarre to me that people try to equate men and women on reproductive urges. The biological wiring is very clearly different.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
March 02 2018 15:56 GMT
#199997
I don't think it is unique to only women. Some men may feel that they are also getting too old to have children, due to not being able to give them a lot of time playing with them because maybe their bodies are broke. Women may not be able to bear children, but I think some men want to get out and play with their children as well.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
March 02 2018 15:58 GMT
#199998
Merry Shitmas for 10,000 pages of grueling political shitposting everybod. You're my morning news paper!
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 02 2018 16:00 GMT
#199999
It has been interesting to see the general shift in tones in this thread. In general I have noticed a lot regulars here have become more accepting of the idea that problems like income inequality, police abuse, racism, sexism and so on are more prevalent that they original believed. Posters who used to adopt a defensive posture of denial no longer do that when the topic comes up.

So what I am saying is you are all SJW now. Welcome, we have t-shirts and a buyer’s reward card at Starbucks.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-02 16:00:55
March 02 2018 16:00 GMT
#200000


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