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Israel Bombs Palestine; Kills Hamas Leader - Page 47
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Skipper94
Israel12 Posts
yep yep yep | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Plus, the first Palestinian female suicide bomber was a Christian...so this is much more than a holy war. | ||
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Art.FeeL
1163 Posts
On November 17 2012 05:33 Noam wrote: I don't follow any media nowadays, I can hear those words directly from Hamas or Iran's leaders. I guess I am hearing their words after they have been translated, so perhaps all the people who speak Arab and English in the world are lying to me and the original words are not them saying I should die? So you don't follow any media, but somehow hear what those leaders say. Do you happen to be in the audience they speak to? The easiest thing to do is to point fingers. It is also the weakest. | ||
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Grimmyman123
Canada939 Posts
Post of the thread. Thank you for the link. | ||
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CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
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Skipper94
Israel12 Posts
On November 17 2012 06:20 CHOMPMannER wrote: Israel is beyond evil, they have been slaughtering Palestinians for years. Rather unfortunate that they are violating over 50 UN Regulations and nothing is being done. Israel doesn't have much casualties compared to Gaza since Israel invests money in defenses too instead of offense. Incase you didn't here about it, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome Kipat Barzel- took down more than 220 misses that Gaza launched in the last few days, therefor "only"( way too much) 3 people were killed from their attack. btw, Gaza and palatines in general have been attacking and launching missiles toward Israel for years but now, after Israel took down and important Hamas leader that used to order these launching and terror acts, Gaza took out the big guns and decided to shoot everything. So as a reaction Israel basically fought back. That's a really short and a small picture of what happened. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
Is this thing serious? This guy is really an historian ? Because dumbing such conflict down to arabs don't want to recognize jew to have a state is so sad for history... LOL. There is so many things wrongs, like the UN divided Palestine in half. | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On November 17 2012 06:35 WhiteDog wrote: Is this thing serious? This guy is really an historian ? Because dumbing such conflict down to arabs don't want to recognize jew to have a state is so sad for history... LOL. There is so many things wrongs, like the UN divided Palestine in half. My very first thoughts were Joan Peters http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_Time_Immemorial | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On November 17 2012 06:40 Shiragaku wrote: My very first thoughts were Joan Peters http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_Time_Immemorial Thanks for enlighting me. | ||
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Art.FeeL
1163 Posts
On November 17 2012 06:29 Skipper94 wrote: Israel doesn't have much casualties compared to Gaza since Israel invests money in defenses too instead of offense. Incase you didn't here about it, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome Kipat Barzel- took down more than 220 misses that Gaza launched in the last few days, therefor "only"( way too much) 3 people were killed from their attack. btw, Gaza and palatines in general have been attacking and launching missiles toward Israel for years but now, after Israel took down and important Hamas leader that used to order these launching and terror acts, Gaza took out the big guns and decided to shoot everything. So as a reaction Israel basically fought back. That's a really short and a small picture of what happened. That's a distorted picture of what happened and Israel has less casualties because they are able to reduce them, while Hamas isn't because of economic restrictions Israel imposes on Gaza. ''Gaza and palestinians in general''....using these words really shows how you can't differentiate between things. If you are against Hamas and say that Hamas has been harming Israelis I agree, they are definitely part of the problem, But you saying Palestinians in general have been launching missiles sheds light on how an entire population is vilified. You are saying that 3 lives lost is too much. I agree, every life should be preserved, but if 3 lives are ''way too much'', what do you say about 1400 lives lost. Or the life of one Israeli isn't equal to the life of one Palestinian? It does seem to me that this is predominant opinion in Israel. | ||
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Skipper94
Israel12 Posts
On November 17 2012 06:44 Art.FeeL wrote: That's a distorted picture of what happened and Israel has less casualties because they are able to reduce them, while Hamas isn't because of economic restrictions Israel imposes on Gaza. ''Gaza and palestinians in general''....using these words really shows how you can't differentiate between things. If you are against Hamas and say that Hamas has been harming Israelis I agree, they are definitely part of the problem, But you saying Palestinians in general have been launching missiles sheds light on how an entire population is vilified. You are saying that 3 lives lost is too much. I agree, every life should be preserved, but if 3 lives are ''way too much'', what do you say about 1400 lives lost. Or the life of one Israeli isn't equal to the life of one Palestinian? It does seem to me that this is predominant opinion in Israel. How were those 1400 lives lost is the answer you seek. | ||
Noam
Israel2209 Posts
Iron Dome is an anti-missile defense system that only shoots down projectiles that have a confirmed trajectory to hit a populated area, and there have been more than one hundred and fifty successful interceptions today. (enjoy some "fireworks" footage) Would our government be able to show so much restraint if there were 150 more direct hits on our civilians? doubtful. Iron Dome is actually saving Palestinian lives at this point then. The second thing saving Palestinian lives is the very successful air strike by the IAF on all known Fajr5 locations. Fajer5 is an Iranian missile that can reach Tel Aviv, and our intelligence service has been following these very advanced missiles throughout their journey from Iran, through Syria, then to Yemen, then to Sudan, then Egypt and then finally to the Gaza Strip where every time they were moved we kept watch and recorded their exact locations Almost all of those missiles were destroyed before Hamas had a chance to use them, and fortunately they are completely inept and cannot properly use the few they have left. The two they shot at Tel Aviv apparently dismantled midflight or crashed in to the sea, and the one they shot at Jerusalem did not reach its destination as well. 20-30 hits from those missiles on Tel Aviv today? there would be no Hamas next week. And unfortunately destroying Hamas would cause civilian casualties. It may be cruel to say while we are actively bombing them, but this is the truth as I see it. We are holding back on any attacks where civilians may be hurt and if more Israeli civilians get hurt then the situation will surely change. | ||
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Art.FeeL
1163 Posts
On November 17 2012 06:51 Skipper94 wrote: How were those 1400 lives lost is the answer you seek. I don't know, may you enlighten me? To Noam: Aha, now Palestinians should be thankful because Israel could do even more damage? | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On November 17 2012 06:35 WhiteDog wrote: Is this thing serious? This guy is really an historian ? Because dumbing such conflict down to arabs don't want to recognize jew to have a state is so sad for history... LOL. There is so many things wrongs, like the UN divided Palestine in half. Alright, time to get some honesty out of you. 1) Do you acknowledge that the Palestinians will never accept a two-state solution? 2) Do you support a two-state solution? | ||
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Skipper94
Israel12 Posts
Wrong motivation and ideology resulted these deaths | ||
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sekritzzz
1515 Posts
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Gaza-Israel-Violence-The-by-Rabbi-Arthur-Wasko-121116-181.html Most people who have actually been following the events know that Netanyahu wants this crisis to escalate for his election bid. He is horrible at everything but being a war-monger. Not surprised he called for snap elections not even a month ago. | ||
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ECHOZs
United States499 Posts
Thanks for the laugh. That guy could not be more wrong on basically every point but what do you expect from a anti-Muslim who didn't want the first Muslim congressman to swear oath on the Koran because "the act undermines American civilization". http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2006/11/28/america,_not_keith_ellison,_decides_what_book_a_congressman_takes_his_oath_on | ||
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Art.FeeL
1163 Posts
On November 17 2012 06:57 Skipper94 wrote: Wrong motivation and ideology resulted these deaths Care to elaborate some more? | ||
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
On November 17 2012 06:44 Art.FeeL wrote: I agree, every life should be preserved, but if 3 lives are ''way too much'', what do you say about 1400 lives lost. Or the life of one Israeli isn't equal to the life of one Palestinian? It does seem to me that this is predominant opinion in Israel. Interestingly enough, the Israelis traded over 1,000 Arab Israeli prisoners for Gilad Shalit, a single soldier held in captive. So I guess sometimes that 1,000-1 ratio goes the other way. | ||
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Art.FeeL
1163 Posts
On November 17 2012 07:02 Durp wrote: Interestingly enough, the Israelis traded over 1,000 Arab Israeli prisoners for Gilad Shalit, a single soldier held in captive. So I guess sometimes that 1,000-1 ratio goes the other way. That just just strengthens what I said. | ||
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