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Good news for all Dota fans! Dota 2 is now listed as an official game for this year's WCG.
WCG 2012 Official Titles
FPS:
Cross Fire® (NEOWIZ GAMES)
RTS:
DOTA™2 (Valve)
StarCraft® II: Wings of Liberty™ (Blizzard Entertainment)
Warcraft® III: The Frozen Throne™ (Blizzard Entertainment)
Sports:
FIFA 12 (Electronic Arts)
Meanwhile, LoL doesn't show up as neither an official, nor promotional title, which personally makes me a happy dude! Also of note, WC3 DotA shows up at promotional titles, LoL got completely shafted!
Sources:
http://www.wcg.com/renew/fun/news/news_view.asp?keyno=C12071910002
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/3677
Wonder what prize pool it will have and how will teams qualify
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Good news everyone! *Professor Farnsworth voice*
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Don't have to say LoL not listed in the title, that will only make for dumb flame wars and makes TL dota community look bad.
You don't like LoL thats fine, don't have to express it here..
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WCG teams all need to have the same nationality right?
This means we wont see Mouz, Na'Vi etc as a group.
Kind of cool but also kind of not.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
WCG teams need ~51% from the same country, so teams like Na'vi, mTw(they have 3 frenchmen I think?) can join but Mouz can't because they have people from all over.
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On July 19 2012 19:02 Kipsate wrote:
Don't have to say LoL not listed in the title, that will only make for dumb flame wars and makes TL dota community look bad
You don't like LoL thats fine, don't have to express it here..
Considering LoL's presence within e-sports, it seems quite relevant that WCG doesn't include LoL. If C&C was being played, and SC2 was not, I don't think anyone would be complaining about it being in the title.
As for his additional comments about the game... no comment.
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On July 19 2012 19:09 Alur wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 19:02 Kipsate wrote:
Don't have to say LoL not listed in the title, that will only make for dumb flame wars and makes TL dota community look bad
You don't like LoL thats fine, don't have to express it here.. Considering LoL's presence within e-sports, it seems quite relevant that WCG doesn't include LoL. If C&C was being played, and SC2 was not, I don't think anyone would be complaining about it being in the title. As for his additional comments about the game... no comment.
bc the final will most likely be held in china and dota2 is a better game to market in china?
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On July 19 2012 19:02 Kipsate wrote:
Don't have to say LoL not listed in the title, that will only make for dumb flame wars and makes TL dota community look bad.
You don't like LoL thats fine, don't have to express it here..
Well if it's inapropriate I guess mods should have a say about it, I don't mind if it needs to be changed. I find it relevant not only because of my personal opinion on LoL, but also because I find it hard for both games to coexist successfully. When dota 2 is finally released they WILL compete for the same market.
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What a dumb post...
1) WCG is a shitty tournament. Nothing really to be aspire to be at.
2) Why list lol and not hon or any other ARTS? Go back to reddit with your drama posts.
3) This has been discussed here in various topics before.
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On July 19 2012 19:13 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 19:09 Alur wrote:On July 19 2012 19:02 Kipsate wrote:
Don't have to say LoL not listed in the title, that will only make for dumb flame wars and makes TL dota community look bad
You don't like LoL thats fine, don't have to express it here.. Considering LoL's presence within e-sports, it seems quite relevant that WCG doesn't include LoL. If C&C was being played, and SC2 was not, I don't think anyone would be complaining about it being in the title. As for his additional comments about the game... no comment. bc the final will most likely be held in china and dota2 is a better game to market in china?
Let's summarize: Kipsate thinks mentioning the fact that LoL won't be in WCG is overly subjective, and reflects badly on the TL DotA community. I respectfully disagree.
While you're correct in your assessment about china and DotA, I don't see how my post questions this fact at all.
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LoL not being listed has nothing to do with LoL's popularity or w/e, but rather has to do with WCG and Riot not being able to come to an agreement on terms.
TBH, WCG has been declining for a long time. I'm not sure many people will really care that LoL isn't listed while DotA2 is.
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On July 19 2012 19:20 SilverStar wrote:
What a dumb post...
1) WCG is a shitty tournament. Nothing really to be aspire to be at.
2) Why list lol and not hon or any other ARTS? Go back to reddit with your drama posts.
3) This has been discussed here in various topics before.
1) That's your opinion though
2) HoN isn't relevant at all since it's been dwindling for a long time already, LoL is relevant
3) This is now official, it was just rumours before, official list was just released
4) Your post looks really smart
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On July 19 2012 19:13 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 19:02 Kipsate wrote:
Don't have to say LoL not listed in the title, that will only make for dumb flame wars and makes TL dota community look bad.
You don't like LoL thats fine, don't have to express it here.. Well if it's inapropriate I guess mods should have a say about it, I don't mind if it needs to be changed. I find it relevant not only because of my personal opinion on LoL, but also because I find it hard for both games to coexist successfully. When dota 2 is finally released they WILL compete for the same market.
Actually they will be a LOT of people who will prefer only the game style of just 1 of these games, i've played a lot of games in both titles and i have to admit - the feeling is so much different even though the rules are similar.
I won't go into details why i think the games are so much different because that would 100% surely start a flame war, but the design philosophies are so much different for both companies that DOTA2 and LOL can happily coexist.
Hating the other game just because it is similar is just pointless paranoia. You will see that both games will be doing fine 2+ years later, sadly hating will still continue even though the existence of either of these games didn't threaten the other in the end - only the people who were the fans to both suffered by getting annoyed by reading full of prejudice posts of their "gamemates"
By the way i don't care about WCG since a few years, there are so many better tourneys nowadays... TI2, dreamhack and the tourney at the end of LoL Season2 are way more awaited by me :S
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"LoL not listed" in the title and your tone against LoL is so uncalled for.
Take your LoL vs Dota shit somewhere else. TL doesn't need that bullshit
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Just delete that part of the title any everyone will be happy and peaceful
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Great news, guess Riot couldn't bribe WCG
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I hate to say this but.....don't start a flame war. Just appreciate the fact that Dota 2 is a WCG title. Nothing else.
On July 21 2012 22:22 Kamakiri wrote:
Great news, guess Riot couldn't bribe WCG
Dude.....really?
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Didn't know WCG was still kicking. I thought that they announced a while back that they were only doing mobile games or something outlandish like that. Oh well, it's great to see them back on the horse, and especially awesome to see that they've included DotA 2. The DotA 1 thing seems weird, considering they're almost identical by now.
On July 19 2012 19:20 SilverStar wrote:
What a dumb post...
1) WCG is a shitty tournament. Nothing really to be aspire to be at.
@_@ That strikes me as fairly ignorant. You do know they single-handedly kept foreigner Brood War alive, right? WCG used to be the big thing to train for every year--no other tournament was nearly as large-scale as WCG in the foreign Brood War scene. Bashing WCG (especially on a site like teamliquid) is a big no-no. It has a special place in many of our hearts.
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For a long time though, WCG has never selected their games based on popularity, rather they've always gone for games that companies were trying to promote, as evidenced by their FPS lineup and nonexistent fighting game lineup (It used to be Dead or Alive).
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While I am personally happy that LoL isn't included, the title is bad and is only made to induce rage/flame. If someone wants to make people notice that LoL won't be played at WCG, then he will make a thread in the LoL subforums and everything would be fine like that.
On another note, I'm surprised that WC3 is still being there. I mean, BW has been put aside (probably because of SC2), but I was under the impression that it has always been a more successful esport than WC3 (and not just in Korea). Most of the top players from both games have switched to SC2, but I guess since BW is now only played competitively in Korea it cannot appear in WCG  . I'm sad.
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im a dota player myself, surprised they included an (unreleased game) over LoL, a game with millions more active players. (so i hear)
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On July 25 2012 12:43 Farkinator wrote:Didn't know WCG was still kicking. I thought that they announced a while back that they were only doing mobile games or something outlandish like that. Oh well, it's great to see them back on the horse, and especially awesome to see that they've included DotA 2. The DotA 1 thing seems weird, considering they're almost identical by now. Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 19:20 SilverStar wrote:
What a dumb post...
1) WCG is a shitty tournament. Nothing really to be aspire to be at.
@_@ That strikes me as fairly ignorant. You do know they single-handedly kept foreigner Brood War alive, right? WCG used to be the big thing to train for every year--no other tournament was nearly as large-scale as WCG in the foreign Brood War scene. Bashing WCG (especially on a site like teamliquid) is a big no-no. It has a special place in many of our hearts.
WCG has been on the decline for many many years now. It's a pretty shitty tournament nowadays compared to all the other big tourneys out there.
It had it's golden age, but that's long gone.
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On July 25 2012 14:05 PatouPower wrote:While I am personally happy that LoL isn't included, the title is bad and is only made to induce rage/flame. If someone wants to make people notice that LoL won't be played at WCG, then he will make a thread in the LoL subforums and everything would be fine like that. On another note, I'm surprised that WC3 is still being there. I mean, BW has been put aside (probably because of SC2), but I was under the impression that it has always been a more successful esport than WC3 (and not just in Korea). Most of the top players from both games have switched to SC2, but I guess since BW is now only played competitively in Korea it cannot appear in WCG . I'm sad.
Wc3 is still very popular in China afaik
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On July 25 2012 17:41 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 14:05 PatouPower wrote:While I am personally happy that LoL isn't included, the title is bad and is only made to induce rage/flame. If someone wants to make people notice that LoL won't be played at WCG, then he will make a thread in the LoL subforums and everything would be fine like that. On another note, I'm surprised that WC3 is still being there. I mean, BW has been put aside (probably because of SC2), but I was under the impression that it has always been a more successful esport than WC3 (and not just in Korea). Most of the top players from both games have switched to SC2, but I guess since BW is now only played competitively in Korea it cannot appear in WCG . I'm sad. Wc3 is still very popular in China afaik
wc3 is HUGELY popular there. If you look at every chinese game site there's ALWAYS a wc3 section and dota. Their domestic eSports league G-League has wc3 incl. ofc. It's like koreas relationship with bw.
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On July 19 2012 19:28 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 19:20 SilverStar wrote:
What a dumb post...
1) WCG is a shitty tournament. Nothing really to be aspire to be at.
2) Why list lol and not hon or any other ARTS? Go back to reddit with your drama posts.
3) This has been discussed here in various topics before. 1) That's your opinion though 2) HoN isn't relevant at all since it's been dwindling for a long time already, LoL is relevant 3) This is now official, it was just rumours before, official list was just released 4) Your post looks really smart
HoN isn't dwindling. In fact, it has never been bigger.
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United States22154 Posts
Remake without baiting a LoL vs DotA flamewar.
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EPT
