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Double T
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland25 Posts
June 01 2012 11:23 GMT
#1
I am truly incensed at President's Obama words, that are both outrageous and foul.
During a ceremony he used a term "polish death camps". In reality, it were natzi death camps. I don't believe it was a "mistake". I am sorry, but for years we were reminding this all over the world.

Please, watch whole of this 2:01 long report of the case, and acknowledge the situation:
Report

I don't want to flame. I can't do anything to make US President say sorry himself. All I can do, is tell all of you, that there where NO "polish death camps" during World Wars, there were natzi camps.

I ask you only to bump this thread once u read it, so others can find it as well.

Thank you, TL community!
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
June 01 2012 11:24 GMT
#2
You mean you think the American president purposefully and knowingly tried to piss off the Polish?
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FYRE
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
New Zealand314 Posts
June 01 2012 11:26 GMT
#3
I think what he means is that some of the death camps were IN poland, not that the death camps were made and run by the polish people. On such a sensitive topic, he probably should have made himself more clear, but its extremely unlikely he meant to cause offense by using the phrase.
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
June 01 2012 11:27 GMT
#4
The adjective in this case refers to their location, not the nationality of their creators.
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
June 01 2012 11:29 GMT
#5
It was a mistake as in he was clearly referring to the nazi death camps but used "Polish" to refer to those located in Poland, like Jumpled said. Clearly nothing to be offended about.
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AdrianHealey
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium480 Posts
June 01 2012 11:29 GMT
#6
Nazi's can be Polish, and Polish (wo)men can be Nazi's?
I love.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
June 01 2012 11:29 GMT
#7
Uh...well...okay. I am sorry you are offended, but to think that the President was purposely trying to piss of Poland with his choice of words is, well...a bit silly I would think. He was probably just using it as a modifier based on location, not ownership.
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Ktk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)753 Posts
June 01 2012 11:29 GMT
#8
I think everyone got the actual message stated above, but thanks for the reminder
TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
June 01 2012 11:30 GMT
#9
Its because they were IN POLAND, of course he doesn't mean they were run by the polish. This is a non-issue
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 11:31:05
June 01 2012 11:30 GMT
#10
EDIT: wrong thread.
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Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
June 01 2012 11:30 GMT
#11
I really don't know why you are making a big deal out of that... everyone understood what he meant.
hefty
Profile Joined January 2005
Denmark555 Posts
June 01 2012 11:32 GMT
#12
I am sure people are aware that Germany, not Poland started WWII. And as to the choice of words - there is nothing wrong with what he said. Technically, polish can just mean located in Poland, it doesn't have to mean designed by Poland. So nothing wrong with what he said.
Denia1
Profile Joined January 2011
148 Posts
June 01 2012 11:32 GMT
#13
I guess he could have expressed himself more precisely, especially given that there probably were Soviet death camps in Poland at the time too, so being more specific with adjectives and locations could have helped. Overall though I don't understand why you would assume that he is refering to the nationality rather than the location?
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seodoth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands318 Posts
June 01 2012 11:32 GMT
#14
It was an accident bro -_-
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
June 01 2012 11:32 GMT
#15
There were death camps located in poland, so from that pov the use of polish death camps is kinda correct but as you can see, easily bein misunderstood.

And as everything is being blown up there is an immense uproar... .
The use of words wasnt clever but you cant just interpret the sentence how you want to
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W2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1177 Posts
June 01 2012 11:33 GMT
#16
The video you linked says the white house already apologized. I watched the video and it was definitely just a mistake. He was honoring a Polish survivor with a medal, it makes no sense he is anti-Polish.
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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
June 01 2012 11:33 GMT
#17
Someone call the grammar natzis.
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CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
June 01 2012 11:34 GMT
#18
Well judging by the lack of proper english in that OP, I'm pretty sure you misunderstood something. He was refering to the fact that the camps themselves were actually located in Poland.

My goodness, sticks and stones people. I realize that the internet actually invites everyone to have opinion, no matter how stupid, I just hope that some of you start to think before you actually spout off some nonsense that only serves to make you look bad...
HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
June 01 2012 11:34 GMT
#19
On June 01 2012 20:23 Double T wrote:
I am truly incensed at President's Obama words, that are both outrageous and foul.
During a ceremony he used a term "polish death camps". In reality, it were natzi death camps. I don't believe it was a "mistake". I am sorry, but for years we were reminding this all over the world.

Please, watch whole of this 2:01 long report of the case, and acknowledge the situation:
Report

I don't want to flame. I can't do anything to make US President say sorry himself. All I can do, is tell all of you, that there where NO "polish death camps" during World Wars, there were natzi camps.

I ask you only to bump this thread once u read it, so others can find it as well.

Thank you, TL community!


You realize many (most?) of the nazi concentration camps were in Poland right? They weren't polish camps, but slipping your tounge isn't really that far fetched. Seriously I don't understand this at all. Does anyone actually believe Poland had any camps of their own?
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
June 01 2012 11:34 GMT
#20
On June 01 2012 20:33 blubbdavid wrote:
Someone call the grammar natzis.


That is offensive to the people of grammar yo. You should choose your words carefully.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Caryc
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany330 Posts
June 01 2012 11:35 GMT
#21
thats a joke right? its so obvious ..
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
June 01 2012 11:36 GMT
#22
On June 01 2012 20:34 TheAmazombie wrote:
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On June 01 2012 20:33 blubbdavid wrote:
Someone call the grammar natzis.


That is offensive to the people of grammar yo. You should choose your words carefully.

In his defence he heard Obama say it.
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
June 01 2012 11:37 GMT
#23
On June 01 2012 20:23 Double T wrote:
I am truly incensed at President's Obama words, that are both outrageous and foul.
During a ceremony he used a term "polish death camps". In reality, it were natzi death camps. I don't believe it was a "mistake". I am sorry, but for years we were reminding this all over the world.

Please, watch whole of this 2:01 long report of the case, and acknowledge the situation:
Report

I don't want to flame. I can't do anything to make US President say sorry himself. All I can do, is tell all of you, that there where NO "polish death camps" during World Wars, there were natzi camps.

I ask you only to bump this thread once u read it, so others can find it as well.

Thank you, TL community!


Polish means "situated inside Poland", not just "ordered by the Polish authorities".

And you know as well as I do that there were collaborators. I'm Estonian and there were concentration camps here as well.

Stop getting offended over nothing but word choice. No one is claiming that Poland ran death camps in World War 2. In fact, ask anyone with even the most basic education about what started World War 2, and they'll tell you it was Nazi Germany INVADING POLAND.
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CyDe
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1010 Posts
June 01 2012 11:37 GMT
#24
It's simply a misunderstanding, on your part, no need to get offended. I mean, it's not him who is being rude, really. They are commonly referred to like that, and it is commonly acknowledged that he means location, and that clearly they were Nazi camps.

What else is there to discuss?
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
June 01 2012 11:37 GMT
#25
Holy fuck.
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
June 01 2012 16:14 GMT
#26
he apologized btw
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