WTF are people hating on? - Page 8

On May 24 2012 16:29 r4pture wrote:
While I don't "hate" Day[9], I find him kind of fake. "Day[9]" is a completely persona different from Sean Plott, which I remember him actually stating in a Daily (when asked about if he would be put off by an interested female fan for a relationship, he said yes, stating Day[9] and Sean Plott are different people and she would only know the Day[9] persona).

I haven't watched the daily in some time because of this (except for maybe a Funday once in awhile) and would rather watch other streams (Destiny for example) of people being themselves, even if others don't like it. Day[9] very much made a character, almost Stephen Colbert-esq in a reimagining of himself. It doesn't feel natural to me so it just doesn't interest me.

The statements coming from 2GD, Richard and IdrA (whom, keep in mind, I'm no fan of) kind of add to that for me. I hardly think he needs to be lynched for it, but he needs to be re-examined perhaps. Day[9] is not the great superman savior of eSports who a lot of people think he is. Hes done a lot and put up some good stuff, but the sheer amount of praise and worship he gets is absolutely ridiculous.

Then again, I'm in the mindset that no one in eSports is a messiah, very few people do it "for eSports", they do it for their paycheck, which is fine, but masking it as doing some kind of greater good is dishonest and people I think are starting to get wind of that.

On May 24 2012 16:17 Xeris wrote:
This whole thread is stupid. Even if Day9 has been rude to a guy before (whether that story is true or untrue), who hasn't? It happens sometimes. Especially during a LAN event where you're working A LOT (Dreamhack notoriously over-works the casters) and are absolutely exhausted at the end of the day, maybe you let something slip and do something you might regret later. Everyone does stupid things, and celebrities are no exception. Either way, that incident is: a) not a big deal, everyone's been in the situation before, b) unfortunate that it's even come this far (trust me I know).

I also think it's silly that people talk about his persona being fake. It actually isn't at all. I've known Sean since 2005, we used to car-pool to SoCal LAN events together, I was his manager on the USA national team in BW, and I'd have to call him every weekend to make sure he showed up to matches because he always overslept. He's always been the same. What you see when he's on camera isn't a persona, it's just how he is. He loves Starcraft. He literally can't stop talking about it. I remember when I was practicing for WGF 2008 and I wanted advice on build orders I called Sean and we talked for a longass time about a specific PvZ build on Requiem (you can read about it here, from one of his first ever podcasts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=99950). He'll talk about Starcraft with anyone. He used to have OSL/MSL viewing parties at his apartment when he went to USC, he played for the USC CSL team in Season 1, he coached their CSL team in Season 2.

He's casted for CSL every season and he does it because he's a good guy. I can name other casters who are less famous than him who when I approached them about CSL the first thing they asked was "what's the pay." I've literally never heard that question come out of Sean's mouth. Whether it's casting for a community endeavor like the CSL or a big league like the NASL, the first thing he says is "omg awesome, more SC casting... I hope it fits into my schedule." That's what separates him from other people and it's why he's an amazing person and how he's been able to be so successful. He doesn't let things like money drive him, he lets his passion drive him. The money comes as a byproduct.

And I'm sure he makes money from SC - this is his full time job. He has employees and staff that help him plan events, do bookings, and help promote esports. He pays these people out of his pocket with money that he earns. He also has to live, too.

I literally can't say enough about how amazing Sean is as a person, friend, and anchor/spokesperson of our community. People need to back off and realize that everyone has their bad days, and it's really hard to put on a daily show the way he does. So ya, he's not fake at all.. he's just genuinely addicted to this game, he lives and breathes it! :D

He's also really funny, which helps a lot :D

On May 24 2012 16:46 EZBreeZ wrote:
Day9 seems to try too hard to be someone else in my opinion. I feel like he tries to bottle up his personality and plays a front of a super happy teletubbie. Am I the only one that thinks this?

On May 24 2012 16:17 Xeris wrote:
This whole thread is stupid. Even if Day9 has been rude to a guy before (whether that story is true or untrue), who hasn't? It happens sometimes. Especially during a LAN event where you're working A LOT (Dreamhack notoriously over-works the casters) and are absolutely exhausted at the end of the day, maybe you let something slip and do something you might regret later. Everyone does stupid things, and celebrities are no exception. Either way, that incident is: a) not a big deal, everyone's been in the situation before, b) unfortunate that it's even come this far (trust me I know).

I also think it's silly that people talk about his persona being fake. It actually isn't at all. I've known Sean since 2005, we used to car-pool to SoCal LAN events together, I was his manager on the USA national team in BW, and I'd have to call him every weekend to make sure he showed up to matches because he always overslept. He's always been the same. What you see when he's on camera isn't a persona, it's just how he is. He loves Starcraft. He literally can't stop talking about it. I remember when I was practicing for WGF 2008 and I wanted advice on build orders I called Sean and we talked for a longass time about a specific PvZ build on Requiem (you can read about it here, from one of his first ever podcasts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=99950). He'll talk about Starcraft with anyone. He used to have OSL/MSL viewing parties at his apartment when he went to USC, he played for the USC CSL team in Season 1, he coached their CSL team in Season 2.

He's casted for CSL every season and he does it because he's a good guy. I can name other casters who are less famous than him who when I approached them about CSL the first thing they asked was "what's the pay." I've literally never heard that question come out of Sean's mouth. Whether it's casting for a community endeavor like the CSL or a big league like the NASL, the first thing he says is "omg awesome, more SC casting... I hope it fits into my schedule." That's what separates him from other people and it's why he's an amazing person and how he's been able to be so successful. He doesn't let things like money drive him, he lets his passion drive him. The money comes as a byproduct.

And I'm sure he makes money from SC - this is his full time job. He has employees and staff that help him plan events, do bookings, and help promote esports. He pays these people out of his pocket with money that he earns. He also has to live, too.

I literally can't say enough about how amazing Sean is as a person, friend, and anchor/spokesperson of our community. People need to back off and realize that everyone has their bad days, and it's really hard to put on a daily show the way he does. So ya, he's not fake at all.. he's just genuinely addicted to this game, he lives and breathes it! :D

He's also really funny, which helps a lot :D

On May 24 2012 16:18 Primadog wrote:


The last witchhunt that nearly got Quantic's sponsors pulled was primarily led by TL posters, not r/sc. At this point, we don't have high ground to stand on.

On May 24 2012 16:17 Xeris wrote:
This whole thread is stupid. Even if Day9 has been rude to a guy before (whether that story is true or untrue), who hasn't? It happens sometimes. Especially during a LAN event where you're working A LOT (Dreamhack notoriously over-works the casters) and are absolutely exhausted at the end of the day, maybe you let something slip and do something you might regret later. Everyone does stupid things, and celebrities are no exception. Either way, that incident is: a) not a big deal, everyone's been in the situation before, b) unfortunate that it's even come this far (trust me I know).

I also think it's silly that people talk about his persona being fake. It actually isn't at all. I've known Sean since 2005, we used to car-pool to SoCal LAN events together, I was his manager on the USA national team in BW, and I'd have to call him every weekend to make sure he showed up to matches because he always overslept. He's always been the same. What you see when he's on camera isn't a persona, it's just how he is. He loves Starcraft. He literally can't stop talking about it. I remember when I was practicing for WGF 2008 and I wanted advice on build orders I called Sean and we talked for a longass time about a specific PvZ build on Requiem (you can read about it here, from one of his first ever podcasts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=99950). He'll talk about Starcraft with anyone. He used to have OSL/MSL viewing parties at his apartment when he went to USC, he played for the USC CSL team in Season 1, he coached their CSL team in Season 2.

He's casted for CSL every season and he does it because he's a good guy. I can name other casters who are less famous than him who when I approached them about CSL the first thing they asked was "what's the pay." I've literally never heard that question come out of Sean's mouth. Whether it's casting for a community endeavor like the CSL or a big league like the NASL, the first thing he says is "omg awesome, more SC casting... I hope it fits into my schedule." That's what separates him from other people and it's why he's an amazing person and how he's been able to be so successful. He doesn't let things like money drive him, he lets his passion drive him. The money comes as a byproduct.

And I'm sure he makes money from SC - this is his full time job. He has employees and staff that help him plan events, do bookings, and help promote esports. He pays these people out of his pocket with money that he earns. He also has to live, too.

I literally can't say enough about how amazing Sean is as a person, friend, and anchor/spokesperson of our community. People need to back off and realize that everyone has their bad days, and it's really hard to put on a daily show the way he does. So ya, he's not fake at all.. he's just genuinely addicted to this game, he lives and breathes it! :D

He's also really funny, which helps a lot :D

On May 24 2012 16:49 Jinsho wrote:
If there are several reports about him being an ass at live events, and there are tons of people thinking his show is more about himself than SC2, then maybe there is some truth to it. But no, let's all get up on our high horse and shout loud and clear from all the rooftops: Day9 saved esports, so he may not be criticised.

On May 24 2012 16:52 dronefarm wrote:


The whole money thing is stupid, because obviously that has no bearing on anything. I think if it's legitimately true that he is pretty rude to staff/production/whatever (as talked about in the article linked on the first page), then it's probably a good thing that it's brought out and he fixes it; not in an esports sense, but as a person. I know I'd be pretty upset if I was some no-name guy working at an esports event and someone was really rude to me but I couldn't say anything about it because it would be career suicide.

On May 24 2012 16:52 dronefarm wrote:


The whole money thing is stupid, because obviously that has no bearing on anything. I think if it's legitimately true that he is pretty rude to staff/production/whatever (as talked about in the article linked on the first page), then it's probably a good thing that it's brought out and he fixes it; not in an esports sense, but as a person. I know I'd be pretty upset if I was some no-name guy working at an esports event and someone was really rude to me but I couldn't say anything about it because it would be career suicide.

On May 24 2012 16:50 zefreak wrote:


Are you new to the community? Do you even know who Day9 is, or was in BW? He acted the same in 2005 as he does in 2012.

He acts different, but he has always acted that way even before he was making money or was a community figure. Much of the hate is from people who only know him from the daily, and assume his positivity etc is an act.

On May 24 2012 16:54 RockIronrod wrote:

People who know him and have met him are saying he's an okay dude.
Your backup is IdrA.