On May 24 2012 18:40 parduebob11 wrote: I don`t personally know why this dude day9 is so popular.I tried watching a couple of his shows and he appeared without any doubt the most boring/politcally correct/uninterresting caster out of them all.Seriously is hard to find someone more boring than Day9 in the gaming community.Incontrol would stand a good chance but due to the controversies with Idra,CombatEx and other simmilar stuff+his girlfriend he has become more interesting.Honestly,Day9 does not have any clue of the game,he doesn`t do anything interesting,and he is simply boring.Watching him is like watching a corporatist speaking about a subject he has no connection to.I would rather watch a Orb/Destiny/Incontrol/Grubby cast rather than Day9.Even MC with his bad English is more entertaining than Day9. About the his behind the scenes behavior,I have heard many rumors of semi-progamers or casters who think they`re Justin Bieber and when somebody ask for an autograph they go on primadonna stance.The main question here is why would anyone want to talk to Day9.he is boring as hell,fake beyond recognition,and he gives automatic politically correct answers.I have seen some tournaments casted by Day9(including the recent one when he was in the parking lot).he seems totally out of place,not collaborating with his co caster and overall a very boring guy.I`ve seen some of his Daylis have like 10k viewers but the real question here is:does anyone actually watch them or they just leaving the stream open for the purpose of helping him because honestly they are boring as hell. day9 is basicly the embodiment of extreme corporatism brought into the gaming community which once was a liberal,free for all,hipster type of thing.unfortunatelly due to some 20 or 30 viewers who think they represent the community when in fact they are just a small minority people like Destiny/Orb get sidelined while boring corporatist Day9 set the trend for the next generation of succesfull casters.even the koreans are not that strict or politically correct.The model is successfull applied by gretorp,Rotterdam,Khaldor,CatzPijamas,Appolo etc.No wonder Lol is taking over.I for one have a hard time falling asleep when one of these politically corect casters start talking.Even the classic Tastosis duo has more life and entertainment in them than the present day casters.
Oh god reddit is overflowing again.
You probably are one of those who email the sponsors when Destiny and Orb say something bad on stream.Poor you.i feel sorry for you.People like you are the death of sc2 as the number one esport.
On May 24 2012 18:36 zatic wrote: Just care about the game and stay on TL, and this will almost never be an issue. Usually the first time I hear about drama like this is with threads like this one.
we can hide spoilers on the mainpage, now we need a "hide drama" box <.<
FWIW, most of this stuff doesn't spill over to TL. I think this particular drama is actually already off the r/starcraft frontpage. It's not really clear why this needed a thread here.
On May 24 2012 17:36 R3DT1D3 wrote: Even so, being good enough to make what would likely be Masters in the current ladder with all three races is nothing to sneeze at.
Where is the proof that he is masters? in fact where is the proof that he plays any sc2 at all?
Thats one of the big reasons people think he is a fake. No one has seen him playing the game he claims to love and makes loads of money off of.
Usually dont respond to threads like this one, and I havnt read everything so this might aswell been said in many different ways already; but people who harp on Day9 because he asks for donations are fucking... stupid. Seriously fucking DUMB imho.
Obviously I can't see every little thing that goes on behind the scenes when it comes to his finances, but he was never really ASKING for donations, and merely put that out there for people that actually WANTED to provide him with support to do it and get a little something out of it. Regardless of how much he actually makes out of this, and how little he needs it, it still gives the people that feel that they want to show appreciation for his product a way to do that and it's COMPLETELY out of free will.
Cynical morons will always downplay anything anyone does that in the end could be of personal interest, but they dont fucking understand one simple fact: You can't put out good products unless you belive in them and feel good about them. That means that you need to be focusing on yourself and give yourself what you need to be able to produce (whatever the fuck it is, in every line of work) - those people will create the best content or do the best work because they are enjoying what they're doing. The people who take part, or use that content should be fucking thrilled that the person feels good about it, because else it would just disappear. Talking in general here, so that'd go for anyone really...
Regarding his persona, and whatever claim that he's phoney I dont care much for and take with a grain of salt. People who are extremly public will always falter at times and Day9 is without fail the biggest personality in the industry, so it's only natural.
Reading the article linked by Plexa makes me smile. It's funny how butthurt someone can be, lol.
On May 24 2012 17:36 R3DT1D3 wrote: Even so, being good enough to make what would likely be Masters in the current ladder with all three races is nothing to sneeze at.
Where is the proof that he is masters? in fact where is the proof that he plays any sc2 at all?
Thats one of the big reasons people think he is a fake. No one has seen him playing the game he claims to love and makes loads of money off of.
Because he gets master level knowledge by asking his chat right?
On May 24 2012 18:40 parduebob11 wrote: I don`t personally know why this dude day9 is so popular.I tried watching a couple of his shows and he appeared without any doubt the most boring/politcally correct/uninterresting caster out of them all.Seriously is hard to find someone more boring than Day9 in the gaming community.Incontrol would stand a good chance but due to the controversies with Idra,CombatEx and other simmilar stuff+his girlfriend he has become more interesting.Honestly,Day9 does not have any clue of the game,he doesn`t do anything interesting,and he is simply boring.Watching him is like watching a corporatist speaking about a subject he has no connection to.I would rather watch a Orb/Destiny/Incontrol/Grubby cast rather than Day9.Even MC with his bad English is more entertaining than Day9. About the his behind the scenes behavior,I have heard many rumors of semi-progamers or casters who think they`re Justin Bieber and when somebody ask for an autograph they go on primadonna stance.The main question here is why would anyone want to talk to Day9.he is boring as hell,fake beyond recognition,and he gives automatic politically correct answers.I have seen some tournaments casted by Day9(including the recent one when he was in the parking lot).he seems totally out of place,not collaborating with his co caster and overall a very boring guy.I`ve seen some of his Daylis have like 10k viewers but the real question here is:does anyone actually watch them or they just leaving the stream open for the purpose of helping him because honestly they are boring as hell. day9 is basicly the embodiment of extreme corporatism brought into the gaming community which once was a liberal,free for all,hipster type of thing.unfortunatelly due to some 20 or 30 viewers who think they represent the community when in fact they are just a small minority people like Destiny/Orb get sidelined while boring corporatist Day9 set the trend for the next generation of succesfull casters.even the koreans are not that strict or politically correct.The model is successfull applied by gretorp,Rotterdam,Khaldor,CatzPijamas,Appolo etc.No wonder Lol is taking over.I for one have a hard time falling asleep when one of these politically corect casters start talking.Even the classic Tastosis duo has more life and entertainment in them than the present day casters.
Oh god reddit is overflowing again.
You probably are one of those who email the sponsors when Destiny and Orb say something bad on stream.Poor you.i feel sorry for you.People like you are the death of sc2 as the number one esport.
On May 24 2012 18:40 parduebob11 wrote: I don`t personally know why this dude day9 is so popular.I tried watching a couple of his shows and he appeared without any doubt the most boring/politcally correct/uninterresting caster out of them all.Seriously is hard to find someone more boring than Day9 in the gaming community.Incontrol would stand a good chance but due to the controversies with Idra,CombatEx and other simmilar stuff+his girlfriend he has become more interesting.Honestly,Day9 does not have any clue of the game,he doesn`t do anything interesting,and he is simply boring.Watching him is like watching a corporatist speaking about a subject he has no connection to.I would rather watch a Orb/Destiny/Incontrol/Grubby cast rather than Day9.Even MC with his bad English is more entertaining than Day9. About the his behind the scenes behavior,I have heard many rumors of semi-progamers or casters who think they`re Justin Bieber and when somebody ask for an autograph they go on primadonna stance.The main question here is why would anyone want to talk to Day9.he is boring as hell,fake beyond recognition,and he gives automatic politically correct answers.I have seen some tournaments casted by Day9(including the recent one when he was in the parking lot).he seems totally out of place,not collaborating with his co caster and overall a very boring guy.I`ve seen some of his Daylis have like 10k viewers but the real question here is:does anyone actually watch them or they just leaving the stream open for the purpose of helping him because honestly they are boring as hell. day9 is basicly the embodiment of extreme corporatism brought into the gaming community which once was a liberal,free for all,hipster type of thing.unfortunatelly due to some 20 or 30 viewers who think they represent the community when in fact they are just a small minority people like Destiny/Orb get sidelined while boring corporatist Day9 set the trend for the next generation of succesfull casters.even the koreans are not that strict or politically correct.The model is successfull applied by gretorp,Rotterdam,Khaldor,CatzPijamas,Appolo etc.No more life and entertainment in them than the present day casters.
You think hes boring, fine. But keep all this corporatist/hipster crap away plz, lol. Day9 was in starcraft long before it was "mainstream"
Day9 could have made much more money doing something else, if he really cared about only money. Instead he chose his passion as a means to make some money to live off.
Working those 100 hr weeks, I seriously doubt he even has much time to read these ridiculous posts.
Ye, he asks for donations because he provides a free stream & entertainment. No one is forcing you to watch the dailies or pay 5 dollars for subscriptions. For people saying he is oh so politically correct, watch his Amnesia series on youtube and tell me that he is oh do politically correct, or maybe it's just a guy who loves games and loves streaming them? Does it mean he is a little vain, mm prolly :D But hey, throwing stones in a glass house...
Day9 Plays Amnesia, abridged version: NONO seriously watch this!! You won't regret!
I believe Day9 is a persona, a facade. Is that fake? Well, everyone has to have a certain type of facade to be in this world and to have certain jobs or images. He entertains and analyses so of course what he is like on the dailies is nothing like he is in real life. How do I know this? Common sense...Try making a commentary on youtube on a game (I have tried this) and you'll see that a different side of you comes out (if you're any good that is, unless you're a "natural"hehe).
I hope Day9, makes even more money than he does now and for all the shittalkers and naysayers, well...Here's a smiley for you: :-) and a youtube video (yay!)
On May 24 2012 18:47 Kyuki wrote: People who are extremly public will always falter at times and Day9 is without fail the biggest personality in the industry, so it's only natural.
Dude what planet are you living on?day9 the biggest personality in the industry?What industry?he is a successfull caster,I give him that but there are tons of personalitites that keep sc2 alive for fans.MKP,Violet,Idra,naniwa,Incontrol,MC,MMA,Nestea and virtually every single progamer out there is more known than day9.When I watch a tournament I watch it because I want to see MKP vs DRG or Squirtle or MVp not some caster.
On May 24 2012 18:40 parduebob11 wrote: I don`t personally know why this dude day9 is so popular.I tried watching a couple of his shows and he appeared without any doubt the most boring/politcally correct/uninterresting caster out of them all.Seriously is hard to find someone more boring than Day9 in the gaming community.Incontrol would stand a good chance but due to the controversies with Idra,CombatEx and other simmilar stuff+his girlfriend he has become more interesting.Honestly,Day9 does not have any clue of the game,he doesn`t do anything interesting,and he is simply boring.Watching him is like watching a corporatist speaking about a subject he has no connection to.I would rather watch a Orb/Destiny/Incontrol/Grubby cast rather than Day9.Even MC with his bad English is more entertaining than Day9. About the his behind the scenes behavior,I have heard many rumors of semi-progamers or casters who think they`re Justin Bieber and when somebody ask for an autograph they go on primadonna stance.The main question here is why would anyone want to talk to Day9.he is boring as hell,fake beyond recognition,and he gives automatic politically correct answers.I have seen some tournaments casted by Day9(including the recent one when he was in the parking lot).he seems totally out of place,not collaborating with his co caster and overall a very boring guy.I`ve seen some of his Daylis have like 10k viewers but the real question here is:does anyone actually watch them or they just leaving the stream open for the purpose of helping him because honestly they are boring as hell. day9 is basicly the embodiment of extreme corporatism brought into the gaming community which once was a liberal,free for all,hipster type of thing.unfortunatelly due to some 20 or 30 viewers who think they represent the community when in fact they are just a small minority people like Destiny/Orb get sidelined while boring corporatist Day9 set the trend for the next generation of succesfull casters.even the koreans are not that strict or politically correct.The model is successfull applied by gretorp,Rotterdam,Khaldor,CatzPijamas,Appolo etc.No wonder Lol is taking over.I for one have a hard time falling asleep when one of these politically corect casters start talking.Even the classic Tastosis duo has more life and entertainment in them than the present day casters.
Oh god reddit is overflowing again.
You probably are one of those who email the sponsors when Destiny and Orb say something bad on stream.Poor you.i feel sorry for you.People like you are the death of sc2 as the number one esport.
Actually I take the time to purchase AND email companies that support esports while building my current PC. I don't give a damn about orb and Destiny's actions, I find neither situation contentious, both were simply bad moves for people in their positions.
The post you just spewed is the exact flavour of excrement I hate seeing: unsubstantiated personal attacks on people doing unequivocal good in the community. You are acting as the fuel that burns the bullshit drama wildfire.
Now personally, I don't watch day9. I don't go out of my way to see his casts these days. But Daily #100 and Day9s earlier sc2 dailies were a major reason why I got into the game/scene and this is something which I'm sure many people coming from a non-BW background can attest to.
If you don't like the dude, then just say you don't like him. Why must you go about a full character assassination on little to no evidence?
On May 24 2012 18:40 parduebob11 wrote: I don`t personally know why this dude day9 is so popular.I tried watching a couple of his shows and he appeared without any doubt the most boring/politcally correct/uninterresting caster out of them all.Seriously is hard to find someone more boring than Day9 in the gaming community.Incontrol would stand a good chance but due to the controversies with Idra,CombatEx and other simmilar stuff+his girlfriend he has become more interesting.Honestly,Day9 does not have any clue of the game,he doesn`t do anything interesting,and he is simply boring.Watching him is like watching a corporatist speaking about a subject he has no connection to.I would rather watch a Orb/Destiny/Incontrol/Grubby cast rather than Day9.Even MC with his bad English is more entertaining than Day9. About the his behind the scenes behavior,I have heard many rumors of semi-progamers or casters who think they`re Justin Bieber and when somebody ask for an autograph they go on primadonna stance.The main question here is why would anyone want to talk to Day9.he is boring as hell,fake beyond recognition,and he gives automatic politically correct answers.I have seen some tournaments casted by Day9(including the recent one when he was in the parking lot).he seems totally out of place,not collaborating with his co caster and overall a very boring guy.I`ve seen some of his Daylis have like 10k viewers but the real question here is:does anyone actually watch them or they just leaving the stream open for the purpose of helping him because honestly they are boring as hell. day9 is basicly the embodiment of extreme corporatism brought into the gaming community which once was a liberal,free for all,hipster type of thing.unfortunatelly due to some 20 or 30 viewers who think they represent the community when in fact they are just a small minority people like Destiny/Orb get sidelined while boring corporatist Day9 set the trend for the next generation of succesfull casters.even the koreans are not that strict or politically correct.The model is successfull applied by gretorp,Rotterdam,Khaldor,CatzPijamas,Appolo etc.No wonder Lol is taking over.I for one have a hard time falling asleep when one of these politically corect casters start talking.Even the classic Tastosis duo has more life and entertainment in them than the present day casters.
Oh god reddit is overflowing again.
You probably are one of those who email the sponsors when Destiny and Orb say something bad on stream.Poor you.i feel sorry for you.People like you are the death of sc2 as the number one esport.
Actually I take the time to purchase AND email companies that support esports while building my current PC. I don't give a damn about orb and Destiny's actions, I find neither situation contentious, both were simply bad moves for people in their positions.
The post you just spewed is the exact flavour of excrement I hate seeing: unsubstantiated personal attacks on people doing unequivocal good in the community. You are acting as the fuel that burns the bullshit drama wildfire.
Now personally, I don't watch day9. I don't go out of my way to see his casts these days. But Daily #100 and Day9s earlier sc2 dailies were a major reason why I got into the game/scene and this is something which I'm sure many people coming from a non-BW background can attest to.
If you don't like the dude, then just say you don't like him. Why must you go about a full character assassination on little to no evidence?
Glad the information is coming out - no opinion on the matter yet. I think since this is Day9 related, the witch-hunt/conspiracy/mob mentality thing won't pop up (yet) - which actually proves the OP's point on how Day9 is too big of a figure in the community.
I just wish the OP was more well written. Seriously. it looks like the Riddler did some editing on it, nothing but question marks all over the place.
... Really TL? I generally lurk on TL, but the amount of pseudo personality identifying bullshit from many of the posters, your asking him to stop taking donations? Donations? and then what? push himself off of the scene? end the Day[9] Daily? Kill himself? You're the idiots who are going to kill the SC2 scene...
If he made his Video's pay per view then i might understand, but can't a man have some privacy? He genuinely seems like a nice guy from what people are saying, I've never met him, i would like to some day though, And he spends an hour a day to give back to the community. Every time one of you angry posters posts on this thread, I remember why i don't go to reddit anymore...
On May 24 2012 17:36 R3DT1D3 wrote: Even so, being good enough to make what would likely be Masters in the current ladder with all three races is nothing to sneeze at.
Where is the proof that he is masters? in fact where is the proof that he plays any sc2 at all?
Thats one of the big reasons people think he is a fake. No one has seen him playing the game he claims to love and makes loads of money off of.
Maybe he gave his heart and soul playing BW for as many years as he did and just wants to transition into the caster/personality role. He's nearly 26, I think finding ways to make a few bucks is by no means an unreasonable aim.
On May 24 2012 18:40 parduebob11 wrote: I don`t personally know why this dude day9 is so popular.I tried watching a couple of his shows and he appeared without any doubt the most boring/politcally correct/uninterresting caster out of them all.Seriously is hard to find someone more boring than Day9 in the gaming community.Incontrol would stand a good chance but due to the controversies with Idra,CombatEx and other simmilar stuff+his girlfriend he has become more interesting.Honestly,Day9 does not have any clue of the game,he doesn`t do anything interesting,and he is simply boring.Watching him is like watching a corporatist speaking about a subject he has no connection to.I would rather watch a Orb/Destiny/Incontrol/Grubby cast rather than Day9.Even MC with his bad English is more entertaining than Day9. About the his behind the scenes behavior,I have heard many rumors of semi-progamers or casters who think they`re Justin Bieber and when somebody ask for an autograph they go on primadonna stance.The main question here is why would anyone want to talk to Day9.he is boring as hell,fake beyond recognition,and he gives automatic politically correct answers.I have seen some tournaments casted by Day9(including the recent one when he was in the parking lot).he seems totally out of place,not collaborating with his co caster and overall a very boring guy.I`ve seen some of his Daylis have like 10k viewers but the real question here is:does anyone actually watch them or they just leaving the stream open for the purpose of helping him because honestly they are boring as hell. day9 is basicly the embodiment of extreme corporatism brought into the gaming community which once was a liberal,free for all,hipster type of thing.unfortunatelly due to some 20 or 30 viewers who think they represent the community when in fact they are just a small minority people like Destiny/Orb get sidelined while boring corporatist Day9 set the trend for the next generation of succesfull casters.even the koreans are not that strict or politically correct.The model is successfull applied by gretorp,Rotterdam,Khaldor,CatzPijamas,Appolo etc.No wonder Lol is taking over.I for one have a hard time falling asleep when one of these politically corect casters start talking.Even the classic Tastosis duo has more life and entertainment in them than the present day casters.
Oh god reddit is overflowing again.
You probably are one of those who email the sponsors when Destiny and Orb say something bad on stream.Poor you.i feel sorry for you.People like you are the death of sc2 as the number one esport.
Actually I take the time to purchase AND email companies that support esports while building my current PC.
They don't support esports, they buy advertising space for themselves.
Only people who basically don't understand the core of the work that Day[9] does are throwing mud on him. Idra is an exception, but Idra often throws mud on all kinds of people.
Seriously, 2GD (as much as I like the guy) or that esports journalist who got the hand, are so far from appreciating the depth of strategy analysis, and methodology for strategy development, which Day[9] has provided for the community (for free!) over the years. They probably don't even realize how much Day[9]'s work has pushed the competitive level of foreign RTS as a whole. Simply because he helped a ton of people (for free! again) to actually start playing RTS efficiently and think productively and actually make progress - thus pushing the level of everybody up and up.
On May 24 2012 19:01 figq wrote: Only people who basically don't understand the core of the work that Day[9] does are throwing mud on him. Idra is an exception, but Idra often throws mud on all kinds of people.
Seriously, 2GD (as much as I like the guy) or that esports journalist who got the hand, are so far from appreciating the depth of strategy analysis, and methodology for strategy development, which Day[9] has provided for the community (for free!) over the years. They probably don't even realize how much Day[9]'s work has pushed the competitive level of foreign RTS as a whole, simply because he helped a ton of people (for free! again) to actually start playing RTS efficiently and think productively and actually make progress - thus pushing the level of everybody up and up.
Yeah, you're probably right, 2GD doesn't realize shit about esports, who is he again?Last time i checked analyzing RTS games didn't make you into a diva.
Can people stop questioning Day9's passion/sense of caring for SC2 and the scene? The guy has literally put out days upon days worth of great content. So many people owe their immersion into "competitive" sc2 to Day9 and his videos, I know I do as well as many of my friends. Like almost all the other big names in SC2 right now, he put in tons of hours (Day9 maybe moreso than anyone else) of his own time, while going to school to put out educational content for no salary or guaranteed pay. Please use your brains, and get off this man's back.
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