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Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
May 24 2012 10:04 GMT
#321
I dislike Day9 for two reasons: he is too longwinded, and he is too G rated.

His making money has NOTHING to do with it.
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 10:07:18
May 24 2012 10:04 GMT
#322
I love Day9.

How he is offscreen? I don't know - and I don't care. It's not anything I experience and everything I've seen has been good. The only caster I prefer over Day9 is Artosis (personal preferences, I guess).

No hate, however - I think people have every right to dislike him. Especially if they've met him. But there's no reason to strut around spreading hate

Edit: His personal finances shouldn't matter to us... at all...
The only thing I dislike is the difference between him analysing games and him going play-by-play style. While he is play-by-play he has a very unique way of talking. When he says "...and X-player holds..." or "...and X-player stabilizes..." is somewhat annoying. Again... Personal preferences - and as mentioned. He's still one of my favourite casters
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
May 24 2012 10:05 GMT
#323
On May 24 2012 18:59 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 18:53 Dali. wrote:
On May 24 2012 18:45 parduebob11 wrote:
On May 24 2012 18:42 Dali. wrote:
On May 24 2012 18:40 parduebob11 wrote:
I don`t personally know why this dude day9 is so popular.I tried watching a couple of his shows and he appeared without any doubt the most boring/politcally correct/uninterresting caster out of them all.Seriously is hard to find someone more boring than Day9 in the gaming community.Incontrol would stand a good chance but due to the controversies with Idra,CombatEx and other simmilar stuff+his girlfriend he has become more interesting.Honestly,Day9 does not have any clue of the game,he doesn`t do anything interesting,and he is simply boring.Watching him is like watching a corporatist speaking about a subject he has no connection to.I would rather watch a Orb/Destiny/Incontrol/Grubby cast rather than Day9.Even MC with his bad English is more entertaining than Day9.
About the his behind the scenes behavior,I have heard many rumors of semi-progamers or casters who think they`re Justin Bieber and when somebody ask for an autograph they go on primadonna stance.The main question here is why would anyone want to talk to Day9.he is boring as hell,fake beyond recognition,and he gives automatic politically correct answers.I have seen some tournaments casted by Day9(including the recent one when he was in the parking lot).he seems totally out of place,not collaborating with his co caster and overall a very boring guy.I`ve seen some of his Daylis have like 10k viewers but the real question here is:does anyone actually watch them or they just leaving the stream open for the purpose of helping him because honestly they are boring as hell.
day9 is basicly the embodiment of extreme corporatism brought into the gaming community which once was a liberal,free for all,hipster type of thing.unfortunatelly due to some 20 or 30 viewers who think they represent the community when in fact they are just a small minority people like Destiny/Orb get sidelined while boring corporatist Day9 set the trend for the next generation of succesfull casters.even the koreans are not that strict or politically correct.The model is successfull applied by gretorp,Rotterdam,Khaldor,CatzPijamas,Appolo etc.No wonder Lol is taking over.I for one have a hard time falling asleep when one of these politically corect casters start talking.Even the classic Tastosis duo has more life and entertainment in them than the present day casters.


Oh god reddit is overflowing again.


You probably are one of those who email the sponsors when Destiny and Orb say something bad on stream.Poor you.i feel sorry for you.People like you are the death of sc2 as the number one esport.


Actually I take the time to purchase AND email companies that support esports while building my current PC.


They don't support esports, they buy advertising space for themselves.

Looks like it's working out well for them too.


News flash! Sponsorship is not a zero-sum game!

How are people this stupid, honestly.
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
Dali.
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand689 Posts
May 24 2012 10:05 GMT
#324
On May 24 2012 18:59 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 18:53 Dali. wrote:
On May 24 2012 18:45 parduebob11 wrote:
On May 24 2012 18:42 Dali. wrote:
On May 24 2012 18:40 parduebob11 wrote:
I don`t personally know why this dude day9 is so popular.I tried watching a couple of his shows and he appeared without any doubt the most boring/politcally correct/uninterresting caster out of them all.Seriously is hard to find someone more boring than Day9 in the gaming community.Incontrol would stand a good chance but due to the controversies with Idra,CombatEx and other simmilar stuff+his girlfriend he has become more interesting.Honestly,Day9 does not have any clue of the game,he doesn`t do anything interesting,and he is simply boring.Watching him is like watching a corporatist speaking about a subject he has no connection to.I would rather watch a Orb/Destiny/Incontrol/Grubby cast rather than Day9.Even MC with his bad English is more entertaining than Day9.
About the his behind the scenes behavior,I have heard many rumors of semi-progamers or casters who think they`re Justin Bieber and when somebody ask for an autograph they go on primadonna stance.The main question here is why would anyone want to talk to Day9.he is boring as hell,fake beyond recognition,and he gives automatic politically correct answers.I have seen some tournaments casted by Day9(including the recent one when he was in the parking lot).he seems totally out of place,not collaborating with his co caster and overall a very boring guy.I`ve seen some of his Daylis have like 10k viewers but the real question here is:does anyone actually watch them or they just leaving the stream open for the purpose of helping him because honestly they are boring as hell.
day9 is basicly the embodiment of extreme corporatism brought into the gaming community which once was a liberal,free for all,hipster type of thing.unfortunatelly due to some 20 or 30 viewers who think they represent the community when in fact they are just a small minority people like Destiny/Orb get sidelined while boring corporatist Day9 set the trend for the next generation of succesfull casters.even the koreans are not that strict or politically correct.The model is successfull applied by gretorp,Rotterdam,Khaldor,CatzPijamas,Appolo etc.No wonder Lol is taking over.I for one have a hard time falling asleep when one of these politically corect casters start talking.Even the classic Tastosis duo has more life and entertainment in them than the present day casters.


Oh god reddit is overflowing again.


You probably are one of those who email the sponsors when Destiny and Orb say something bad on stream.Poor you.i feel sorry for you.People like you are the death of sc2 as the number one esport.


Actually I take the time to purchase AND email companies that support esports while building my current PC.


They don't support esports, they buy advertising space for themselves.

Looks like it's working out well for them too.


You've gotta be kidding me.

That's the god damn trade off. Unless you've know some people who're gonna finance the scene out of charity then this is the way it'll be. Maybe for every $100 we give to these companies they'll slot 10 cents into an esports endeavor. Not only do I get a product that I would have purchased regardless, I get the satisfaction that maybe, just maybe, I'm aiding something I support and enjoy on a daily basis.

I don't have a fucking clue how to make a processor, but if I can buy one that helps starcraft, well, I dig that.
Kamwah
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom724 Posts
May 24 2012 10:05 GMT
#325
If you don't like him then don't watch him.

If you do then good for you.

People who make these kinds of threads and start this shit need to be /banned
Learn to count with CatsPajamas!
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
May 24 2012 10:06 GMT
#326
On May 24 2012 18:52 parduebob11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 18:47 Kyuki wrote:
People who are extremly public will always falter at times and Day9 is without fail the biggest personality in the industry, so it's only natural.


Dude what planet are you living on?day9 the biggest personality in the industry?What industry?he is a successfull caster,I give him that but there are tons of personalitites that keep sc2 alive for fans.MKP,Violet,Idra,naniwa,Incontrol,MC,MMA,Nestea and virtually every single progamer out there is more known than day9.When I watch a tournament I watch it because I want to see MKP vs DRG or Squirtle or MVp not some caster.

Dude, what world are YOU living in. Learn to read, I never said there were no other personality that helps this industry, because they're all joint, but Day9 has done alot of things for this community and by doing that he's also gained alot of fame not only inside the community but outside of it promoting e-sports and SC2. I can almost promise you that more people know about Day9 than any of the names you put out there, especially the players (sadly).

Why do I even respond to your post, seems to me you just wanted to say that there are other people in the industry that does alot of good (which was never up for discussion, because it's pretty damn obvious and not related to this topic).
Mada Mada Dane
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11586 Posts
May 24 2012 10:06 GMT
#327
I analyzed a few of his casts and heard some a couple stories from some random people and I can totally tell Day9 is an arrogant, narcissistic, opportunistic, fake, greedy bastard. And you he was just lucky because he was in the right place at the right time. That opportunistic, corporate hack. (played Starcraft since 98? ...Nah.) Who is this guy? And what's he doing in our community?

The OP had good intentions, but the fact that people that have actually worked with Day9 confirm that he's the real thing stands in firm contrast to people's over analysis of bits and pieces of video clips and random interactions. Can you actually determine narcissism without interacting with the guy?

I wonder how many that complain about the changes from the early days actually watched it live because there weren't very many of us when we were reaching those first bench marks and being rewarded with thug snaps and Overlord sounds.
In this thread I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
Moderator5000 of our finest Taliban warriors have been released! Rise up my brothers. Mashalla! al-Donald ibn-Frederick al-Masih allows it.
parduebob11
Profile Joined May 2012
Bahrain20 Posts
May 24 2012 10:07 GMT
#328
On May 24 2012 18:53 Dali. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 18:45 parduebob11 wrote:
On May 24 2012 18:42 Dali. wrote:
On May 24 2012 18:40 parduebob11 wrote:
I don`t personally know why this dude day9 is so popular.I tried watching a couple of his shows and he appeared without any doubt the most boring/politcally correct/uninterresting caster out of them all.Seriously is hard to find someone more boring than Day9 in the gaming community.Incontrol would stand a good chance but due to the controversies with Idra,CombatEx and other simmilar stuff+his girlfriend he has become more interesting.Honestly,Day9 does not have any clue of the game,he doesn`t do anything interesting,and he is simply boring.Watching him is like watching a corporatist speaking about a subject he has no connection to.I would rather watch a Orb/Destiny/Incontrol/Grubby cast rather than Day9.Even MC with his bad English is more entertaining than Day9.
About the his behind the scenes behavior,I have heard many rumors of semi-progamers or casters who think they`re Justin Bieber and when somebody ask for an autograph they go on primadonna stance.The main question here is why would anyone want to talk to Day9.he is boring as hell,fake beyond recognition,and he gives automatic politically correct answers.I have seen some tournaments casted by Day9(including the recent one when he was in the parking lot).he seems totally out of place,not collaborating with his co caster and overall a very boring guy.I`ve seen some of his Daylis have like 10k viewers but the real question here is:does anyone actually watch them or they just leaving the stream open for the purpose of helping him because honestly they are boring as hell.
day9 is basicly the embodiment of extreme corporatism brought into the gaming community which once was a liberal,free for all,hipster type of thing.unfortunatelly due to some 20 or 30 viewers who think they represent the community when in fact they are just a small minority people like Destiny/Orb get sidelined while boring corporatist Day9 set the trend for the next generation of succesfull casters.even the koreans are not that strict or politically correct.The model is successfull applied by gretorp,Rotterdam,Khaldor,CatzPijamas,Appolo etc.No wonder Lol is taking over.I for one have a hard time falling asleep when one of these politically corect casters start talking.Even the classic Tastosis duo has more life and entertainment in them than the present day casters.


Oh god reddit is overflowing again.


You probably are one of those who email the sponsors when Destiny and Orb say something bad on stream.Poor you.i feel sorry for you.People like you are the death of sc2 as the number one esport.


Actually I take the time to purchase AND email companies that support esports while building my current PC. I don't give a damn about orb and Destiny's actions, I find neither situation contentious, both were simply bad moves for people in their positions.


Just as a sidenote computercompanies besides Intel don`t support esports that much.If you are talking about Razer I seriously doubt you spend about 2000 usdollars on a gaming laptop considering that you are building your pc and most of the companies have premade systems available.But nevertheless the information is unverifiable

[/QUOTE]

The post you just spewed is the exact flavour of excrement I hate seeing: unsubstantiated personal attacks on people doing unequivocal good in the community. You are acting as the fuel that burns the bullshit drama wildfire.
[/QUOTE]

I also hate seeing politically correct corect internetusers such as yourself throwing the word `community` around when most of the viewers form tournaments who keep the sc2 scene alive(that is the tenths of thousands of viewers needed for a tournament to be succesfull)only watch a tournament for specific stars and drama.just watch as the ratings go down when a well known celebrity leaves a tournament.But you don`t care about that now do you.Personally if you consider my post garbage,i consider you garbage also and yes users such as yourself are a plague to the esports community.
[/QUOTE]
Now personally, I don't watch day9. I don't go out of my way to see his casts these days. But Daily #100 and Day9s earlier sc2 dailies were a major reason why I got into the game/scene and this is something which I'm sure many people coming from a non-BW background can attest to.

If you don't like the dude, then just say you don't like him. Why must you go about a full character assassination on little to no evidence?
[/QUOTE]

You don`t make any sense.You don`t watch him yet state he is interesting and helpfull for the community.This is exactly my point.Who watches Day9?How do you know he is doing good if you don`t watch him?
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
May 24 2012 10:09 GMT
#329
Is Bahrain even a real place? This has to be an elaborate troll.
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
May 24 2012 10:09 GMT
#330
Day9 is human and makes money, get the pitchforks!

Seriously, guys...
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
May 24 2012 10:09 GMT
#331
On May 24 2012 19:06 Falling wrote:
I analyzed a few of his casts and heard some a couple stories from some random people and I can totally tell Day9 is an arrogant, narcissistic, opportunistic, fake, greedy bastard. And you he was just lucky because he was in the right place at the right time. That opportunistic, corporate hack. (played Starcraft since 98? ...Nah.) Who is this guy? And what's he doing in our community?


At first when I read this I didn't catch the sarcasm... Was thinking "Wow, this from a TL mod... dayamn"... Then I caught on (^_^) I'm an idiot
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
Dali.
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand689 Posts
May 24 2012 10:09 GMT
#332
On May 24 2012 19:09 zefreak wrote:
Is Bahrain even a real place? This has to be an elaborate troll.


It is. New Zealand beat them in football a few years back.
hmmm...
Profile Joined March 2011
632 Posts
May 24 2012 10:11 GMT
#333
so is it actually true he's never proven he's GM?

many viewers of day9daily would feel cheated if that were true. not necessarily b/c day9's advice is bad, but b/c he's using a false status to elevate the legitimacy of his teachings.

really hope it's not true.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 24 2012 10:11 GMT
#334
On May 24 2012 19:03 smallerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 19:01 figq wrote:
Only people who basically don't understand the core of the work that Day[9] does are throwing mud on him. Idra is an exception, but Idra often throws mud on all kinds of people.

Seriously, 2GD (as much as I like the guy) or that esports journalist who got the hand, are so far from appreciating the depth of strategy analysis, and methodology for strategy development, which Day[9] has provided for the community (for free!) over the years. They probably don't even realize how much Day[9]'s work has pushed the competitive level of foreign RTS as a whole, simply because he helped a ton of people (for free! again) to actually start playing RTS efficiently and think productively and actually make progress - thus pushing the level of everybody up and up.


Yeah, you're probably right, 2GD doesn't realize shit about esports, who is he again?Last time i checked analyzing RTS games didn't make you into a diva.
2GD just started learning RTS, like a few days ago, yes.

I don't care he's pro at quake or other games, that's absolutely irrelevant.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
DaveVAH
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada162 Posts
May 24 2012 10:11 GMT
#335
On May 24 2012 18:48 Pwnographics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 18:47 DaveVAH wrote:
On May 24 2012 17:36 R3DT1D3 wrote:
Even so, being good enough to make what would likely be Masters in the current ladder with all three races is nothing to sneeze at.

Where is the proof that he is masters? in fact where is the proof that he plays any sc2 at all?

Thats one of the big reasons people think he is a fake. No one has seen him playing the game he claims to love and makes loads of money off of.


Because he gets master level knowledge by asking his chat right?



Master level knowledge judged by who?

He thinks seeker missiles are "stupidly good" and likes to talk about mech use in TvP. That sounds more like gold level talk to me.

No one has ever seen him play sc2 competitively. No one. His claim that he has had 3 gm accounts seem very hollow if not an outright lie.
parduebob11
Profile Joined May 2012
Bahrain20 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 10:15:24
May 24 2012 10:14 GMT
#336
On May 24 2012 19:06 Kyuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 18:52 parduebob11 wrote:
On May 24 2012 18:47 Kyuki wrote:
People who are extremly public will always falter at times and Day9 is without fail the biggest personality in the industry, so it's only natural.


Dude what planet are you living on?day9 the biggest personality in the industry?What industry?he is a successfull caster,I give him that but there are tons of personalitites that keep sc2 alive for fans.MKP,Violet,Idra,naniwa,Incontrol,MC,MMA,Nestea and virtually every single progamer out there is more known than day9.When I watch a tournament I watch it because I want to see MKP vs DRG or Squirtle or MVp not some caster.

Dude, what world are YOU living in. Learn to read, I never said there were no other personality that helps this industry, because they're all joint, but Day9 has done alot of things for this community and by doing that he's also gained alot of fame not only inside the community but outside of it promoting e-sports and SC2. I can almost promise you that more people know about Day9 than any of the names you put out there, especially the players (sadly).

Why do I even respond to your post, seems to me you just wanted to say that there are other people in the industry that does alot of good (which was never up for discussion, because it's pretty damn obvious and not related to this topic).


Reread your initial post man.You specified Day9 is the most wellknown perosnality in the sc2 industry.Which is completly fake and stupid.All major progamers are more wellknown than day9.The fact that Day9 does good for the community I give him that-he is a grinder and works dayly to put that analysis of his on youtube.
smallerk
Profile Joined October 2010
897 Posts
May 24 2012 10:15 GMT
#337
On May 24 2012 19:11 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 19:03 smallerk wrote:
On May 24 2012 19:01 figq wrote:
Only people who basically don't understand the core of the work that Day[9] does are throwing mud on him. Idra is an exception, but Idra often throws mud on all kinds of people.

Seriously, 2GD (as much as I like the guy) or that esports journalist who got the hand, are so far from appreciating the depth of strategy analysis, and methodology for strategy development, which Day[9] has provided for the community (for free!) over the years. They probably don't even realize how much Day[9]'s work has pushed the competitive level of foreign RTS as a whole, simply because he helped a ton of people (for free! again) to actually start playing RTS efficiently and think productively and actually make progress - thus pushing the level of everybody up and up.


Yeah, you're probably right, 2GD doesn't realize shit about esports, who is he again?Last time i checked analyzing RTS games didn't make you into a diva.
2GD just started learning RTS, like a few days ago, yes.

I don't care he's pro at quake or other games, that's absolutely irrelevant.


His experience with any game is irrelevant to determine if day9 is a shit person or not.
Never Regret anything because at one time it was exactly what you wanted.
Deimos0
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Poland277 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 10:16:39
May 24 2012 10:16 GMT
#338
On May 24 2012 19:06 Falling wrote:
I analyzed a few of his casts and heard some a couple stories from some random people and I can totally tell Day9 is an arrogant, narcissistic, opportunistic, fake, greedy bastard. And you he was just lucky because he was in the right place at the right time. That opportunistic, corporate hack. (played Starcraft since 98? ...Nah.) Who is this guy? And what's he doing in our community?


At first when I read this I didn't catch the sarcasm... Was thinking "Wow, this from a TL mod... dayamn"... Then I caught on (^_^) I'm an idiot


I almost fall for that but still - the only opinion that matters is from people who actually spend some time with him - there's no doubt 'internet analysts' have absolutely no grasp on facts. Is Day9 making money from what he's doing? Fine with me - if I'll ever want to support him with my money, then I'll try to check what can he do with them. Even if all casts, shows and dailies are made for money - they're still providing quality content.

EDIT: and woot - finally I have my zealot ^^
protect me from what I want
hookyelyak
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Egypt184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 10:25:32
May 24 2012 10:17 GMT
#339
♥ sean .....and instead of envying the guy just enjoy your life and stop hating every successful guy.
life.parting.mkp.hero.rain.
parduebob11
Profile Joined May 2012
Bahrain20 Posts
May 24 2012 10:17 GMT
#340
On May 24 2012 19:09 zefreak wrote:
Is Bahrain even a real place? This has to be an elaborate troll.


We have lots of oil and a very good Formula1 race.
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