EPTHow making another aka/smurf acc should be - Page 2
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KoBlades
Austria248 Posts
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Bayyne
United States1967 Posts
On May 13 2012 17:17 Alvin853 wrote: So you off-race 3 games, your MMR goes down, you go back to your main race, play 3 games and your MMR is back where it was before, what's the problem? And Blizzard is already adding unranked matchmaking. Also your opponents don't care, they're not going to remember your name forever after they crushed you just because you were trying something new, unless you're one of the top pros, in which case return to my original statement. ............ Since when does it take 3 losses to drop your MMR to the point where you are now playing completely subpar players relative to your current MMR? I'm a low masters zerg. I consider my terran and protoss at a plat level. You're telling me if I just lose 3 games, I'll start playing against plat level MMR players? Only 3 games -_-. And btw, not everyone who wants changes such as these want them because of anonymity/ladder anxiety/etc. I don't want to have to play 20-30 games (a much more reasonable number in my case) to get my MMR to the point where I don't get rolled every time I off-race. And when I do want to play my main race, I don't want to waste time playing against the lower MMR players just to get it back up to where my main race MMR is supposed to be at. Again, if you think it takes just 3 games to accomplish this (at least in my scenario, I'm not fortunate enough to play the other races at only a slightly less level than my main), I will further refrain from responding to you again on this site. | ||
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Ace1123
Philippines1187 Posts
On May 13 2012 17:24 KoBlades wrote: i think that a system like this, like in wow, was actually planned by blizz but scratched at some point. After login you still have to select your account, this makes no sense as you can only have one sc2 acc on one email/b.net-acc, but I guess they had planned for everyone to have multiple accounts. Nice observation, Yeah I think hey taught of that but discarded it. having 3 playable accounts would be just right. So that we can play on any race that we want and not buy another for smurfs/practice | ||
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hollabackk
118 Posts
On May 13 2012 17:14 Jisall wrote: Thats just what I want, I'm not concerned with mmr and shit, i don't ladder. Although i agree being not able to change your name is a little silly, that's not the point the OP is making. | ||
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entrust
Poland196 Posts
On May 13 2012 17:29 Ace1123 wrote: Nice observation, Yeah I think hey taught of that but discarded it. having 3 playable accounts would be just right. So that we can play on any race that we want and not buy another for smurfs/practice I think you guys got it wrong, it does make sense. You log in 1st by typing your emial and pass and then you choose on which one you want to play. It was there and the question is why they removed it? You could do that long time ago by having just one license. The way I see it working in SC2 is to make sub-menu where you choose on which name you want to play. 1. You log in. 2. Sub-menu - choose which aka you want to play 3. Logged in. Just like in WoW. 1. Log in 2. Sub-menu - choose your character 3. Logged in. Does having 10 characters means you should buy 10 accounts? Nobody has 10 mains in WoW. | ||
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kckkryptonite
1126 Posts
On May 13 2012 16:54 entrust wrote: There should be separate MMR for each race I love this idea. | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
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entrust
Poland196 Posts
missclick sorry | ||
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dronefarm
United States260 Posts
If you want to make an additional smurf, people buy another account. Makes sense from a buisness standpoint. It's shitty taht they do it, but that's the breaks yo | ||
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Rictusz
Latvia31 Posts
As for WoW , it has a monthly fee which provides stable income , not to mention the ammount of money you need to spend on the game and all the expansions to get access to all of the content , so it only makes sense to be possible to make many characters on the same account. But yeah i'd love to have a possibility of different aka's on the same account. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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shizzz
Australia127 Posts
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Cirqueenflex
499 Posts
On May 13 2012 17:18 SilverASD wrote: I think MMR should be separate by race so you would have 3 MMRs for 1v1. Kind of like having separate rankings in team games. Don't think it would be that hard to add 2 columns to the MMR database. To me, this looks rather narrow-minded. Currently my ZvT is around high master level, whereas my ZvZ is Platinum level and my ZvP fluctuates between them so most ZvT i just stomp my enemy, most ZvZ i get stomped, and in ZvP it is more of a coinflip who does the stomping, but i rarely ever get to play an even matched game. So when you include a different MMR for each race, you might as well want to think about a different MMR for each matchup, since they are sometimes more different from each other than your main and second race. This leaves you suddenly with 9 different MMRs. If you then factor in random as another race (since playing vs random forces you to abandon certain openings, simply because they do only work against certain races), you suddenly get 16 MMR's. This is not only 16 times the data of what it is now, but also i don't think i could remember more than half of my MMRs. Therefore the solution of multiple MMRs seems not viable to me at all (it would just confuse players more than it would help, since without matchup-specific MMRs it does not help that much at all). + Show Spoiler + Side notes: I assume a player of any league can offrace with the MMR of at least one league below, simply because of his mechanics/game understanding, so there should be no gap like diamond to silver between races you play. If there is, maybe the main race got too high of an MMR for the real capabilities of the player. Another funny side note: Even within a matchup, i could use at least 3 different MMRs. As an example here are parts of my ZvT: - against marine/tank or pure bio -> my MMR should be high masters - against hellion thor heavy mech -> my MMR should be low masters - against banshees into mass thor -> my MMR should be high diamond/low masters - against spoon terran style -> my MMR should be mid diamond (now of course i said before my ZvT MMR should be mid-high diamond, but that is because i mostly encounter marine/tank of pure bio players) in ZvP it is even more funny, since it not only depends on what my opponent goes for, but also what style i choose (for example i lose a ton going stephano style vs 2 base immortal sentry allin, whereas if i go for destiny style i crush those players) so give each player a MMR depending on what race they play, what matchup they play and for that matchup 4 different MMRs depending on the general strategy of their opponent, and 4 diffent MMRs depending on what strategy you chose, and you got yourself like what, 256 MMRs? Have fun with that -.- | ||
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wuhan_clan
United States5609 Posts
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Tyree
1508 Posts
Its just a bad idea overall, Warcraft 3 suffered because good players made smurfs daily and simply beat on new players, its why the game grew stagnant and the community was closed off. Do you know how many platinum-diamond players would smurf just to beat on complete newbies on a daily basis? The game is already very intimidating to new players, its why they are hiding their losses and trying to get new people into it. And i know what you are going to say : "They should just suck it up and practice" but that is a piss poor argument because no company in entire world is going to tell their customers to simply "suck it up noob!" it just does not work that way. Joey Walmart is not going to get beat up 1on1 by smurfs then go "well..i better practice and visit me some Teamliquid, read some strats, watch some replays, practice some more and then finally enjoy myself". It just does not work that way irl, Joey Walmart is going to stop playing and not buying the expansions. Again the benefit of your idea is miniscule, its there to appease players who are too obsessed with their ranks while the negative of it is massive, pretty much ground breaking. | ||
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S2Lunar
1051 Posts
Would take me a while to list all the reasons why 9+ characters for a single 60$ Starcraft 2 account would be a incredibly awful idea. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
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Millet
Sweden143 Posts
This solves two problems we and blizzard currently have: 1. No need for other accounts and thus no smuring (which is what blizz is worried about) 2. Some poeple feel (including me) that they can not play other races, which would actually bring diversity to the game. (i know i would play and learn more if i could play another race once in a while). Besides, it would be quite simple to implement, they already have the code to be able to do this. And all it would take is for another placement match for each race when they decide to implement this. | ||
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