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Hello,
for long time I was wondering about some decisions that Blizz made in SC2, they are at least questionable. Many players remember the system that was present in SC:BW and WC3. You could make infinite amount of accounts, it was really good when you wanted to try another race, learn completely new style etc. Now if you want to do that you have to buy another copy of SC2. Clearly for me it's all about money and IMO it doesn't make sense at all.
SC2 structure is in some ways different, but I think we still shouldn't be obligated to pay another 50$ to get training accounts (or w/e you wanna call that).
I was thinking about it for some time and I came to a conclusion that it should work like in World of Warcraft. You log into your account and then you are able to choose characters. One is your main character, but you are able to create 9 more characters and nobody charges you for this. I heard argument that it will screw new players, but it won't at all because
1. you play 5 placement matches and if you are not new you are not gonna end up in bronze
2. back to WoW point nobody bans twinks or they don't charge you for another character because you could make twink and screw new players.
My conclusion is:
One should be able to log into account and pick his aka
There could be limit to this just like in WoW (which doesn't really matter for 99% of players).
Another good thing that people suggest in this thread is
There should be separate MMR for each race
I like this one, because you could earn icons/achievements. I dare to even say it could work better than my original idea, since Unranked Matchmaking will resolve practice issues.
NOTE: I stopped playing WoW after 3 months and I'm glad...
NOTE2: I was aware that probably it was discussed before, but it kinda faded away. Blizzard is stubborn and community pushed them to implement good ideas not so long ago. If we stopped complaining about maps we would probably still play on Steps of War etc. Let us be heard.
EDIT: Poll
Poll: Do you agree?Yes (292) 79% No (77) 21% 369 total votes Your vote: Do you agree? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
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you should post this suggestion in bnet forums...
it would be cool to be able to use different usernames
however for trying out new races, they will be adding a feature where you can play unranked ladder matches
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Yeah, your idea totally stops me from making new accounts and tanking my placements just so I can fuck with people in bronze league.
If you played WoW, you'd know that people who are much farther advanced in the game (ie higher level) fucking love to run around fucking with people who are low level. It's a large part of why a lot of people play PvE servers; they want to avoid getting ganked by people they have no chance of beating in a fight. If I played (as a Diamond) in Bronze, it would be the equivalent of a level 60 running around Hillsbrad killing poor level 20's.
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This has been discussed before in the vein of being able to have at least a different ladder for each race option so if you want to try another race, you don't risk tanking your MMR (from say platinum to silver).
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Why do u need a smurf if we get unranked automatches for offracing and learning new builds?
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On May 13 2012 16:57 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
you should post this suggestion in bnet forums...
it would be cool to be able to use different usernames
however for trying out new races, they will be adding a feature where you can play unranked ladder matches
Maybe I care about TL opinion more  ?
and I don't think unranked ladder matches will solve all issues. I play toss and zerg and I want to play both on ladder. I'm master toss and diamond zerg. Do you think I'm going to play zerg on my account? Won't go too long on this, because we don't know exactly how it will look like, but one thing I know for sure is UNRANKED.
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What OP really wants:
A way to share his account with his siblings so they don't need to buy the game several times.
Maybe not, but that's the reason blizzard is not going to do that. And seriously, only pros that compete in tournaments regularly need smurfs so they don't reveal their strategies, and if they're well enough known that other players would study their strategies they can most likely afford to buy another SC2 license.
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On May 13 2012 17:04 Alvin853 wrote:
What OP really wants:
A way to share his account with his siblings so they don't need to buy the game several times.
Maybe not, but that's the reason blizzard is not going to do that. And seriously, only pros that compete in tournaments regularly need smurfs so they don't reveal their strategies, and if they're well enough known that other players would study their strategies they can most likely afford to buy another SC2 license.
I'd like to have a separate "account" to off-race without screwing up the MMR on my main race while not paying additional money for it.
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Personally I like the system they have in DotA 2 right now.
You can change your name as much as you want, whenever you want, but it all ties back to your steam login id.
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When do people actually overcome ladder anxiety and realize that a bronze/silver/gold/plat/master/GM symbol has very little to do with your skill and that you can have fun (at least that is/should be the main reason by playing games) without being on the top of some electronic chart that no one really cares for in the first place....
Just save your money and your energy and play on the one account you have.
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On May 13 2012 17:09 Jisall wrote:
Personally I like the system they have in DotA 2 right now.
You can change your name as much as you want, whenever you want, but it all ties back to your steam login id.
This has nothing to do with wanting a new name. Changing names doesn't change your account. If you want to try out new heroes for instance, you have to have another account, or your mmr will be exactly the same.
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On May 13 2012 17:11 hollabackk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 17:09 Jisall wrote:
Personally I like the system they have in DotA 2 right now.
You can change your name as much as you want, whenever you want, but it all ties back to your steam login id. This has nothing to do with wanting a new name. Changing names doesn't change your account. If you want to try out new heroes for instance, you have to have another account, or your mmr will be exactly the same.
Thats just what I want, I'm not concerned with mmr and shit, i don't ladder.
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Why would Blizzard ever do this if the only way they make more money is if you buy another copy of their game? It would be throwing money away to fix something that isn't even a problem for 99.999% of their player base.
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On May 13 2012 16:58 corpuscle wrote:
Yeah, your idea totally stops me from making new accounts and tanking my placements just so I can fuck with people in bronze league.
If you played WoW, you'd know that people who are much farther advanced in the game (ie higher level) fucking love to run around fucking with people who are low level. It's a large part of why a lot of people play PvE servers; they want to avoid getting ganked by people they have no chance of beating in a fight. If I played (as a Diamond) in Bronze, it would be the equivalent of a level 60 running around Hillsbrad killing poor level 20's.
I'm gonna further defend my statement by saying that I played WC3 for a lot of years and it never was that bad, you sound like everybody does it when in reality this is really small part of community.
It's not the same as in WoW, because there is no corpses and they cannot camp you. There are enough people in bronze so chance you gonna get same person are small. So no infinite trolling bro.
Also people who want to troll bronze players do it already. Maybe not the best example I will give, but Dragon does it in some higher leagues, but he is still better than the players he plays against.
Another thing is if you play for some time there is almost no way you gonna lose all your 5 placement matches and second your offrace skills are almost always worse, so the league you end up after placement matches is almost accurate representation of your skill.
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On May 13 2012 17:08 Bayyne wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 17:04 Alvin853 wrote:
What OP really wants:
A way to share his account with his siblings so they don't need to buy the game several times.
Maybe not, but that's the reason blizzard is not going to do that. And seriously, only pros that compete in tournaments regularly need smurfs so they don't reveal their strategies, and if they're well enough known that other players would study their strategies they can most likely afford to buy another SC2 license. I'd like to have a separate "account" to off-race without screwing up the MMR on my main race while not paying additional money for it.
So you off-race 3 games, your MMR goes down, you go back to your main race, play 3 games and your MMR is back where it was before, what's the problem? And Blizzard is already adding unranked matchmaking.
Also your opponents don't care, they're not going to remember your name forever after they crushed you just because you were trying something new, unless you're one of the top pros, in which case return to my original statement.
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I think MMR should be separate by race so you would have 3 MMRs for 1v1. Kind of like having separate rankings in team games. Don't think it would be that hard to add 2 columns to the MMR database.
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On May 13 2012 17:18 SilverASD wrote:
I think MMR should be separate by race so you would have 3 MMRs for 1v1. Kind of like having separate rankings in team games. Don't think it would be that hard to add 2 columns to the MMR database.
That would be also good bro.
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This is what unranked matchmaking will be for.
I would rather stay on the same War3 account to get wins for icons.
I would rather be playing at a higher level on an off race. Not going to get better stomping bronze. Might take a lot of losses, but that is a good way to learn.
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On May 13 2012 17:00 keeperton wrote:
This has been discussed before in the vein of being able to have at least a different ladder for each race option so if you want to try another race, you don't risk tanking your MMR (from say platinum to silver).
I agree to this. Separate ladder rankings for each race would be very natural. Someone asks you "What league are you?", and you can answer "I'm Diamond Terran and Gold Zerg", because you have separate rankings for different races on the same account.
I actually think it's strange they haven't implemented this from the start.
On May 13 2012 17:20 Sufinsil wrote:
This is what unranked matchmaking will be for.
I would rather stay on the same War3 account to get wins for icons.
I would rather be playing at a higher level on an off race. Not going to get better stomping bronze. Might take a lot of losses, but that is a good way to learn.
The thing is, I don't neccecarily want to get better. I want to have fun. To have fun I need to be able to face fair competition regardless of what race I play. I play Terran, and when I get tired of playing it and think of playing other races, it's not the MMR loss that freightens me, it's the losing. Losing many times in a row is not fun.
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