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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
On May 02 2012 07:08 Psychobabas wrote: here we go again... bring the pitchforks!!! except this time it won't work vs Destiny... Exactly, it won't work, and next time the pitchforks won't scare anyone. | ||
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Vul
United States685 Posts
Sometimes one man's trash is another man's treasure, but Destiny is clearly still trash. Quantic should release him, they were smaller at one time but now they have Sase, Naniwa and Startale. Why keep a player who acts like this? He doesn't need to play for a team anyway, he's not popular because he' a good player, he's popular because he's an idiot who appeals to kids who think it's funny when you call someone a gook or a nigger. I think it's awesome that people are posting threads like this, maybe Quantic will stop sleeping in coL's dirt. It would be addition by subtraction imo. User was warned for this post | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
On May 02 2012 07:04 Femari wrote: No actually that's not different. Even if it is on his personal stream he is still a public figure employed by Quantic. If any ESPN employee or personality said that on a stream they'd be fired immediately. The only thing that makes it different is the community believing that racist remarks are okay and Quantic obviously not giving a fuck about how their players act. His "personal" stream is also at the TOP of the featured streams list (usually by virtue of alphabetical order) on this SC2/BW community website. Disregarding the branding of Quantic, the branding of TeamLiquid itself is at stake and worth protecting. Idra getting banned for calling Crusher a waste of life, while Destiny's constant use of hate speech for rager ratings is swept under the rug is a sign of mixed messages. | ||
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
It doesn't matter if you think so or not since we can't do anything but guess. What is CLEAR is that he continues to use racist language / hate speech which further supports racism (you can read why here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319018 ). Sure, most of us have ignorantly done this in the past and have corrected it if we were mature enough. However, Destiny continues to support racist language after this is pointed out to him. Is it his right to say these things? Sure is. However he is on a team. That team has sponsors. He is representing them and they are supporting him. Do you see where this leads? They are indirectly supporting racism/hate speech through supporting him. I am pretty sure they are unaware of this and this whole fiasco will culminate in them being made aware of it. Will they react? We shall see. | ||
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ThomasHobbes
United States197 Posts
On May 02 2012 07:10 Vul wrote: Yea, I really don't have any respect for Destiny because he's immature as hell, but that's already well established. Sometimes one man's trash is another man's treasure, but Destiny is clearly still trash. Quantic should release him, they were smaller at one time but now they have Sase, Naniwa and Startale. Why keep a player who acts like this? He doesn't need to play for a team anyway, he's not popular because he' a good player, he's popular because he's an idiot who appeals to kids who think it's funny when you call someone a gook or a nigger. I think it's awesome that people are posting threads like this, maybe Quantic will stop sleeping in coL's dirt. It would be addition by subtraction imo. There is something that Destiny is very good at, and that's publicity. Name recognition is a huge part of his value to Quantic. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
However, I don't see how he remains a featured player with this attitude. He's mostly an entertainer, he is a good player indeed but still far from the top, and he spends a lot of time playing other games. Ok, he's listed in "others", true, but "others" are casters and entertainer" who are recognized as public figures, and it's seems unfit from TL to endorse a public figure who frequently calls peole niggerfaggotgooks. Not only that, but I believe that xenophobia is actually fairly common and that there's always some truth in the racial slurs we use. I never call people niggers, like I would never call people gooks, because I don't see it as an insult. If however it is such a common form of swearing for Destiny, then I believe it is because he thinks part of it, although he can never publicly admit it. | ||
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Phobbers
773 Posts
On May 02 2012 07:10 Vul wrote: Yea, I really don't have any respect for Destiny because he's immature as hell, but that's already well established. Sometimes one man's trash is another man's treasure, but Destiny is clearly still trash. Quantic should release him, they were smaller at one time but now they have Sase, Naniwa and Startale. Why keep a player who acts like this? He doesn't need to play for a team anyway, he's not popular because he' a good player, he's popular because he's an idiot who appeals to kids who think it's funny when you call someone a gook or a nigger. I think it's awesome that people are posting threads like this, maybe Quantic will stop sleeping in coL's dirt. It would be addition by subtraction imo. edit; Salty words, don't wanna get owned by TL admins zzzz | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On May 02 2012 05:29 Primadog wrote: Poll: If you're asian, are you offended? I am offended by this thread (78) I am offended by the destiny screenshot in OP (50) I am not offended by the destiny screenshot in OP (40) 168 total votes Your vote: If you're asian, are you offended? (Vote): I am offended by the destiny screenshot in OP As expected. The only offensive thing going on is in this thread. Do you realize that everyone is going to vote whether or not they're actually Asian? | ||
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xtruder
Afghanistan135 Posts
Destiny has every right to say what he wants, but we shouldn't support him using slurs if we know what's best for the community and if we want to be taken seriously in the mainstream. It's not hard to get someone to change their habits. We should send Destiny the message. He can change, not us. | ||
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Grend
1600 Posts
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Vandyy
United States2 Posts
go watch the video debate about the last time someone accused him of trashing eSports by using hurtful language that pretty much sums it up | ||
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blinkingangels
105 Posts
Either way, its his stream and its what he is popular for, so if it bothers you, don't watch his stream. | ||
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FroggerScarletFan
Canada45 Posts
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Deathmanbob
United States2356 Posts
On May 02 2012 07:12 IshinShishi wrote: Gook is extremely offensive, I wouldn't expect anything less than him being unfeatured. i expect that you will not get what you are expecting. do we REALLY have to do this every time someone pisses off someone? OHHHHH NOOOO the guy known for bm said something mean to me next we will be making threads when idra doesnt gg before leaving a game. Lets all chill out and relax, we all know that destiny stream is a little bit crazy but i know thats why i watch. | ||
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ThomasHobbes
United States197 Posts
On May 02 2012 07:14 xtruder wrote: We all know Destiny's (probably) not racist or using it to insult someone of another race, but it does send the wrong message if we allow such things in the community to happen. What he's doing isn't considered normal and it's very reasonable that newcomers or even people who watch his stream take offense. Destiny has every right to say what he wants, but we shouldn't support him using slurs if we know what's best for the community and if we want to be taken seriously in the mainstream. It's not hard to get someone to change their habits. We should send Destiny the message. He can change, not us. The mainstream does not take video games seriously because they're video games, it has very little to do with how players act. I think even the most cursory glance at some football and basketball players will show a less than stellar track record at being exemplary members of the community, that isn't the problem, nor will the community ask Destiny to change when a sizeable number see no problem with the status quo. | ||
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Vul
United States685 Posts
On May 02 2012 07:12 Phobbers wrote: edit; Salty words, don't wanna get owned by TL admins zzzz Originally this said something like that "If Destiny is trash what does that make you?" All I can say is I don't even BM when I lose and there's no way in hell you'd catch me calling anyone a gook. Anyone who talks like that to another person, over the internet or not, is a trashy person and I don't feel bad at all for saying so. If I knew him personally I would tell Destiny the same thing | ||
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
On May 02 2012 07:16 Deathmanbob wrote: i expect that you will not get what you are expecting. do we REALLY have to do this every time someone pisses off someone? OHHHHH NOOOO the guy known for bm said something mean to me next we will be making threads when idra doesnt gg before leaving a game. Lets all chill out and relax, we all know that destiny stream is a little bit crazy but i know thats why i watch. Please see the distinction between being mean and using racial slurs / hate speech. | ||
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biomech
Germany380 Posts
On May 02 2012 07:14 xtruder wrote: We all know Destiny's (probably) not racist or using it to insult someone of another race I actually had to look up "Gook" on Wikipedia.. and it seems pretty insulting to me. On May 02 2012 07:14 xtruder wrote: Destiny has every right to say what he wants. No, that's not how it works if you're a "public figure". | ||
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Fueled
United States1610 Posts
OHHHHH NOOOO the guy known for bm said something mean to me Its more then just BM. Once race/ethnic background gets involved in the BM, the gloves come off for some people. | ||
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