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Pantagruel
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1427 Posts
April 05 2012 01:48 GMT
#121
This sounds like fun.

NA
Pantagruel (413)
Silver
Terran
BlueBoxSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States582 Posts
April 05 2012 02:09 GMT
#122
North American SC2 Bronze-Gold Team League [rough drafting]

~Potential Formats

Proleague

Players are matched based off of skill (Bronze v Bronze, Silver v S.)
Potentially played with an ace match, where teams choose a player
to play a final match against each other, ending a close series.

Pros: Teams can have a large variance in skill, and still
allow players to compete.
Teams get to serve as player hotspots for improvement.
Everyone gets to play at least one match. =)
Internal competition for the ace spot.
Probably closest to a real "team" feel.
Players can have a timeframe of when their matches are
played.
Cons: Teams with imbalanced player skill across the spectrum
can lead to "worse" teams winning.
Organization of matches is slightly harder than
all-kill format.
Currently has less support in TL.net poll.

All-Kill
Teams send out a list of players, and players go at it in
gladitorial-like combat, staying in the ring until they are bested.
Potentially played with an ace match, where teams choose a player
to play a final match against each other, ending a close series.

Pros:There is overall more potential for epic players
to emerge and dominate a match. DRGGGGGG~~
Matches are easier to organize, compared to
all-kill format.
Encourages teams to develop stronger players.
Cons: One player can potentially carry an entire team.
Development of players is more important than
development of teams as a whole.

Personally, I lean towards more proleague format, as it would allow actual
teams to be a bit of a bigger deal. I don't know, the whole idea
of all-kill just seems a little meh to me.

Either Bo5 or Bo7. Going to have to depend on team size.

I like the idea of ace match, and I think season one should include it.

*******League Breakdown*******

BoX Double Elimination, with Bo9 + Ace Finals?

League Management establishes parameters for teams to follow;

IE, must have two team officers (one captain, another co-captain)
Must have two bronze, two silver, two gold, etc.
Something like this is probably necessary with such a large skill gap.
League randomly creates bracket until teams begin to consistently perform.
~~~challonge.com~~~~
Management announces bracket and gives deadlines for matches.

It is up to teams to schedule matches between captains, any disputes are
passed up to management.

Results are announced to management and replays are enclosed in an email
sent no later than the previously announced deadline.

In regards to no-shows, after half-hour has passed, team captain PM's
management with written agreement from other captain to time
including opposing captain + co-captain Bnet ID and code.
After 45 minutes, bye is given and no-show is given loss.


*******Where to Host it********

Management can use TL for first season, afterwards, they should probably
look into external hosting alternatives, but we'll see based off of
first season interest.
BwCBlueBox.837
daxis
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 02:21:02
April 05 2012 02:12 GMT
#123
NA
daxis 205
gold
random

i can be a team captain
Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
April 05 2012 02:20 GMT
#124
I personally think the pro league would be a lot better for a thing like this.
eSports for life.
Dasende
Profile Joined August 2010
United States864 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 02:23:16
April 05 2012 02:22 GMT
#125
On April 05 2012 11:20 Ksquared wrote:
I personally think the pro league would be a lot better for a thing like this.


It's pretty well established (I thought) we were doing the pro league format anyway.

I liked howlin's chart thingy for the overall format.

EDIT: I feel odd using "we" ... I'm not an organizer or helper or anything for this thing.. v.v but the "collective" has agreed on pro league as the best format for this I thought.
[SC2: Dasende.347] [@Dasende8702] [HS/Heroes: Dasende#1376] Founder of ChoboTeamLeague
Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
April 05 2012 02:30 GMT
#126
Oh well thats good.
eSports for life.
daxis
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3 Posts
April 05 2012 02:40 GMT
#127
Any ETA on when this is gona start?
Reedjr
Profile Joined April 2011
United States228 Posts
April 05 2012 02:43 GMT
#128
We still have a few things to work out, but it should hopefully only be a week or two before everything is up and running.
Volamel
Profile Joined September 2011
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 18:41:47
April 05 2012 02:44 GMT
#129
Love to help out in some way. (Coach,Practice partner,etc.)
Volamel 757
Edit: oops, for got to add stuff.
-Diamond
-NA
-Zerg
NA Volamel 757
BlueBoxSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States582 Posts
April 05 2012 02:45 GMT
#130
@Dasende
@Reed

Hey guys, sent you both PMs with my work on the thread/teamleague.

Hit me up.
BwCBlueBox.837
Dasende
Profile Joined August 2010
United States864 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 02:55:09
April 05 2012 02:51 GMT
#131
As I stated before howlin' has the league overall format as Round Robin into single elim bracket, but do we want that way or like the GSTL double elim style?

Personally, I prefer the double elim style but the round robin ensures that all teams will play games every week.
[SC2: Dasende.347] [@Dasende8702] [HS/Heroes: Dasende#1376] Founder of ChoboTeamLeague
lol_Robot
Profile Joined November 2011
United States66 Posts
April 05 2012 03:00 GMT
#132
I'd love to do this; I'll put my info in but probably wouldn't be able to if it was on a weekend. Definitely in favor of a Proleague- Bo5 or Bo7 format.

MaestroXC.921
NA Silver
Zerg

bzzzzzt. CTL: Team Guns 'n' Roaches
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
April 05 2012 03:01 GMT
#133
@BlueBoxSC: Thanks for your input! I agree that the proleague match format is definitely the way to go, mainly because it allows every player to play a match each week and it creates more of a team feel, as you said.

As for the league format, I don't really agree with a double elimination bracket, because it's a system that excludes teams from the season early on, and people want to join this league because they want to play. I think the round robin group allows for a much larger time period where every team is still playing in the league. In a double elimination bracket, you can play as few as two matches and you're out, while in a round robin group system every team gets to play at least 7 matches. I think it may be much more fun for the teams and the players if they get to play as much as possible.

I think a bo5 is the best way to go, as it reduces the amount of players per team, making everything much easier to run. Maybe after the first season and it's clear that the league can function with more players, it can be changed to a bo7 or even a bo9, but for now I think bo5s are more than enough to test the waters.
Smooch
Profile Joined January 2011
United States27 Posts
April 05 2012 03:02 GMT
#134
This all sounds great but it is listed as a "Team League" idea. From what I have seen, mostly everyone commenting here are individual players. Are there any actual teams formed yet?

Smooch.163
NA Silver
Toss
Dasende
Profile Joined August 2010
United States864 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 03:10:12
April 05 2012 03:05 GMT
#135
On April 05 2012 12:02 Smooch wrote:
This all sounds great but it is listed as a "Team League" idea. From what I have seen, mostly everyone commenting here are individual players. Are there any actual teams formed yet?

Smooch.163
NA Silver
Toss


There have been a few people who said their team would be willing to join, one is listed in the spreadsheet. The plan was once there was a viable amount of players team captains would pick from the pool to complete teams. At least that is what I recall from the previous posts, no one has really called dibs on being a captain on the NA side I believe though.
[SC2: Dasende.347] [@Dasende8702] [HS/Heroes: Dasende#1376] Founder of ChoboTeamLeague
Smooch
Profile Joined January 2011
United States27 Posts
April 05 2012 03:10 GMT
#136
Well then looks like the first order of Business is to organize teams :D
Dasende
Profile Joined August 2010
United States864 Posts
April 05 2012 03:11 GMT
#137
On April 05 2012 12:10 Smooch wrote:
Well then looks like the first order of Business is to organize teams :D


Indeed, the only problem is... if we want at least 8 teams with at LEAST 1 bronze in it. We only have 3 signed up, so that is the limiting factor at this point.
[SC2: Dasende.347] [@Dasende8702] [HS/Heroes: Dasende#1376] Founder of ChoboTeamLeague
AHMED1234
Profile Joined March 2012
7 Posts
April 05 2012 03:21 GMT
#138
On April 05 2012 12:11 Dasende wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 12:10 Smooch wrote:
Well then looks like the first order of Business is to organize teams :D


Indeed, the only problem is... if we want at least 8 teams with at LEAST 1 bronze in it. We only have 3 signed up, so that is the limiting factor at this point.


well I could get a couple of my bronzie friends to play, and wouldn't high bronze be the same level as low/mid silver?
BlueBoxSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States582 Posts
April 05 2012 03:25 GMT
#139
On April 05 2012 12:21 AHMED1234 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 12:11 Dasende wrote:
On April 05 2012 12:10 Smooch wrote:
Well then looks like the first order of Business is to organize teams :D


Indeed, the only problem is... if we want at least 8 teams with at LEAST 1 bronze in it. We only have 3 signed up, so that is the limiting factor at this point.


well I could get a couple of my bronzie friends to play, and wouldn't high bronze be the same level as low/mid silver?


MAJOR UPDATE:

Hey guys, right now, me and Dasende are bumping around the idea of having this be a league where Silvers/Golds actively play while Bronzes aspire to compete and Plats+ help players improve. =)
BwCBlueBox.837
Dasende
Profile Joined August 2010
United States864 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 03:28:37
April 05 2012 03:26 GMT
#140
On April 05 2012 12:21 AHMED1234 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 12:11 Dasende wrote:
On April 05 2012 12:10 Smooch wrote:
Well then looks like the first order of Business is to organize teams :D


Indeed, the only problem is... if we want at least 8 teams with at LEAST 1 bronze in it. We only have 3 signed up, so that is the limiting factor at this point.


well I could get a couple of my bronzie friends to play, and wouldn't high bronze be the same level as low/mid silver?


As this is a Bronze, Silver, Gold league (at this time) their relation to Silver really doesn't matter. So if you have like 5 bronzies that want to play (in the NA region)... super! lol

MAJOR UPDATE:

Hey guys, right now, me and Dasende are bumping around the idea of having this be a league where Silvers/Golds actively play while Bronzes aspire to compete and Plats+ help players improve. =)


This idea is being thrown about because we have enough Silver/Gold players to make 8 teams with 5 players each at this current time.
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