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howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 00:29:46
April 04 2012 00:28 GMT
#61
I made a graph to illustrate everything I wrote, here it comes:

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[image loading]


Please give your suggestions. I'm not entirely sold on my own match format, but I think the league format is pretty solid and feasable for its time frame.
shadow_orc
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada52 Posts
April 04 2012 00:32 GMT
#62
that looks awesome but one question. how are you gonna ensure that the bronze and silver get to play
There are only patterns, patterns on top of patterns, patterns that affect other patterns. Patterns hidden by patterns. Patterns within patterns. If you watch close, history does nothing but repeat itself. What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't re
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 00:39:01
April 04 2012 00:36 GMT
#63
@RainSunShowers: It would be cool to have teams playing each other more than once in the season (it can happen in the league format I propose), but in the way you're saying it would take a lot longer for each season to end. I'm not necessarily against that, I just tried for a more compact format. As for the all-kill issues you raise, see my response to Reedjr please.

@Reedjr: With the league format I made each team would play at most 2 times in a week, and that's if they go to the 5th match in the groups stages. My workaround of the problem of having a match format that can potentially leave out players (i.e. all-kill) is to have a minimum of players from each league, which I think would make the matches less punishable for the lower leagues.

@shadow_orc: even if a team sends out its best player (i.e. gold) there's always the chance the other team sends out their best player to try to snipe him, and if the gold players go out first, the silver and bronze players have also a chance of going in if it's a bo7 format. But yes, I can see some problems arising from that. I'm gonna see other options.
Reedjr
Profile Joined April 2011
United States228 Posts
April 04 2012 02:18 GMT
#64
Here is my proposed rule set. This is subject to change, but should give a good idea of what will happen:

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Teams: 8 teams of 5 players each, with a waiting list of players in case of dropouts or inactivity.
Player draft: Captains for the first season are made by simply calling dibs on captain (note: dibs on captain) and dibs on a color (note: dibs on pink). Remaining players are placed into draft based upon league, with teams picking bronze first, then silver, then gold. Alternative: first season teams are randomized with leagues in mind. Based on 5 person teams, we would likely have 1 bronze and then 2 each of silver and gold per team.

Format: Double elimination bracket BO5. Seeding will be randomized. Each match is BO3 and must be matched by league in the other team. 1 week is granted for each round to ensure all games are played. This ensures each player plays each week, with the winner’s bracket team getting a bye in the week of the loser bracket finals. Finals would keep this format. Alternative: teams can opt for an all-kill format for their round, which must be agreed upon by both teams. In this instance, each match is BO1.

Map Pool: Season 7 map pool. Each player gets 3 vetos which are given to the opponent before the match. Loser picks next map. First map should always be… (This is subject to change) Daybreak? For clarification:

Cloud Kingdom LE
Korhal Compund LE
Antiga Shipyard
Entombed Valley
Metalopolis
Shakuras Plateau
Tal'Darim Altar
Daybreak LE
Metropolis LE
Ohana LE

Disqualification: If a player does not play his match during a given week, he is disqualified and immediately replaced by someone on the waiting list (in the same league, so teams don’t encourage/force their lower level players out). Players will have free reign to define when during the week they can play, and DQ decisions will be based upon which player skips out on the defined time. In order to prove this, players should make match times in the thread or via PM, both of which can be verified. If both players in a match DQ, the round goes into an ace match.

In Game rules:
1: No cheating (i.e. map hacks, having teammates tell you what opponent is doing, what have you). This is just for fun, why would you do that?
2: BM is allowable, but no slurs or physical threats. Basically, if it’s even a temp-bannable offense by Blizzard, don’t do it in game. A bit of smack talk can be fun, but it cannot go too far. Good Manners, however, are always encouraged!
3: Violations of the first two rules will result in a DQ.
4: Other team members observing is encouraged. Just don’t use it to tell the players what the opponent is doing. If you lag and you aren’t a player, just get out before they ask you to.
5: Dropping games shall result in a re-game unless if both parties agree that one player had a significant advantage. Disputes will go to me, with a full replay and a brief message on why player X was winning or why it should be a regame. About this, again, don’t be a dick, if your opponent drops after a 40 minute game and it’s 20 supply to 150, don’t dispute the win. Be a good sport and use common sense. This is supposed to be for fun, dammit.


If I have missed anything or you have other suggestions, please let me know! Again, this is my proposal, so it is hardly set in stone.
AHMED1234
Profile Joined March 2012
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 13:44:28
April 04 2012 02:32 GMT
#65
oo sick
I'm in

TheMightyCow - 282
US Goldz
Zerg
CptBeefheart
Profile Joined April 2011
United States45 Posts
April 04 2012 03:06 GMT
#66
I hope this gets off the ground

Kassla 545
US Zerg
Silver
Chasian18
Profile Joined September 2011
United States38 Posts
April 04 2012 03:42 GMT
#67
Hey yo, teamPAYBACK is definitely in. We got one gold 2 silvers and a bronze. (iffy on the bronze)
Ingame name: PAYBACKchas.199
Gold
Protoss baller

We were just talking about how we hoped this could happen. Hope the plans go through. We would like to stay together.

(we're all on US)

Cheers
To lose is to learn.
LosZergs
Profile Joined August 2011
United States100 Posts
April 04 2012 06:27 GMT
#68
^well there is one team =]
spam F!
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 09:46:18
April 04 2012 09:44 GMT
#69
@Reedjr: I think it's a good idea to randomize the teams just for starters, but for people that know each other or even people that have already their amateur team, like Chasian18 above, wouldn't it be better to group the people that want to stay together and then randomize the remaining people into their incomplete "teams"?
I like the idea of having a fixed system where it's predefined which players from which leagues are gonna play. But if it's bo5 I would do something like Silver - Bronze - Gold - Silver - Gold in the order of the matches, because not only you will have a match from each rank (even if it goes 3-0), but also you can have an escalating quality of games and intensity in the match.
I don't like the idea of a double elimination bracket, because then that's not exactly a league, it's a tournament. I think a league should at least have a round robin of some kind before any type of bracket.
As for the map pool I think that's the best choice, people in lower leagues don't exactly have the means of practicing in maps that are not in the ladder.

Btw, I think we're gonna need to have a NA league and a EU league.
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
April 04 2012 09:56 GMT
#70
Colony.532
Silver
Zerg
EU
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
NoRage
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland2 Posts
April 04 2012 10:53 GMT
#71
Would be interested to join if it's going up anytime soon.
NoRage.765
Gold
Protoss
EU Server
It's only a game! Why you heff to be mad!
Giku
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands368 Posts
April 04 2012 13:26 GMT
#72
I'm in for it!

JaKsZero.230
Gold
Random
EU
Let the music be the fuse that'll spark my soul
MaximusT
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States126 Posts
April 04 2012 14:08 GMT
#73
Any update on any decisions made? And maybe I just missed it, but is there a timeframe for when this could get off the ground?

I agree with howLiN about non-random teams. Cuz I have friends that I play with and we would be interested in forming a team and participating.

Well anyway, I'm in.

Maximus.255
Bronze possibly silver soon yay :/
Terran
NA
I like the building position. Optimized to let the other player penetrate his anal crevice as easily as possible, it's good. - Destiny
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
April 04 2012 14:15 GMT
#74
I really want to get this going as soon as possible, I'm preparing a revision of my plan that integrates some of Reedjr's ideas, I'll post it later.
HurrDurrrrPWNs
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom18 Posts
April 04 2012 14:15 GMT
#75
BobRoss.231
Silver
Terran
EU


Would like to play some competitive games other than playhem. :D
The sickest nerd baller.
pStar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
996 Posts
April 04 2012 14:21 GMT
#76
The best way to do this is in proleague format, that way it is fairer on each of theplayers in the team

For example, (assuming 2Golds, 2SIlvers And 1Bonze)

Gold <> Gold
Silver <> SIlver
Bronze <> Bronze
Gold <> Gold
Silver <> Silver
Ace <> Ace

Its unfair to ask bronze level player to play against golds. This way makes it more fun for everyone.
Robo-boogey
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia110 Posts
April 04 2012 14:26 GMT
#77
On April 04 2012 09:28 howLiN wrote:
I made a graph to illustrate everything I wrote, here it comes:

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[image loading]


Please give your suggestions. I'm not entirely sold on my own match format, but I think the league format is pretty solid and feasable for its time frame.

Thanks for the nice chart!

In general, I like it. 1 match per week I assume, 6-8 weeks is a nice length.

When balancing teams, we're not going to show up in teams already, perhaps we can just assign players to teams so they are roughly equal.

I wouldn't worry too much about how the player movement happens between seasons.

But definitely not all-kill. IMO players in each team are ranked, order them for matches to avoid gold vs bronze followed by bronze vs gold. (* what pStar just said.)

I don't think there will be an SEA league...are there enough SEA nominees to make an SEA team in the NA league?

Let's get this started!
RedBlargh
Profile Joined July 2011
99 Posts
April 04 2012 14:35 GMT
#78
So interested, gives meaning to my lowly Silver league status.

RedFolly.630
Silver
Terran
NA Server
MaximusT
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States126 Posts
April 04 2012 14:37 GMT
#79
Here's my opinion on the teams.

I would rather form a team of 2 bronze, 2 silver, and 1 gold with four of my friends than 4 randoms with the aforementioned specifications on ranks and such. I want to participate for the fun of playing with my friends.

And not all-kill.

Like I said, just my opinion on this matter.
I like the building position. Optimized to let the other player penetrate his anal crevice as easily as possible, it's good. - Destiny
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
April 04 2012 14:43 GMT
#80
It should be similar to the Proleague style of team matches, like this:

Bronze vs Bronze
Silver vs Silver
Gold vs Gold
Platinum vs Platinum

Ace Match if needed: Diamond vs Diamond

To let everybody play who isn't necessarily competitive, but wants to play in a team league
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
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