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On February 27 2012 03:27 itsjustatank wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 03:26 nihlon wrote: If you ask them not to use it they'll probably not use it anymore. Any more would seem like a bit of an overreaction and a waste of your time. It already aired, there is no way to ask them to remove it. The damage has been done.
"The damage has been done" ROFL.
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On February 27 2012 04:03 thebike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 04:01 roymarthyup wrote: LOL at anyone supporting the OP.
First of all, he can sue all he wants, he will get nothing. No court or jury will reward him anything because its not like music or video cases, its a damn picture.
In fact, the courts will reward MLG money for legal fees and the OP will be forced to pay MLG.
You can say "legally its the same as downloading and broadcasting music" all you want, the truth is courts do not operate on 100% absolute legal grounds anymore. Its all based on emotions, which is how humans operate. And humans look at videos and music and can easily see ok this dude knew this was clearly a song or a video he didnt own without paying for.
But pictures? Dude any jury will think "umm MLG just found some picture on the internet and used it."
With music and video its easy to assume the downloaded KNEW he was downloading questionable content.
But a picture, who cares. no way to know who took the picture. And if you are downloading something off the internet you dont KNOW is questionable, then any jury will say you are not guilty because theres no way for you to know you were doing anything wrong.
What makes music and movie cases to easy is the fact that most juries will say because its music its easy to assume beyond a reasonable doubt the user knew he was committing a crime as he was doing it so it makes it easier to claim him as guilty. But with internet copyright its hard to claim someone is guilty when he just downloaded something, essentially replicated it, and the jury cannot be sure he even knew it was wrong which means there could be thousands of people committing the same crime unknowingly which means it is really a sort of entrapment, and in reality the jury would decide the true victim is MLG for being a victim of unknowing entrapment.
Instead, blame will be put on the owner of the picture. If you "own" that picture you shouldnt allow it to be "posted" on the internet by anyone without a clear clause stating the picture is owned and not available for unintended use wherever the picture is "posted"
So yes, this thread is pointless. Im sure someone will respond to me saying i dont know jack legally, but the fact is, the moment the OP gets one penny in compensation, is the only moment I will start to care about this crap. OK, I'll be the guy who says you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, so please stop saying random bullshit and acting like you have a law degree when you OBVIOUSLY don't. Jesus Christ people.
like clockwork, lol
allow me to repeat, the moment the OP gets one penny in compensation, is the only moment I will start to care about this crap. This thread is pretty funny honestly. Glad i opened it.
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On February 27 2012 03:57 Skilledblob wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 03:56 Ercster wrote: If I'm not mistaken, by mirroring the picture, they bypass your copyright because it isn't the same picture then. You can do this with movies to bypass their copyright. lol no dude that's plainly wrong. Enough videos got removed from youtube because they tried that.
Lol, I'm making the Lisa Mona, and just reversing the picture but making sure its exactly the same : )
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Looks like someone wants to cash in on some e-fame...
Also, I'd be interested in a response from a real lawyer practicing copyright law in the US, instead of all these armchair lawyers chiming in.
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dude its just a picture stop trying to get e-fame get over it.
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Disgusting... copyright infringement at its best.
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On February 27 2012 04:01 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 03:59 The_Stampede wrote:On February 27 2012 03:55 ceaRshaf wrote:On February 27 2012 03:54 Remaker12 wrote:On February 27 2012 03:43 MLG_Adam wrote: You can email me directly if you would like to discuss this issue instead of posting a forum thread. My email address is aa@mlgpro.com.
FYI, this is not my specific expertise at MLG, but I do know this is covered in our TOS around tickets and via signage that is posted all over our venues. Pretty much this. If OP contacted MLG instead of posting it on TL he would have been offered a polite explanation/apology with compensation. Instead he pulls this publicity stunt. I hope he gets nothing but an empty apology. Sorry but you are a really bad person (I would like to insult you a lot more, but you are not worth my ban). HE HAS THE RIGHT TO CALL ON MLG. And I want to be informed about this kind of issues that aren't resolved as we all expected. If any of you agree with the law..idk what to tell you. If it's on the internet it shouldn't even be yours anymore OMG! OMG! And MLG wants people like this to pay 20$ for a ticket. SC community fail. Your caps show how ignorant you are. All this guy like to do is complain like the rest of the community...it's getting old. Clearly he's trying to bring drama up in the community. How about you speak to MLG first before bashing them....zzzzzzzzzz the human race amazes me when I read crap like this. My caps show how mad I am. You post how ever shows how ignorant you are. Hey mods please close this thread...just read for once and understand the level of derp in this thread. Why is it that when there is a drama thread every 10 year old shows up crying because mommy didn't buy them the pass or something stupid.
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On February 27 2012 04:01 roymarthyup wrote: LOL at anyone supporting the OP.
First of all, he can sue all he wants, he will get nothing. No court or jury will reward him anything because its not like music or video cases, its a damn picture.
In fact, the courts will reward MLG money for legal fees and the OP will be forced to pay MLG.
You can say "legally its the same as downloading and broadcasting music" all you want, the truth is courts do not operate on 100% absolute legal grounds anymore. Its all based on emotions, which is how humans operate. And humans look at videos and music and can easily see ok this dude knew this was clearly a song or a video he didnt own without paying for.
But pictures? Dude any jury will think "umm MLG just found some picture on the internet and used it."
With music and video its easy to assume the downloaded KNEW he was downloading questionable content.
But a picture, who cares. no way to know who took the picture. And if you are downloading something off the internet you dont KNOW is questionable, then any jury will say you are not guilty because theres no way for you to know you were doing anything wrong.
What makes music and movie cases to easy is the fact that most juries will say because its music its easy to assume beyond a reasonable doubt the user knew he was committing a crime as he was doing it so it makes it easier to claim him as guilty. But with internet copyright its hard to claim someone is guilty when he just downloaded something, essentially replicated it, and the jury cannot be sure he even knew it was wrong which means there could be thousands of people committing the same crime unknowingly which means it is really a sort of entrapment, and in reality the jury would decide the true victim is MLG for being a victim of unknowing entrapment.
Instead, blame will be put on the owner of the picture. If you "own" that picture you shouldnt allow it to be "posted" on the internet by anyone without a clear clause stating the picture is owned and not available for unintended use wherever the picture is "posted"
So yes, this thread is pointless. Im sure someone will respond to me saying i dont know jack legally, but the fact is, the moment the OP gets one penny in compensation, is the only moment I will start to care about this crap.
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Can I just honestly ask.. Who cares?
This thread is just bashing on MLG. If the OP actually emailed MLG directly, s/he would of been given a compromise, I believe anyone would of given a compromise. I hope MLG just slam the door in their face now for public bashing.
Regardless, if you think you have a case on MLG take it to court, else don't make a thread with ill intentions. Because it's just more unneeded drama, and it's not like the SC2 scene needs any more of the shit.
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I don't understand why this thread is even allowed here. If the problem truly is about copyright infringement, the OP should talk to MLG about it and ask either for compensation or the retrieval of the picture. As long as he doesn't do that, he's just attention whoring (about a super generic picture).
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.... Its more about the arena being PPV and then have the audacity to use copyrighted material.
Not that he is personally upset of being robbed, and I do agree its a little arrogant of mlg - I don't know how people can see making a thread on an internet forum as a large commitment.
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On February 27 2012 03:56 Ercster wrote: If I'm not mistaken, by mirroring the picture, they bypass your copyright because it isn't the same picture then. You can do this with movies to bypass their copyright. Alternation of the picture needs a photographer approval. And its pain in the ass if you ask me.
At least in Poland (the pirate capital of europe) MLG would have to paid $800 to use that photo in the internet transmission even if MLG claims partial ownership due to some TOS. Yeah photographers have their right covered in Poland.
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On February 27 2012 04:03 MLG_Adam wrote: To the OP, I shot you a PM. Would love to resolve this issue. Again, my email is aa@mlgpro.com
Thank you.
Thread is done and turning into a shithole fast because we have internet lawyers who don't know jack about copyright law.
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Oh man, people in this thread are so funny.
You go itsjustatank, protect what is yours.
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This is just very sloppy from MLG, i personally never have problems when other people/organizations use content/data i created but some do and they have all the rights to feel so and MLG should have asked permission.
Oh and reversing it is even worse.... MLG still has a long way to go.
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MLG is human, they make mistakes. It says in their terms of service that you should contact them and file a DMCA complaint if they've infringed on your copyright. Instead, you decide to make a thread about it so you can start drama?
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On February 27 2012 04:04 jianming wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 03:27 itsjustatank wrote:On February 27 2012 03:26 nihlon wrote: If you ask them not to use it they'll probably not use it anymore. Any more would seem like a bit of an overreaction and a waste of your time. It already aired, there is no way to ask them to remove it. The damage has been done. "The damage has been done" ROFL.
your name looks c_____e, what do you know about copyright....
oh violating it of course..
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On February 27 2012 04:06 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 04:03 MLG_Adam wrote: To the OP, I shot you a PM. Would love to resolve this issue. Again, my email is aa@mlgpro.com
Thank you. Thread is done and turning into a shithole fast because we have internet lawyers who don't know jack about copyright law.
Please update OP with how it all turned out when you've talked with Adam.
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Photographer just needed to be given credit and he most certainly should have taken it to MLG first, not Reddit or Team Liquid, as that's how professional photographers who have complaints do.
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