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On November 02 2012 19:42 YoucriedWolf wrote:Pasargadae:I am sure that many people here could recommend you great classics, maybe even myself included. But I think that the purpose of this community would be best served by me recommending you a rather hidden cultural gem by the title of "Kallocain" (author Karin Boye). Train of thought being that reading brave new world is usually preceded by reading 1984 and what is really interesting about Kallocain is that it is basically a swedish 1984 written eight years before 1984. Wiki states it's only 156 pages so not a big commitment either, well worth your time should you be able to aquire it. It also says that it has been translated to more than 10 languages so I will assume that english is one of them 
Thanks...I realized how much I had deviated from the thread's structure after my last post.
Would you recommend Kallocain over Brothers Karamazov (Dostoyevsky) or An American Tragedy (Dreiser)?
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![[image loading]](http://www.kurzweilai.net/images/auniversefromnothing.jpg)
Very interesting book
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Just started rereading the War of the Spider Queen series. Going to get into a campaign in the underdark in the near future and I need to get back into the element.
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On September 23 2012 12:14 Zozma wrote:I recently finished my re-read of the Wheel of Time books in preparation for AMoL next year (I actually liked the Robert Jordan ones. Am I alone?) Now I'm reading this: ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/FrankHerbert_Dune_1st.jpg) (with a different cover, obviously, which I couldn't find a picture of. It's a great book, though!)
Are you kidding? The Robert Jordan ones are much better, in my opinion.
Also, I own (and have read) Dune with that cover ^^ My dad bought it back when it came out. I read the first four in that series, I think. Maybe 5, was a while ago.
Right now I'm reading + Show Spoiler +
Just finished reading + Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b3/Songs_of_distant_earth.jpg) and ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e5/The-naked-sun-doubleday-cover.jpg/200px-The-naked-sun-doubleday-cover.jpg) and during October
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Currently reading this: ![[image loading]](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2Aj3wWyR4IU/T1Jod3wkBdI/AAAAAAAABro/vXi2lJnU3XY/s1600/Blossoms+and+Shadows.jpg)
Haven't gotten far yet, but so far it's been good. I recommend reading the other works of Lian Hearn, the books of the Otori Clan: ![[image loading]](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-D69XvwV7nPA/TjlXm4IwNJI/AAAAAAAAAa8/Jzw6QRqvxRs/s1600/35621284.jpg)
Awesome series.
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Finished
![[image loading]](http://www.cbc.ca/books/greatgatsby-cover.jpg) The Great Gatsby
Oh man what a read. Fitzgeralds ability to catch deep key emotional observations in seemingly mundane settings is really impressive to me. Does not aspire to too much with its sub 200 pages but Fitzgerald makes the uttermost of every page given to him.
Reading
![[image loading]](http://s.cdon.com/media-dynamic/images/product/00/12/25/30/39/3/chua-amy-battle-hymn-of-the-tiger-mother.jpg) Battle hymn of the tiger mother
As was recommended to me by our own MightyAtom in the TL knowhow section. Really liking it so far. I almost wish that I could have kids of my own just so I could torture them.
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On November 07 2012 01:10 YoucriedWolf wrote: Oh man what a read. Fitzgeralds ability to catch deep key emotional observations in seemingly mundane settings is really impressive to me. Does not aspire to too much with its sub 200 pages but Fitzgerald makes the uttermost of every page given to him.
Only capturing the American dream.
You know, no biggie.
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On November 06 2012 05:21 Pasargadae wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 19:42 YoucriedWolf wrote:Pasargadae:I am sure that many people here could recommend you great classics, maybe even myself included. But I think that the purpose of this community would be best served by me recommending you a rather hidden cultural gem by the title of "Kallocain" (author Karin Boye). Train of thought being that reading brave new world is usually preceded by reading 1984 and what is really interesting about Kallocain is that it is basically a swedish 1984 written eight years before 1984. Wiki states it's only 156 pages so not a big commitment either, well worth your time should you be able to aquire it. It also says that it has been translated to more than 10 languages so I will assume that english is one of them  Thanks...I realized how much I had deviated from the thread's structure after my last post. Would you recommend Kallocain over Brothers Karamazov (Dostoyevsky) or An American Tragedy (Dreiser)?
No I would not. But I do not believe that they cancel each other out either. Those are big works and you are likely to form a growing experience with these authors and having the pleasure of familiarizing yourself with more of their works at some point.
Kallocain is just in the "156 pages you'll never regret reading" category she is more known for her poetry anyhow and I've come to understand that Kallocain is her best work (even though I've never read any other of hers). You're not likely to get knocked out by any awsome new concept that this book presents because you've already gotten that from reading 1984. It's just a solid book with a nice piece of history attached to it, thats all.
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On November 07 2012 01:16 zalz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 01:10 YoucriedWolf wrote: Oh man what a read. Fitzgeralds ability to catch deep key emotional observations in seemingly mundane settings is really impressive to me. Does not aspire to too much with its sub 200 pages but Fitzgerald makes the uttermost of every page given to him.
Only capturing the American dream. You know, no biggie.
Hehe I half expected to get one of those. That's not actually what I meant. I meant that 200 pages is less likely to resonate with any unique reader because it leaves less room for him to feel that the book reflects his [imagined] personality or traits.
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Im reading The Three musketeer of Alexandre Dumas ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PrWbj.jpg)
and The Secret of the Federal Reserve of the USA
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Just finished (4th book of the DUNE series, great sci-fi):
![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/GodEmperorofDune.jpg/200px-GodEmperorofDune.jpg)
Now reading:
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(both in german though)
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http://www.amazon.com/Debunking-Economics-Revised-Expanded-Dethroned/dp/1848139926
the fundamental ideas have some involvement with self referential paradoxes, among which is the newcomb problem. deciders not thinking that their actions are endogenous within their own models, dynamic maths
when i was in undergrad at chicago this is like, what i felt man. the maths are so stupidly simplistic for the problems
reading this with excitement reserved for the most important ideas
edit: @guy above. dune yeaaaa good choice. i expect worship of goddess irulan
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Enders game series and The Foundation series. Finished up a re-read of Malazan books of the Fallen and will be heading to book depository to start plugging more gaps in my classic Sci-fi and Fantasy reading.
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On November 02 2012 01:02 Pasargadae wrote:![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/62/BraveNewWorld_FirstEdition.jpg/200px-BraveNewWorld_FirstEdition.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_PunlxVHoX4/UDHXuktLDeI/AAAAAAAAEzg/h6BpKRoBVco/s1600/29eb3_communist-manifesto-cover1.jpg) Just finished Huxley and am almost done with Marx and Engels. Anyone want to recommend anything? I prefer philosophy, antiquities, or just any old classic. (Going to assume most people know the general synopses of these books...if not I'll be happy to reply)
![[image loading]](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4195Sj6kbuL._SL500_SS500_.jpg) You can read this marvelous piece, i have only started reading it myself.
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On November 02 2012 01:02 Pasargadae wrote:![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/62/BraveNewWorld_FirstEdition.jpg/200px-BraveNewWorld_FirstEdition.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_PunlxVHoX4/UDHXuktLDeI/AAAAAAAAEzg/h6BpKRoBVco/s1600/29eb3_communist-manifesto-cover1.jpg) Just finished Huxley and am almost done with Marx and Engels. Anyone want to recommend anything? I prefer philosophy, antiquities, or just any old classic. (Going to assume most people know the general synopses of these books...if not I'll be happy to reply)
I posted this a few posts up, but I'll directly recommend it to you because it is based in a philosophical question. It's very heavy on the science aspect, but in my opinion that only adds value to the philosophy behind the question.
![[image loading]](http://www.paranormalpeopleonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/6a00d8341c562c53ef0168e4edebee970c-320wi.jpg) "A Universe from Nothing" by Lawrence Krauss
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On November 11 2012 04:21 Tewks44 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 01:02 Pasargadae wrote:![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/62/BraveNewWorld_FirstEdition.jpg/200px-BraveNewWorld_FirstEdition.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_PunlxVHoX4/UDHXuktLDeI/AAAAAAAAEzg/h6BpKRoBVco/s1600/29eb3_communist-manifesto-cover1.jpg) Just finished Huxley and am almost done with Marx and Engels. Anyone want to recommend anything? I prefer philosophy, antiquities, or just any old classic. (Going to assume most people know the general synopses of these books...if not I'll be happy to reply) I posted this a few posts up, but I'll directly recommend it to you because it is based in a philosophical question. It's very heavy on the science aspect, but in my opinion that only adds value to the philosophy behind the question. ![[image loading]](http://www.paranormalpeopleonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/6a00d8341c562c53ef0168e4edebee970c-320wi.jpg) "A Universe from Nothing" by Lawrence Krauss
Krauss and Dawkins..yum.
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i never thought too much of gatsby. it's trite and boring. the whole american dream thing is cultural trash. herp derp we want to be like long island snobs. nice story.
the great french literature deals with eternal themes, the american one deals with who's more popular with the girl in the upscale neighborhood.
/rant
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![[image loading]](http://blog.brandyourself.com/wp-content/uploads/4-hour-work_week.jpg)
As suggested by Day[9].
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On November 13 2012 02:19 Pasargadae wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2012 04:21 Tewks44 wrote:On November 02 2012 01:02 Pasargadae wrote:![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/62/BraveNewWorld_FirstEdition.jpg/200px-BraveNewWorld_FirstEdition.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_PunlxVHoX4/UDHXuktLDeI/AAAAAAAAEzg/h6BpKRoBVco/s1600/29eb3_communist-manifesto-cover1.jpg) Just finished Huxley and am almost done with Marx and Engels. Anyone want to recommend anything? I prefer philosophy, antiquities, or just any old classic. (Going to assume most people know the general synopses of these books...if not I'll be happy to reply) I posted this a few posts up, but I'll directly recommend it to you because it is based in a philosophical question. It's very heavy on the science aspect, but in my opinion that only adds value to the philosophy behind the question. ![[image loading]](http://www.paranormalpeopleonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/6a00d8341c562c53ef0168e4edebee970c-320wi.jpg) "A Universe from Nothing" by Lawrence Krauss Krauss and Dawkins..yum. Meh, in my eyes that book turned out to be more of an embarrassment to both of them than anything, particularly as a philosophy recommendation since they gravely misunderstand philosophy/don't actually address the philosophical question and then Krauss went on to disparage philosophy in a juvenile way when he couldn't handle valid criticism.
Anyway I've picked up Gravity's Rainbow by Pynchon, but it's pretty intimidating, this might be like a year long trek with asides to read other things in the middle.
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