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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 20:27:07
December 30 2011 20:24 GMT
#61
On December 31 2011 05:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
(thank you)

I feel like you're quoting Moneyball here.
In any case, I inquired to SK whether they'd widen their team and they said: "It has to make sense". The direction most foreign team organizations are going is mainly Koreans anyways. So, whether or not your rationale is the way to go, most are going for shortcuts anyways and what they sense would get their organization on the mainstage and exposure. You can scout for up and coming talent or you can pave a big money road and just buy or "partner" up with Korean teams/players.


I have never seen Moneyball.

I also contacted SK a long time ago about the same thing and they informed me "they don't pay for talent scouting" because "We have people that do that for free". Seems to have worked out well for them.........

Also there is A LOT of up and coming talent even in the Korean scene, but unless a person knows how to spot it correct they won't notice until it's too late.

There is a reason every major sport ever has dedicated talent scouts, it's not like something that has never happened before. Teams that continue to ignore that aspect are the ones that will be relegated to positions like SK.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
RuzaSK
Profile Joined October 2011
Slovakia117 Posts
December 30 2011 20:28 GMT
#62
sad news hope babyknight gets picked up by a good team
It's simple, if it jiggles, it's fat. ~ Arnold Schwarzenegger
eqez
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden837 Posts
December 30 2011 20:28 GMT
#63
On December 31 2011 04:56 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 04:54 Diamond wrote:
This is why big teams with good budgets who know nothing about SC2 need to actually hire a real talent scout full time instead of just relying on "free advice".


This. I feel like LG suffered similar issues, nice budget, okay team. No management.


Who are LG? :o
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 30 2011 20:37 GMT
#64
Lazarus Gaming
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13412 Posts
December 30 2011 20:51 GMT
#65
On December 31 2011 05:37 Torte de Lini wrote:
Lazarus Gaming


I thought they shut down because the kid with the money who owned the team basically got bored and decided to disband the team and go back to software development (or whatever it was he did to make money)
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
December 30 2011 20:53 GMT
#66
On December 31 2011 05:51 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 05:37 Torte de Lini wrote:
Lazarus Gaming


I thought they shut down because the kid with the money who owned the team basically got bored and decided to disband the team and go back to software development (or whatever it was he did to make money)


Well that was one reason the second one was the team was not really going anywhere or winning anything. There was no ROI, and at the point LG was just a pure money dump. If the team had been fincially viable I bet he might have got a dedicated manager for it.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
December 30 2011 21:05 GMT
#67
I remember them signing some players but I can't remember any of those players doing much of anything and I don't think I saw them in any team tournaments. This really isn't that surprising, but it sucks for all the people who were on their team.
marxgarza
Profile Joined January 2011
United States373 Posts
December 30 2011 21:19 GMT
#68
I never heard of this time but it is still sad to see teams disband.
Silence is golden, duct tape is silver
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
December 30 2011 21:26 GMT
#69
I feel like NaVi waited too long to get into SC2. All the good pros are spoken for if they are expecting immediate results.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
December 30 2011 21:36 GMT
#70
so long as NaVi has dendi, I'll be a fan. Not every team needs to be involved in SC2, sucks because it grows this game but NaVi are killers in eSports so I'm fine with them staying where they are.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
December 30 2011 21:39 GMT
#71
Never heard of this team, but any time a team disbands it's a bummer
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
December 30 2011 21:48 GMT
#72
o_o I don't even know who/what this team is... ._.
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
morlakaix
Profile Joined February 2011
United States860 Posts
December 30 2011 22:06 GMT
#73
I hope 13abyknight goes back to Dota! that would be a comeback of the ages!
Dimon87
Profile Joined January 2011
218 Posts
December 30 2011 22:11 GMT
#74
They had a sc2 team? oh, too bad i guess.
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 30 2011 22:18 GMT
#75
Didnt reallyhave high hopes for them after this thread. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=268614 good luck in the future, hope they get their act together and take sc2 seriously if they decide to reenter the scene.
Kwanny
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany222 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 22:20:32
December 30 2011 22:19 GMT
#76
too many teams just don't hire decent management and pay them well, because they try to devote their ressources to their players. I can't say that I am particularly sad when a team disbands (I wouldn't say disband for NaVi, but rather withdraw), because I feel that it's the same for a company. If a company doesn't run well, and you don't have a plan how to fix that, you might aswell let it go bankrupt.


On December 31 2011 07:18 Snorkle wrote:
Didnt reallyhave high hopes for them after this thread. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=268614 good luck in the future, hope they get their act together and take sc2 seriously if they decide to reenter the scene.


And yeah, I totally had the same feeling. I felt like that there was a major lack of motivation.
Glon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States569 Posts
December 31 2011 01:17 GMT
#77
I think your problem was with recruitment -- you didn't get the right players or take enough time to allow yourself to get the right players.


Look forward to your reentry into SC2
@QuanticGlon https://twitter.com/QuanticGlon
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
December 31 2011 01:24 GMT
#78
I guess that they will really put some serious money up front next year, grabbing some top notch players.
I would kill to see NaVi MMA! Yeah, I know its not gonna happen.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
morlakaix
Profile Joined February 2011
United States860 Posts
December 31 2011 23:23 GMT
#79
On December 31 2011 01:28 The_13abyKnight wrote:
I'm not going back to DotA 2, I'm currently looking for a good team to join. I am practicing very hard now, quit school 1 month ago and I believe 2012 will be a good year for me, in SC2.



That's a little sad to hear ):, but good luck in SC2, been a big fan of you for a long time! :D



:D
GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
January 01 2012 16:02 GMT
#80
I smell an Empire raid this fall, hopefully it happens before the end of the world.
The doctors gave me 9 months to live, ]BIG[ gave me a life time.
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